Tombstone vs Luke Cage

"Nobody said:

"Danko said:

"True, But DareDevil did knock him out with a sledge hammer. And that is in contrast with the picture you showed with him jumping out a building unharmed. That was my whole point. Not to say Tombstone will lose, but i'm not quite sure those pictures you showed are a accurate showing of his powers."

That or the dumbed him down to DD's level for that comic.
"

DD could beat Tombstone...any time."

"Vance Astro said:

"Nobody said:

"Danko said:

"True, But DareDevil did knock him out with a sledge hammer. And that is in contrast with the picture you showed with him jumping out a building unharmed. That was my whole point. Not to say Tombstone will lose, but i'm not quite sure those pictures you showed are a accurate showing of his powers."

That or the dumbed him down to DD's level for that comic.
"

DD could beat Tombstone...any time."

I don't think DD could hurt Tombstone with normal equipment.
"

"Nobody said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Nobody said:

"Danko said:

"True, But DareDevil did knock him out with a sledge hammer. And that is in contrast with the picture you showed with him jumping out a building unharmed. That was my whole point. Not to say Tombstone will lose, but i'm not quite sure those pictures you showed are a accurate showing of his powers."

That or the dumbed him down to DD's level for that comic.
"

DD could beat Tombstone...any time."

I don't think DD could hurt Tombstone with normal equipment.
"

Yet...you just seen him doing it...."

"Nobody said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Nobody said:

"Danko said:

"True, But DareDevil did knock him out with a sledge hammer. And that is in contrast with the picture you showed with him jumping out a building unharmed. That was my whole point. Not to say Tombstone will lose, but i'm not quite sure those pictures you showed are a accurate showing of his powers."

That or the dumbed him down to DD's level for that comic.
"

DD could beat Tombstone...any time."

I don't think DD could hurt Tombstone with normal equipment.
"

Yet...you just seen him doing it...."

They already fought Cage won

Titanium/Cage beats Stone/Tombstone

Cage

Without Superhuman Speed or Reflexes you have to be at least a well trained fighter....and Tombstone is not.

"Nobody said:

"Danko said:

"True, But DareDevil did knock him out with a sledge hammer. And that is in contrast with the picture you showed with him jumping out a building unharmed. That was my whole point. Not to say Tombstone will lose, but i'm not quite sure those pictures you showed are a accurate showing of his powers."

That or the dumbed him down to DD's level for that comic.
"

DD could beat Tombstone...any time."

Cage.

" Cage. "

I hope Tombstone has insurance

" @Vance Astro said:

" Cage. "

Why the bump? "

I'm going to go with Tombstone still.

" My vote is with Cage.  Yes, Tombstone is more durable, but Cage has the strength to inflict damage on him.  Spider-Man, at 10 tons, was able to KO Tombstone with a full forced punch (with his hand surrounded by webbing).  I'd imagine that Cage really unleashing (he's at 25 tons now, yes?) would be able to KO the albino. "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" My vote is with Cage.  Yes, Tombstone is more durable, but Cage has the strength to inflict damage on him.  Spider-Man, at 10 tons, was able to KO Tombstone with a full forced punch (with his hand surrounded by webbing).  I'd imagine that Cage really unleashing (he's at 25 tons now, yes?) would be able to KO the albino. "

Agreed. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" My vote is with Cage.  Yes, Tombstone is more durable, but Cage has the strength to inflict damage on him.  Spider-Man, at 10 tons, was able to KO Tombstone with a full forced punch (with his hand surrounded by webbing).  I'd imagine that Cage really unleashing (he's at 25 tons now, yes?) would be able to KO the albino. "

Agreed. "

Well, I suppose the debate is over then if Morph agrees =) "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" My vote is with Cage.  Yes, Tombstone is more durable, but Cage has the strength to inflict damage on him.  Spider-Man, at 10 tons, was able to KO Tombstone with a full forced punch (with his hand surrounded by webbing).  I'd imagine that Cage really unleashing (he's at 25 tons now, yes?) would be able to KO the albino. "

