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#1 Posted by jay_z94 (697 posts) - - Show Bio

Which characters would be in the top 5 strategists. However cunning and wit come into play, not just pure intelligence or knowledge.

i say:
1. batman
2. Lex luthor
3. joker
4. Deathstroke
5. Dr doom

#2 Edited by AllStarSuperman (28285 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex Luther

Joker

Myx

Loki

#3 Posted by Shawnbaby (11017 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a Battle

#4 Posted by Jokergeist (4715 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker deserves top spot.

#5 Edited by jay_z94 (697 posts) - - Show Bio

batman and joker are both cunning in different ways, which makes their "relationship" so interesting

#6 Posted by russellmania77 (16858 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#7 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (4543 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Lex Luthor
  2. Dr. Doom
  3. Batman
  4. The Punisher
  5. Joker

and not a battle

#8 Edited by Strider92 (18044 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it is a fallacy that John Constantine hasn't been mentioned. That guy defines cunning in every sense of the word. He's definitely the top of my list for this category.

#9 Posted by gav (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

How has Thanos not been mentioned?

#10 Posted by TDK_1997 (15977 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Batman
  2. Dr. Doom
  3. Lex Luthor
  4. John Constantine
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#11 Edited by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (12480 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen.

#12 Posted by Dextersinister (7741 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:
  1. Batman
  2. Dr. Doom
  3. Lex Luthor
  4. John Constantine

Add Jack Donaghy

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#13 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (33163 posts) - - Show Bio

No one has mentioned Emperor Palpatine? There is nothing sweeter then reading/watching the 'Grand Plan' take place.

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#14 Edited by Moonman78 (1736 posts) - - Show Bio

1.thanos

2.dr doom

3.black Adam

4. Deathstroke

5.loki

#15 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (12480 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen has the ultimate plans/trolling.

#16 Posted by Chaos Prime (11585 posts) - - Show Bio

1 Dr Doom

2 Thanos

3 Lex Luther

4 Darkseid

5 Batman

#17 Posted by capall2 (1454 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

Dr Doom

Loki

Darkseid

Lex luthor

Joker gets honorable mention due to his sick a$$ mind...lol...

#19 Edited by XxGin (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

Constantine.. not even a competition

#20 Posted by ComicStooge (18023 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxgin said:

Constantine.. not even a competition

This.

#21 Posted by gav (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos by a mile. Who else would figure out a way, successfully, to take on the entire universe from Living Tribunal on down?

#22 Posted by dondave (40129 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

John Constantine

Dr Doom

Lex Luthor

Desaad

#23 Edited by GhostRavage (10559 posts) - - Show Bio

Can anybody define cunning? Because if it is what i think it is... Then Doom and Thanos have the top positions.

#24 Edited by Royal_Rumble_Man (525 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Gravel
  • Grifter
  • Midnighter
  • Classic Strange

#25 Edited by steelhound56 (1076 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxgin said:

Constantine.. not even a competition

Seconded. John Constantine should top this list pretty easily.

2. Thanos

3. Lex Luthor

4. Dr. Doom

5. Loki

#26 Edited by thebatman98 (73 posts) - - Show Bio

1.John Constantine

2.Lex Luthor

3.Darkseid

4.Doctor Doom

5.Loki

#27 Posted by pooty (13728 posts) - - Show Bio

@gav said:

How has Thanos not been mentioned?

QFT

No one has mentioned Emperor Palpatine? There is nothing sweeter then reading/watching the 'Grand Plan' take place.

People sleep on Palpatine. he had what most of these others lack..... patience and wasn't arrogant.

#28 Posted by CrouchingTiger (148 posts) - - Show Bio

In no particular order..

Villians-

Deathstroke, thanos, Loki, luthor, Dr.doom

Good guys-

Bats, spidey, cap, stark, ...damian wayne?

