toad sage naruto vs nine tailed fox naruto

" @OblivionKnight said:

"I guess Sage. kinda more versatility(as in NAruto may still use jutsu). But the feats of sage mode are kind of greater. Sage Mode was handling Pein while 6-tails was actually having problems with Pein. It's more than likely because Naruto was able to fight rationally rather than as a berserker. But nie-tailed naruto has such destructive power. If sage mode NAruto's Rasen shuuriken can cut the fox on a cellular level, than he can take it(and his frog taijustu will help so he doesnt have to touch the fox's skin.) If he can't, he'll eventually become tired and wont be able to last long, so the fox will then destroy him. That's my take on this. "

 pretty much all of this
 

 
@Hellos:
i didnt even waste time reading what you had to say. i'm not going to spend all day arguing with you again. I stated 9 tails would win against sage mode. And i stated that sage mode would beat 1 tails. End of dicussion. You want to agrue with someone over stupid pity stuff, find someone else.

"

" @OblivionKnight:   9 tailed fox>sage mode  1 tailed naruto>sage mode naruto "

" @FLCL1 said:

" @OblivionKnight:   9 tailed fox>sage mode  1 tailed naruto>sage mode naruto "

i don't want to argue but i don't see any reason why sage mode couldn't soundly beat 1 tail naruto. "

" @jacobyLIVE: do you have any proof 1 tails cant beat sage mode? "

" @OblivionKnight:   9 tailed fox>sage mode  1 tailed naruto>sage mode naruto "

i do believe toad sage naruto can beat one tail naruto anything beyond that hes done. SOME PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND THAT NARUTO DID NOT BEAT PEIN PEIN SACRIFICED HIMSELF CAUSE NARUTO TALKED HIM TO DEATH

" @jacobyLIVE: do you have any proof 1 tails cant beat sage mode? "

" @Death From Above:   will you stop it   i NEVER said naruto (one tail) can beat pein i said pein has no way of containing him with out killing him. "

"spite 1 tail can pull a win "

"one tails feats>sage naruto feats " 
 
this is what im concerned about 
 
theres no way in hell 1 tails is beating sage mode 

and your logic of pein cantt seal 1 tails is even dumber when he was shown for a while to contain 6 tails.

" @Death From Above:  i hope you enjoy your name on the poo list dude because if you keep this up your going there "

@Death From Above said:

"
@Hellos:
i didnt even waste time reading what you had to say."  

 
I know, 10 seconds of very clear sentences that demolish the nonsense that your spout is a tough read. Kudos to you for taking ANOTHER post right out of the Spike handbook of fail. 

"i'm not going to spend all day arguing with you again. "

Yeah all day, You don't even argue you say nonsense and continue posting the same crap. Give me a break, when you post a real argument let me know. 
 

"I stated 9 tails would win against sage mode. And i stated that sage mode would beat 1 tails. End of dicussion."

You stated Naruto needs to hit 8 tails to take down someone with a 5 minute window of awsome who was getting owned by Pein. Again very debatable, but your not here debate.

  "You want to agrue with someone over stupid pity stuff, find someone else." 

I wonder if you let me find out your Spike and what your real account is on these sites. The word your looking for is stupid pidy what?  
Are you trying to say,

"If you want to argue with someone over stupid stuff, find someone else."
 

@Hellos:
still didnt bother reading what you had to say

 
 
9 tails beats toad sage 
 
toad sage beats 1 tails 
 
/ thread

" @jacobyLIVE: do you have any proof 1 tails cant beat sage mode? "

" @FLCL1 said:

" @jacobyLIVE: do you have any proof 1 tails cant beat sage mode? "

No. But If One-Tails could beat Sage mode, he would've just used one-Tails on Pein. "

"I would have to say that sage could beat one tails. The easiest way to say this is to look at the people that one tail has beat and then look at Sage mode, In sage mode Naruto told the Hokage to stay clear the battle field as she will only get in his way, he also beat pein. I think Sage mode will be more then able to handle one to two tales but past that and it's all over in IMO. "

"

@Hellos:
still didnt bother reading what you had to say

 
 
9 tails beats toad sage 
 
toad sage beats 1 tails 
 
/ thread

"

"I know, 10 seconds of very clear sentences that demolish the nonsense that your spout is a tough read. Kudos to you for taking ANOTHER post right out of the Spike handbook of fail. 

"        

" @FLCL1 said:

" @jacobyLIVE: do you have any proof 1 tails cant beat sage mode? "

No. But If One-Tails could beat Sage mode, he would've just used one-Tails on Pein. "

Problem is Naruto was moving away from using the Fox's power period, namely why he had to develope sage mode to begin with. Unliek Sage Mode Naruto can stay past 5 minutes in that form and will gradually grow tail after tail getting stronger.  
But again at that point of the story he was very anti using the Fox, now the plot has done a 360 on that. :P

" @thetitan0 said:

" @FLCL1 said:

" @OblivionKnight:   9 tailed fox>sage mode  1 tailed naruto>sage mode naruto "

i don't want to argue but i don't see any reason why sage mode couldn't soundly beat 1 tail naruto. "

speed>tail power>tail healing>tail justu>sage "

"speed, sage: they didn't even see when he hit demon pain. the only reason sasuke couldn't keep up with him was because the chakra acts on it's ownpower, sage: he pulled off 3 rasengan shurikens against pain. healing, tail: but has been knocked out. justu, sage. "

Speed: Sage
Strength: Sage
Durability: One Tails

Chakra Reserves: One Tails

Techniques: Sage Mode can pull out more.
Ranged: One tails 
 
The comparison can go on and on, each has their niches and like I said Sage is more than capable of haring the Kyuubi one tails, but it can aslo harm him.

