Tombstone Vs. Emma Frost

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#1  Edited By mavfan626
Emma Frost (Diamond form) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Vs.


 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tombstone 
 

Rules.


Emma stays in her diamond form.
Emma Frost is Bloodlusted.  
Morals on for Tombstone.
Tombstone knows she Bloodlusted.  
Win via standard methods.
       
Location
Location

Emma start at the blue X 
Tombstone start at the red X 
 

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Tombstone.  In her dimaond form, Emma can dish out about 2 ton strength.  It requires a minimum of 10 to really harm Tombstone. Tombstone is also stronger (6 tons), faster, and more brutal in combat.  Despite Emma being bloodlusted, there honestly isn't much she can do here.  This victory likely comes down to Tombstone throwing her off the bridge (for a BFR), since his 6 ton strength might not be enough to KO her.
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Emma Frost is Class 25 ton? Wowza!
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#4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
According to her handbook entry... Which is beyond stupid, since she's done nothing to demonstrate that level of strength. :X
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@k4tzm4n:
Well I remember that one time.....wait no I don't.
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#6  Edited By texasdeathmatch

Imagine what kind of noises they'd make if they boned.

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@texasdeathmatch said:
"Imagine what kind of noises they'd make if they boned. "

That's a better idea for a debate. Could Emma make Tombstone stop whispering?
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#8  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Jake Fury: haha wait, Tombstone whispers? I was thinking moreso of the sound of rock grinding against diamond.
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#9  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch:
LOL.  But yeah, Tombstone's font is always giving the impression he's whispering.  Could be because of his mutation.
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#10  Edited By miki

Emma Frost!

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#11  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@k4tzm4n said:
" @texasdeathmatch: LOL.  But yeah, Tombstone's font is always giving the impression he's whispering.  Could be because of his mutation. "
Ah, he didn't seem to whisper in the cartoon.
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#12  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@texasdeathmatch:
Tombstone is also a bamf in Spectacular Spider-Man 
  
  
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#13  Edited By Final Arrow
@k4tzm4n said:
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I stand corrected. I was looking at an old bio.  The more recent one states she can lift over 25 tons.  Because of this, I change my vote to Emma.   Good debate, k4tz!  You too, buddy. "
Say what... 0_O 
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#14  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Final Arrow:
I could have easily edited my first post, but then people would be unaware I made a mistake.  I'm more than okay with showing I was wrong.  The last remark, well, that was just because I have an offbeat sense of humor :X
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#15  Edited By Final Arrow
@k4tzm4n: I was more saying what at the 25 tons.... She has never done anything that would even suggest that. 25 tons I can't even think of where they got that!!
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#16  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Final Arrow:
Oh, in that case we're in complete agreement.  The best "strength feat" I've seen from her is damaging a wall by punching it. 
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I just can't take Tombstone seriously after seeing him get taken down by Joe Robertson.

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#18  Edited By Final Arrow
@k4tzm4n: Going by what I know and Marvel.com im keeping her at a 2 ton in Diamond form. Hell if we go by her "power card" she apparently has super speed and has the same fighting skills as Steve Rogers 0_o and that's "official" ratings 
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#19  Edited By nikbackm
@k4tzm4n said:
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I stand corrected. I was looking at an old bio.  The more recent one states she can lift over 25 tons.  Because of this, I change my vote to Emma.   Good debate, k4tz!  You too, buddy. "
 
Which handbook is that? 
 
The most recent handbook entry I have (this year's Women of Marvel handbook) still states 2 tons. As did the one before it (OHOTMU 2008 edition).
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#20  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@The Mjolnir Wielder:
Not even after the scans I've presented of him versus Spider-Man? The one where he tackles him out of the skyscraper, as well as shrugs off being in an exploding building?  I understand characters can have a humiliating loss at times, but that shouldn't counter-act their other feats.
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#21  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Final Arrow: 
I never trust Marvel.com.  I was going by the handbook entry, but thankfully nikbackm has corrected this. 
 
@nikbackm:

It was the 2004 X-Men handbook entry.  I pleased to hear the more recent entries corrected her strength.  My original analysis stands, then.  Thank you for that and I'll delete my follow up post to avoid further confusion on the matter. 
 
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@k4tzm4n said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder:
Not even after the scans I've presented of him versus Spider-Man? The one where he tackles him out of the skyscraper, as well as shrugs off being in an exploding building?  I understand characters can have a humiliating loss at times, but that shouldn't counter-act their other feats. "
I wasn't being serious, but I still don't see how a street-leveler can take on an omega-level mutant.
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#23  Edited By Final Arrow
@k4tzm4n: I don't trust them, they stole my sandwich once.
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#24  Edited By Final Arrow
@The Mjolnir Wielder: While in Diamond form Emma is unable to use her mental powers, she is pretty much unbreakable a part from a small flaw!! but the rest of her powers are mute. The OP says she is in Diamond form which means thats the form we use for this battle.
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#25  Edited By spidey 15
@Final Arrow said:
" @k4tzm4n: I don't trust them, they stole my sandwich once. "
LOL
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#26  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@The Mjolnir Wielder: 
Oh, alright. But yeah, as Final Arrow pointed out, Frost is limited to her physical abilities here (since she's unable to use TP while in diamond form).  With telepathy, she naturally stomps in less than a heartbeat.  But, that isn't the case here. 
 
@Final Arrow:

Those bastards! What kind of sandwich!??!?! But seriously, just check Marvel.com's entry for Deadpool.  He's a 6 in intellegence, a 7 for speed and fighting skill LOL
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@Final Arrow said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder: While in Diamond form Emma is unable to use her mental powers, she is pretty much unbreakable a part from a small flaw!! but the rest of her powers are mute. The OP says she is in Diamond form which means thats the form we use for this battle. "
I usually don't read the OP unless 2 or more of the combatants are street-levelers, that's my mistake.
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The Marvel wikia page for Emma is actually pretty accurate. 
 
Human Form:       
Intelligence-4 
Strength-2 (Diamond Form-4)
Speed-2 
Durability-1 (Diamond Form-5) 
Energy Projection-5 (Diamond Form-1)
Fighting Skills-3 
 
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#29  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
Check Deadpool's ;)
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#31  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
Noooo, silly. You're using Marvel Comics Database, not marvel.com  
 
I'm pointing out how flawed the bios on Marvel.com are.  Marvel Comics Database is pretty accurate (most of the time).
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@k4tzm4n:
Bah! That's the internet version of the Outhouse Daily. LMAO
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@k4tzm4n said:
"@Jake Fury:
Noooo, silly. You're using Marvel Comics Database, not marvel.com  
 
I'm pointing out how flawed the bios on Marvel.com are.  Marvel Comics Database is pretty accurate (most of the time). "

Good grief. I see what you mean. I didn't even realize they had bios on marvel.com.
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#34  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
LOL
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#35  Edited By Magian

What was the greatest strength feat that she ever had in her diamond form?

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@ComicMan24:
She's managed to hold up her own ego all these years.
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#37  Edited By Final Arrow
@Jake Fury said:
" @ComicMan24: She's managed to hold up her own ego all these years. "
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#38  Edited By mavfan626
@Jake Fury said:
"@ComicMan24: She's managed to hold up her own ego all these years. "

Zing!