TPM Mace Windu vs ROTS Obi-wan Kenobi

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  • EU/Legends and New Canon feats allowed
  • Distance 20 yards.
  • Standards Morals
  • All out (force and sabers)
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Mace Windu.

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#3  Edited By Mije_101

Windu in a good fight.

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Considering Mace's style focuses on aggressive hits and deflecting the opponents own dark side, I don't think it can do well against the energy conservative and calm style of Obi Wan. But other than that I have no idea.

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I don't really know what calibre of duelist Windu was by TPM, other than that he held off a bloodlusted yet highly inexperienced version of Quinlan Vos, and IIRC it was around this time he sparred evenly with Saesee Tiin, who is featless outside of that encounter.

Although I believe some of Windu's "second only to Yoda, equal to Dooku" quotes apply to his pre-TPM self, so that should reasonably put him above Kenobi. It's likely to be a hard, prolonged fight, though.

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I don't really know what calibre of duelist Windu was by TPM, other than that he held off a bloodlusted yet highly inexperienced version of Quinlan Vos, and IIRC it was around this time he sparred evenly with Saesee Tiin, who is featless outside of that encounter.

Although I believe some of Windu's "second only to Yoda, equal to Dooku" quotes apply to his pre-TPM self, so that should reasonably put him above Kenobi. It's likely to be a hard, prolonged fight, though.

I believe that quote was at the time of AotC. And to THB, Kenobi's ROTS incarnation isn't that far behind Windu's ROTS incarnation in speed, power or skill. I don't see how being equal or just behind (according to Power of the Jedi Windu has lost to Dooku) to pre-TPM Dooku (who's far from his prime btw) puts him objectively ahead of Obi-wan in regards to skill or power. Especially not when you compare TPM Mace's and Obi-wan feats.

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I believe that quote was at the time of AotC.

I'm sure there was another which stated that within the Jedi Order, only Dooku and Yoda could match Windu and visa versa. Referring to when Dooku was still with the Jedi, which would be TPM and prior.

And to THB, Kenobi's ROTS incarnation isn't that far behind Windu's ROTS incarnation in speed, power or skill. I don't see how being equal or just behind (according to Power of the Jedi Windu has lost to Dooku) to pre-TPM Dooku (who's far from his prime btw) puts him objectively ahead of Obi-wan in regards to skill or power. Especially not when you compare TPM Mace's and Obi-wan feats.

It's not, I agree.

It doesn't necessarily put him ahead objectively, but in my mind it could. I personally don't think there's enough detail on how skilled TPM Dooku and Windu are to cast judgement.

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Hmm..I'd still go Mace.

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Mace will break Kenobi's force shield and shove him around a rag doll.

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Obi-Wan. I doubt that Windu TPM was => ROTS Windu. Unless he magically got weaker in these 13 years.

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Mace.

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I don't really know what calibre of duelist Windu was by TPM, other than that he held off a bloodlusted yet highly inexperienced version of Quinlan Vos, and IIRC it was around this time he sparred evenly with Saesee Tiin, who is featless outside of that encounter.

Although I believe some of Windu's "second only to Yoda, equal to Dooku" quotes apply to his pre-TPM self, so that should reasonably put him above Kenobi. It's likely to be a hard, prolonged fight, though.

lol

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Mace.

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Windu

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Mace.

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Windu.

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Probably Obi-Wan because there's an apparent dispaity between TPM Mace and ROTS Mace.

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#22  Edited By Zapan871

Kenobi, probably. Mace is vastly pre prime. And that image of Mace is lolworthy.

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You can make a legitimate case either way, though I'd somewhat lean Obi.

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Kenobi yea, Mace is likely vastly pre-prime as of tpm

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Eh, this is actually pretty tough. It really depends on how much stronger we think Mace is in ROTS as opposed to TPM.

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This is pretty good. I'd go Mace, but I could be convinced otherwise.

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Either way, really. It's a toss up.

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Hard to say. Depends on how much weaker TPM Mace is then RoTS Mace. Kenobi for now.

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This makes me so happy.

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This could go either way, but I think Mace edges it out.

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Kenobi.

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Either way.

Hold a gun to my head, I say Mace.

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An argument can be made for either.