Agreed. "

Well, I suppose the debate is over then if Morph agrees =) "

You like Tombstone more than I do, so since even you comply, and I happen to agree with everything you stated, no reason to push it further. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" My vote is with Cage.  Yes, Tombstone is more durable, but Cage has the strength to inflict damage on him.  Spider-Man, at 10 tons, was able to KO Tombstone with a full forced punch (with his hand surrounded by webbing).  I'd imagine that Cage really unleashing (he's at 25 tons now, yes?) would be able to KO the albino. "

Agreed. "

Well, I suppose the debate is over then if Morph agrees =) "

You like Tombstone more than I do, so since even you comply, and I happen to agree with everything you stated, no reason to push it further. "

Agreed, and honestly, I can't even explain why I like Tombstone.  He's rather stupid and rude...I suppose I enjoyed him when I was younger based on his appearance and it just stuck (sort of like Gambit.......) "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" My vote is with Cage.  Yes, Tombstone is more durable, but Cage has the strength to inflict damage on him.  Spider-Man, at 10 tons, was able to KO Tombstone with a full forced punch (with his hand surrounded by webbing).  I'd imagine that Cage really unleashing (he's at 25 tons now, yes?) would be able to KO the albino. "

Agreed. "

Well, I suppose the debate is over then if Morph agrees =) "

You like Tombstone more than I do, so since even you comply, and I happen to agree with everything you stated, no reason to push it further. "

Agreed, and honestly, I can't even explain why I like Tombstone.  He's rather stupid and rude...I suppose I enjoyed him when I was younger based on his appearance and it just stuck (sort of like Gambit.......) "

Remy is actually a character I enjoed reading, back when I still followed X books. "

Well knowing Tombstone, he'll probably cheat his way out of winning this battle. He probably use his cellphone to call his homies to bombard on Luke Cage with endless supply of grenades, dynamites or whatetever explosives they have in their arsenal. Of course, Luke is durable enough to withstand such punishment right? If so, it'll probably tire him after that assualt and maybe Tombs might go in for the kill. . okay maybe beating to KO or something.. . ."if you got it, flont it.."

" Yeah, when the whole Rogue scenario wasn't over played...Now, Gambit just seems to exist as a plot device for her. "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" Yeah, when the whole Rogue scenario wasn't over played...Now, Gambit just seems to exist as a plot device for her. "

I wouldn't know, I haven't read the character for ages. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" Yeah, when the whole Rogue scenario wasn't over played...Now, Gambit just seems to exist as a plot device for her. "

I wouldn't know, I haven't read the character for ages. "

Well, basically every time he pops up...Its because he's doing something for Rogue (trying to protect her, save her, be with her, etc) "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" Yeah, when the whole Rogue scenario wasn't over played...Now, Gambit just seems to exist as a plot device for her. "

I wouldn't know, I haven't read the character for ages. "

Well, basically every time he pops up...Its because he's doing something for Rogue (trying to protect her, save her, be with her, etc) "

So he has basically been turned to a guest start character? Not good. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" Yeah, when the whole Rogue scenario wasn't over played...Now, Gambit just seems to exist as a plot device for her. "

I wouldn't know, I haven't read the character for ages. "

Well, basically every time he pops up...Its because he's doing something for Rogue (trying to protect her, save her, be with her, etc) "

So he has basically been turned to a guest start character? Not good. "

A recently issue of Legacy boasted about how he'll go off on a new journey, and the cover was even just him....So, naturally I bought it. What happened? Gambit got into an argument with Cyclops about Rogue, which was about 4 panels IIRC and walked away.......Yup, thats it. "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

" Yeah, when the whole Rogue scenario wasn't over played...Now, Gambit just seems to exist as a plot device for her. "

I wouldn't know, I haven't read the character for ages. "

Well, basically every time he pops up...Its because he's doing something for Rogue (trying to protect her, save her, be with her, etc) "

