TMNT vs Green Arrow

In character

Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death

Opponents are 50 meters away from each other at an unpopulated city block at night

Pre and Post New 52 feats apply

IDW TMNT

Standard gear and abilities

Random encounter

Who'd win? For what reasons?

Turtles are too good at deflecting and dodging projectiles.

The only tricky thing is trick arrows (see what I did there). If they deflect one of the arrows, like so:

it won't do them much good if it blows up in their face.

Jonas

@tparks: Lets not pretend anyone in TMNT is the same level of Archer that Green Arrow is either.

Karai has hit a cell phone from a mile away, and she has shown nothing but completely perfect accuracy so far. I don't see why she couldn't re-create at least some of the things Green Arrow does, if she had trick arrows.

if they can take cover in that environment and get close, then they take down any archer

Bumping my sexy*ss thread

TMNT get close enough to overwhelm him CQC.

I want to say Ollie could do it, but I don't know enough about comic turtles feats

Here's a respect thread for the current comic series: IDW TMNT Respect Thread

Here's a pretty awesome one for Mirage Turtles too if you're interested: Mirage TMNT Respect Thread

@dagmar_merrill said:

Did i just see a tornado arrow? WTF?

@those_eyes: Yup.

@tparks: thanks, i took a quick look but i didnt really see anything durability wise, and ollie has some area trick arrows that cants really be dodged, but i wonder if they could take the impact grenade arrow, with pre and new 52 it looks like ollie has a chance, it looked like leo and maybe raph could tank it, didnt see real durability from the other 2

Turtles 7/10

@mrnoital said:

@tparks: thanks, i took a quick look but i didnt really see anything durability wise, and ollie has some area trick arrows that cants really be dodged, but i wonder if they could take the impact grenade arrow, with pre and new 52 it looks like ollie has a chance

They do have some pretty nice durability feats like these from Krang and if you look at their fight with Slash, the entire time they are getting pounded on by Slash who is at least a 20 tonner and are able to keep fighting. But I do agree with you, the exploding arrows would be tricky, because the Turtles wouldn't expect it to blow up on them when they deflect it, since they don't know anything about GA.

@tparks: very nice, didnt see that one, mikey might be able to take some things, but from what i saw leo is a beast and can tank most damage ga throws his way, and it would take one of his tricks, glue bomb or riot foam arrows would be good ones to immobilize them too

Basically what TParks said is similar to my own views. The Turtles have shown solid projectile deflecting and dodging feats not to mention Leo reacting to a multi arrow combo from Karai who snagged a cell phone out of a guy's hand from a mile away. Having said that, the trick arrows are a trump card Arrow has that the Turtles know nothing about so if they slice one thinking that they'll deflect it, all they'll do is trigger it sooner. Nonetheless, once they see Oliver use his trick arrows, they'll know to be careful when deflecting his arrows. Based on their skill and physical advantage, I'd give the majority to the TMNT 6 or 7 times out of 10.

TMNT

B*mping my sexy*ss thread

@lvenger: I agree somewhat. I think ollie has the skill and training to pull more wins then 3-4 times though. I say ollie wins 5-6 times.

Given that you think Ollie wins, I don't think we're in pure agreement :P Still Ollie does have Pre New 52 feats as well, should've taken those into account.

Turtles all the way 8/10 times.

Turtles.

@lvenger: i meant your assessment of the turtles i agreed with lol sorry wasnt clear