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#51 Posted by dondave (38979 posts) - - Show Bio

Calm down boys

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#52 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

I respect those posters opinions, but I disagree, and believe that Wolverine has feats to prove that he faster. You're idea that we should only use low end feats to judge Wolverine shows how hypocritical and biased that you are :)

Im not deciding to use low feats. I like to use all feats. Some are low and they get disregarded, yet you (and others) like to use the highest showings only.

I think there is a nice average of showings where he can lose to the Mirage meta human stats Turtles who have tons of skill.

But you seem mad bro that I sided with Batman, Ultimate Green Goblin, and now the Turtles. Thats my vote. Deal with it.

Plus your bias as all get out anyway as well insult others who differ from your opinion.

like how your credibility is limited to insulting other users.

Wolverine Speed vs Batman

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Look at that well documented act of "Nuh Uh" debating for Wolverine.

What a class act.

#53 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20464 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine takes this big-time. First of all, Wolverine's healing factor and durability is above anything the Turtles here can dish out. His adamantium bones would shrug off Donatello's staff and Mikey's nunchucks with ease. Raphael's sais and Leonardo's swords might hurt Logan a bit, but he's been hit by far worse. Add the fact that Wolverine has more fighting experience than the four combined and its near impossible for the Turtles to win this brawl.

#54 Posted by Wolverine08 (45974 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

I respect those posters opinions, but I disagree, and believe that Wolverine has feats to prove that he faster. You're idea that we should only use low end feats to judge Wolverine shows how hypocritical and biased that you are :)

Im not deciding to use low feats. I like to use all feats. Some are low and they get disregarded, yet you (and others) like to use the highest showings only.

I think there is a nice average of showings where he can lose to the Mirage meta human stats Turtles who have tons of skill.

But you seem mad bro that I sided with Batman, Ultimate Green Goblin, and now the Turtles. Thats my vote. Deal with it.

I think he has consistent showings of speed and skill to justify him beating the Turtles in a pretty good fight. Like I said, if you keep harassing me, I'll just get you banned bro. You'll be "mad" then too :)

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#55 Edited by NighThunder (4940 posts) - - Show Bio

Is anyone really sayig logan......Do the turtles get dragon form?

#56 Posted by jashro44 (26523 posts) - - Show Bio

@nighthunder: the turtles had a dragon form in the mirage comics?!?

#57 Posted by NighThunder (4940 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: oh , didn't read it was mirage comics. But , in the cartoon , they had a thing where they turned into dragons.

#58 Edited by IndieComicsFTW (3252 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44:

First off let me explain this is Mirage comics TMNTs. I have the 1st Vol (Original) and not the 2nd Vol (In Color Volumes) nor the 3rd Vol (Image Comics which are Non Cannon) but do have the 4th Vol. Both the 1st and 4th Vol are originally Black and White. There is no color versions except fan made colored versions.

Mirage TMNT Comics are the very first TMNT ever! This is what the TV Shows and Movies were base on. The Original Black and White Comics. Without further ado, Mirage TMNT.

Mirage TMNT Feats. Enjoy.

Strength

The Turtles are indeed of Low Meta Human Strength.

1) Leo bashes through a Brick Wall with a blow.

2) Leo cuts down the middle the stone monster Perfect Carnage with his Steel Sword.

3) Leo from sitting position jumps up and over a fleeing Foot Ninja.

4) Leo (Yes it is Leo, all the Mirage Turtles wore Red Bandannas) kicks through a Telephone Pole thick beam.

5) Leo lifts a old school steel fridge and walks it outside into the house with no probs. Those things are like 400 pounds.

6) Mike Breaks the chain of a Punching Bag and punches through the wooden walls of the barn.

7) Mike rips through leather straps with no problem.

8) Mike rips through his straps again.

9) Donny grabs and drags Perfect Carnage through a stone wall till he formed in it again.

Speed

Add to this their amazing Bullet and Laser dodging speed.