So he has basically been turned to a guest start character? Not good. "

A recently issue of Legacy boasted about how he'll go off on a new journey, and the cover was even just him....So, naturally I bought it. What happened? Gambit got into an argument with Cyclops about Rogue, which was about 4 panels IIRC and walked away.......Yup, thats it. "

I thought he featured prominently in a recent arc in Legacy? Four panels don't fit the bill. "

"
He was in it....Side by side with Rogue.  "

" @k4tzm4n said:

"
He was in it....Side by side with Rogue.  "

I thought that goes without saying. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @k4tzm4n said:

"
He was in it....Side by side with Rogue.  "

I thought that goes without saying. "

Exactly my point.  But he was around frequently before that as well, but only because he was helping professor X (and in turn, led him to Rogue) "

Tombstone beats Cage in a great fight
 
 
the deciding factor
Cage's internal organs damage, you can pound on his skin he feels nothing but his kidney's do feel it. In fact there are a few times Cage collapsed due to internal damage
 
 
Tombstone has insane speed, Daredevil giving him any kind of trouble is PIS
he's a bullet timer
he has blitzed people like Goblin and Spider-Man
Cage is outclassed on speed

Cage wins easily.Tombstone isn't half the fight Cage is and Cage definitely has the strength to hurt him.

" Cage wins easily.Tombstone isn't half the fight Cage is and Cage definitely has the strength to hurt him. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" Cage wins easily.Tombstone isn't half the fight Cage is and Cage definitely has the strength to hurt him. "

stop assuming things.you can't asume cage is a better fighter because many people say so.from what i've seen from comics luke is 10 times less the fighter tombstone is. luke got beaten by scorpion who before becoming scorpion has never thrown a punch in his life.that should explain cage's fighting skill.scorpion is very strong, fast and durable but he's not a good fighter. now here are some other factors why i go for tombstone: he beat daredevil once effortesly.the second fight was piss since spiderman couldn't knock him out who's a 20 tonner why would daredevil with a sledgehammer.also octopus had problem knocking him out with his tentacleshe is constantly giving trouble to a man that is around cage's lvl of strength also more inteligent, waaaaay more faster than cage(and i would say more skilled but you'd probably say not)-spiderman  he outclasses cage in speed big timehe does not seem to take internal damage.cage does. his skin may not be as durable as cage's but from the screens i saw he seems to be able to take waaaay more damage then cage can.  by the way can someone post a scan that would proove that cage is at least near 25 class tonner?because i've never seen him prooving that "

" Luke Cage curbstomp "

" @Matezoide said:

" Luke Cage curbstomp "

this is not a who loses match "

" @Matezoide said:

" Luke Cage curbstomp "

this is not a who loses match "

" @pulamea said:

" @Matezoide said:

" Luke Cage curbstomp "

this is not a who loses match "

Luke Cage = several times stronger than Tombstone and several times more durable "

".and please stop saying he's stronger post a scan so i can see how strong cage is. "

" @Vance Astro: why is so ridiculous that tombstone got those hits off an extremely dazed spiderman? "

" @Matezoide said:

" @pulamea said:

" @Matezoide said:

" Luke Cage curbstomp "

this is not a who loses match "

Luke Cage = several times stronger than Tombstone and several times more durable "

he's not more durable...his skin is durable he can take internal organs damage...and please stop saying he's stronger post a scan so i can see how strong cage is. "

then u would consider steve rogers tagging spidey  in civil war plot device also i assume.

" then u would consider steve rogers tagging spidey  in civil war plot device also i assume. "

" @oiHooliganismoi said:

" then u would consider steve rogers tagging spidey  in civil war plot device also i assume. "

I don't consider it a plot device.It was.Spider-Man held back on Captain America. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @oiHooliganismoi said:

" then u would consider steve rogers tagging spidey  in civil war plot device also i assume. "

I don't consider it a plot device.It was.Spider-Man held back on Captain America. "

*high fives Vance* "