" @OblivionKnight:  thank you form that intelligent post : )  but allow me correct you  naruto's arm didnt just "go numb" he hurt it in the collision with sasuke naruto used ragasan in tail form(justu) tailed form most likely wont hide sage mode naruto wont be able to do anything really, in fox form naruto is blood lusted. there is no talking like pein did naruto is going to stay on him, ang judging by the time naruto needs to charge a ragasan he can use that attack. "

" @Hellos: @Dark Zoom: @thetitan0: @jacobyLIVE:  
 
hold on ill actually prove what i say "

" @Hellos: okay now lets put this thread to rest.....have you read the new naruto? "

" @OblivionKnight:  thank you form that intelligent post : )  but allow me correct you  naruto's arm didnt just "go numb" he hurt it in the collision with sasuke naruto used ragasan in tail form(justu) tailed form most likely wont hide sage mode naruto wont be able to do anything really, in fox form naruto is blood lusted. there is no talking like pein did naruto is going to stay on him, ang judging by the time naruto needs to charge a ragasan he can use that attack. "

"@FLCL1 said:

" @OblivionKnight:  thank you form that intelligent post : )  but allow me correct you  naruto's arm didnt just "go numb" he hurt it in the collision with sasuke naruto used ragasan in tail form(justu) tailed form most likely wont hide sage mode naruto wont be able to do anything really, in fox form naruto is blood lusted. there is no talking like pein did naruto is going to stay on him, ang judging by the time naruto needs to charge a ragasan he can use that attack. "

No problem :P    That's actually a point Im not too sure about now that I think about it. Sasuke makes it seem as though NAruto does have a limit, but you saying that collision hurt NAruto also makes sense as it was the hand that went numb that he attacked Sasuke with right after he enters his second level of Cursed seal. Hmm.. maybe a combination of the two? And yes  he did, but no other jutsu were used. It's kind of a moot point as there's no clear reason to think on over the other(whether he can perform any jutsu he wants ot or not) but looking at it he may be able to perform jutsu as the previous form is able to do it and he used Rasengan. It could be preference in the battle, or maybe he can only perform certain jutsu? Not too sure on that. And yea I doubt he'd hide either, just a means of showing Sage Mode has a less chance of getting surprised(I have noo idea why I said hide :| .)   And since there's no talking, then NAruto will be focused, both of them I'd say. Using a couple of shadow clones would really help here. And IMO, it doesnt take too long for either of Naruto forms to charge a rasengan, but the tailed could possibly do it more smoothly and quickly as it already has a mold and whatnot and doesnt need clones but Sage NAruto has two rasengans.  * sigh. Naruto, Naruto, Naruto * "

"@OblivionKnight said:

"@FLCL1 said:

" @OblivionKnight:  thank you form that intelligent post : )  but allow me correct you  naruto's arm didnt just "go numb" he hurt it in the collision with sasuke naruto used ragasan in tail form(justu) tailed form most likely wont hide sage mode naruto wont be able to do anything really, in fox form naruto is blood lusted. there is no talking like pein did naruto is going to stay on him, ang judging by the time naruto needs to charge a ragasan he can use that attack. "

No problem :P    That's actually a point Im not too sure about now that I think about it. Sasuke makes it seem as though NAruto does have a limit, but you saying that collision hurt NAruto also makes sense as it was the hand that went numb that he attacked Sasuke with right after he enters his second level of Cursed seal. Hmm.. maybe a combination of the two? And yes  he did, but no other jutsu were used. It's kind of a moot point as there's no clear reason to think on over the other(whether he can perform any jutsu he wants ot or not) but looking at it he may be able to perform jutsu as the previous form is able to do it and he used Rasengan. It could be preference in the battle, or maybe he can only perform certain jutsu? Not too sure on that. And yea I doubt he'd hide either, just a means of showing Sage Mode has a less chance of getting surprised(I have noo idea why I said hide :| .)   And since there's no talking, then NAruto will be focused, both of them I'd say. Using a couple of shadow clones would really help here. And IMO, it doesnt take too long for either of Naruto forms to charge a rasengan, but the tailed could possibly do it more smoothly and quickly as it already has a mold and whatnot and doesnt need clones but Sage NAruto has two rasengans.  * sigh. Naruto, Naruto, Naruto * "

Generoully the more tails he has the less control he has over the chakra, which is probably going to change with the next chapter. But before it rolled off the concept he can still have clones run around, do jutsu's all up till 3 tails, then it goes to hell from there. "