#29 Edited by GhettoSwag (183 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki

odin

Doc doom

thanos

squirell girl

#30 Posted by BigCimmerian (10098 posts) - - Show Bio

1. John Constantine

2. Batman

3. Iron Man

4. Lex Luthor

5. Doctor Doom

#31 Posted by beatboks1 (8020 posts) - - Show Bio

overall

1. Thanos / Constantine

3. Dr Doom / Ultra Humanite

5. Reed / Stark / Bat's / T'Challa / Querl /Midnighter

11. Vril Dox / Kang / Loki

14. Slade (Deathstroke) / Luthor / Niles Caulder ( Doom Patrol - Chief)

#32 Posted by Herald417 (120 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@gav said:

How has Thanos not been mentioned?

QFT

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

No one has mentioned Emperor Palpatine? There is nothing sweeter then reading/watching the 'Grand Plan' take place.

People sleep on Palpatine. he had what most of these others lack..... patience and wasn't arrogant.

Palpatine easily tops the list he manipulated/outsmarted literally everyone for 20 years. Followed by Loki, doom, Batman, Thanos

#33 Edited by The_Red_Viper (5383 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Ozymandias.

2. Batman/Doctor Doom.

3. Batman/Doctor Doom.

4. Lex Luthor/Black Panther.

5. Lex Luthor/Black Panther.

Edit after 1 year and 10 days now that I'm a little smarter:

1. Constantine

2. Bats

3. Tyrion Lannister

4 and below-don't really know. Or care.

#34 Posted by pooty (13728 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@gav said:

How has Thanos not been mentioned?

QFT

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

No one has mentioned Emperor Palpatine? There is nothing sweeter then reading/watching the 'Grand Plan' take place.

People sleep on Palpatine. he had what most of these others lack..... patience and wasn't arrogant.

Palpatine easily tops the list he manipulated/outsmarted literally everyone for 20 years. Followed by Loki, doom, Batman, Thanos

Right. Palpatine held onto power longer then any of these other people.

#35 Edited by DraZah (58 posts) - - Show Bio

sidious.

FTW

#36 Posted by Anal_Vomit (799 posts) - - Show Bio

Morrigan Aensland

#37 Edited by robertloucksjr (1927 posts) - - Show Bio

Offbeat list -

MODOK

Marvel Athena

Amodeus Cho

Apocalypse

Mephisto

#38 Edited by Mezmero (999 posts) - - Show Bio

Red Skull, Batman, Norman Osborn, Dr. Doom, Joseph Joestar. No particular order.

#39 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (15465 posts) - - Show Bio

Bruce Banner- He easily beat a prepped Doom and even made him a retard while doing it.

#40 Posted by MonsterStomp (25434 posts) - - Show Bio

Bruce Banner- He easily beat a prepped Doom and even made him a retard while doing it.

Cunning and intelligence are very different.

1. John Constantine

2. Lex Luthor

3. Joker

4. Lucifer Morningstar

5. Batman

I can't think of any Marvel characters that best them.

#41 Edited by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (15465 posts) - - Show Bio

@thatguywithheadphones said:

Bruce Banner- He easily beat a prepped Doom and even made him a retard while doing it.

Cunning and intelligence are very different.

1. John Constantine

2. Lex Luthor

3. Joker

4. Lucifer Morningstar

5. Batman

I can't think of any Marvel characters that best them.

Bruce was using both.

#42 Edited by theONEtaichou (1610 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen-taichou

#43 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (6247 posts) - - Show Bio

Palpatine, Thanos, Doom, Loki Constantine.

#44 Edited by Testament (1075 posts) - - Show Bio

#45 Posted by kidman560 (7635 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos #1 easily

John Connn

Loki

Fantomex

idk... probably Lex

#46 Posted by Killerwasp (10978 posts) - - Show Bio
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#47 Posted by DoDirty (1402 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Joker

2. Loki

3. Dr. Doom

4. Thanos

5. Ultron

#48 Edited by darkseid1006 (3473 posts) - - Show Bio

John Constantine

Lucifer Morningstar

Tao (Wildstorm)

Lex Luthor

Dr Doom

#49 Posted by GraniteSoldier (11541 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man

Batman

Loki

Kraven

Thanos

#50 Posted by nickzambuto (19384 posts) - - Show Bio

Revolver Ocelot.