" @Final Arrow:  ok i know your a mod and everything but please stop using abc logic and use feats  .....................................................  (dont ban me XD) "

   
@Final Arrow said:

"It is logic if you think about it, Each step is him growing as a fighter. his first time when he was to weak he was forced to use the tails as he had nothing else to fall back on. But as he has grown and been trained he does not need that power set. As I said Pein was thought to be one of the most powerful fighter in Naruto world and Naruto was able to go toe to toe with him in sage mode. Even when he finally let out the fox he had to go to six tales to break peins hold over him. This would imply that Naruto at this stage was past one tails power level.  Also don't be rude I have told you this before. Im happy to debate with anyone but I expect the same amount of curtosy that I show you to be shown back. "

@Dark Zoom

" @Hellos: i think sasukes gonna be even stronger than madara and get pissed that kabuto brought itatchi back to life and kill him "

"@Dark Zoom: 
I honestly don't have a clue what was going on with Madara, but it was enough for him to freely toss Sasuke over to Kabuto.

   
@Final Arrow said:

"It is logic if you think about it, Each step is him growing as a fighter. his first time when he was to weak he was forced to use the tails as he had nothing else to fall back on. But as he has grown and been trained he does not need that power set. As I said Pein was thought to be one of the most powerful fighter in Naruto world and Naruto was able to go toe to toe with him in sage mode. Even when he finally let out the fox he had to go to six tales to break peins hold over him. This would imply that Naruto at this stage was past one tails power level.  Also don't be rude I have told you this before. Im happy to debate with anyone but I expect the same amount of curtosy that I show you to be shown back. "

I generoully took the jump to 6 tails as the shock of Hinata's death infront of Naruto, pretty much putting him a blind rage the Fox happily used in an attempt to finnaly free itself from Naruto and devour him.
Naruto at that point was probably at his angriest he has ever been in that situation having someone you grew up with, someone you care about, that tried to defend you striked down with you unable to do anything about it. Seems like decent fuel for the 9 tails to take advantage of. :P 
 

@Dark Zoom

said:

" @Hellos: i think sasukes gonna be even stronger than madara and get pissed that kabuto brought itatchi back to life and kill him "

Anyone's stronger than Madara at this point, like he said hes a shadow of his former self, other than intangibility / personal dimension / teleportation your not going to see much out of him untill this war.     "

ok lets begin 
 
naruto was actually fast enough to totally zip past sasuke and hit him from the back, and due to his nearly limitless endurance i would say he can keep up that speed unlike NSM
 
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and unlike naruto (sage mode) he wasnt trying to kill him i would say NSM= or < NFM   
 
i really dont see anything but a ragasan getting through 
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 notice the fire isnt even near naruto , the coat is completely protecting him  
 
NSM isnt getting near him 
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he is to much 
 
range 
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" @FLCL1 said:

" @Final Arrow:  ok i know your a mod and everything but please stop using abc logic and use feats  .....................................................  (dont ban me XD) "

It is logic if you think about it, Each step is him growing as a fighter. his first time when he was to weak he was forced to use the tails as he had nothing else to fall back on. But as he has grown and been trained he does not need that power set. As I said Pein was thought to be one of the most powerful fighter in Naruto world and Naruto was able to go toe to toe with him in sage mode. Even when he finally let out the fox he had to go to six tales to break peins hold over him. This would imply that Naruto at this stage was past one tails power level.  Also don't be rude I have told you this before. Im happy to debate with anyone but I expect the same amount of curtosy that I show you to be shown back. "

"No I do agree, but Naruto would never have been able to break the hold if he had not gone to six tales, a feat that he could not have done in one tails, I was merely comparing the feats. That battle showed the full extent of Naruto's power by himself without the fox up until that point. He went toe to toe with Pein who to be fair almost beat him if it was not for the six tails. I dont think i explianed myself clearly as im about to head out and doing a few things at once. sorry about that. "

wow i love how people keep mentioning pein in this thread *rolls eyes* 
 
1) pein wasnt in the fight half the fight, his power was drained 
2)naruto didnt beat pein 
3)pein blood lusted can beat both naruto 1 tailed and sage mode naruto 

" wow i love how people keep mentioning pein in this thread *rolls eyes*  1) pein wasnt in the fight half the fight, his power was drained 2)naruto didnt beat pein 3)pein blood lusted can beat both naruto 1 tailed and sage mode naruto  "

I usually hate to reply or comment on something from nearly a decade ago but I just had to get this off my chest: Sage Naruto beat the 3rd Raikage who stalemated the 8 tails. Goodbye.

@killakobra110: Its fine. We all do it ? sometimes we cant resist.

Just wanna drop this here. Pain only beat Naruto because as SOON as Naruto ran out of sage mode, pain got his powers back AND Naruto was distracted by the toads dying.

Plus its plot Naruto didnt just make a sage clone for each of the pains or just dogpile him like he did against garaa and mizuki or kurama.

Answering a 2 year old comment tho.....

OT: KCM