1) Donny flips between bullets.

2) Leo avoids Assassins AR fire.

3-4) Leo dodges blaster fire while throwing his Sword in the barrel. Then Dodges multiple Arrow fire up close.This feat is more impressive as the foes he is fighting are the best from Battle World.

5) Raph reacts and counter a Giant Spiders lunge.

6) Turtles counter many attacks of a Phantom coming all at once.

7) Donny moves to fast for this guy to aim at.

8) More Bullet dodging in mid air.

9) Dodging fire from experience poachers.

10) Avoiding Laser fire.

11) Dodging Lasers from soldiers.

12) Dodging Lasers from the Krang.

Durability

Like their Strength, the TMNT Durability is Low Meta Human.

1) Dony gets slammed into a van and crushes the van with his impact. Back into the fight.

2) Leo at the age of 100 gets crushed on the concrete building, at this frail age still talking.

3) They can fall from 3 stories and be fine.

4-5) Raph drops many stories through the roof of a movie theater and down below. He is fine.

6) Leather Head slams Raph into the wall. No biggy.

7) Raph can keep going with all sorts of arrows and ninja stars in him.

Agility

Lets face it, they are superb ninjas! They have it.

1) Mike dances and balances on gravity controlled bars.

2-3) Raph back flips on the steep snow covered arches of the barn.

4) Agility in spades with rope swinging, rope running, and flipping from roof top to roof top.

Accuracy

1) Leo ninja Stars head shots the Rat King.

2) Donny Ninja stars the Gun Barrel.

3) TMNT Ninja Star and Nun Chuck foes with head shots as they are being fired on.

4) Leo cuts a thin gun barrel in half.

Mental Resistance

1-3) The Decider was a City Level Telepath who at first mind controlled the TMNT. Until Splinter taught them basic Mental Resistance.

4) Splinter continues training them in their Mental Training.

Just to show how good Spliter was vs astral projection and TP, here is some feats.

Vs the Mystic.

Vs the Rat King.

Splinter has a few more TP feats with his perfection of Nin Jutsu and other arts, but the point is he is and was a insane Mental warrior.

No Morals Towards Killing

Unlike the TV show Turtles and many other versions people know, the Orginal TMNT killed foes with no qualms. Only Mike had Morals on it, and Donny tried not to kill foes if he could help it. Leo and Raph, they killed anyone to end a fight quick.

All killer examples. Pun intended.

Battles

Donny

Donny vs a giant Golem.

Donny faces Triceratons, each one Meta human in strength and durability. Warrior race train from birth.

Donny vs a alien goo monster.

Donny with skill and his Staff KOes a Raptor.

Donny is shrunk in sized and fights a average size jungle Spider.

Mike

Mike starving and beaten down from being imprison still beats down a Meta Human Triceraton.

Mike still weak from imprisonment faces of against one of the best train Tricratons design to be faster at a cost of super strength.

Raph

Raph infiltrates the Foot Hideout and takes out all guards in his way to deliver Shredder a challenge.

Raph takes out one of the low meta human in strength fish men.

Raph easily out stealths and tactics the other 3 Turtles in a game of Laser Tag.

Raph fights Leo. This is proof of Raph's skill to Leo who few days later beats Shredder in a 1 on 1 fight. Easily shows Raph could beat Shredder 1 on 1 as well.

Raph vs most of the Foot after his fight with Leo, and stomps.

Raph faces himself through Shadow Sorcery.

Raph faces one of the Shredder Elite. These guys were all personally train by Shredder, and each Elite was a match for every Turtle as well Karia. Raph beats one in 5 panels.

Raph vs Werewolves. Although he does not win, he does hold his own vs multiple Werewolves.

Raph faces more Werewolves to save Casey's daughter Shadow.

Leo

Leo faces a prodigy Foot Ninja named Cha Ocho. Takes him out with a little pocket blade.

A Younger Leo cast in time with his older versions takes out powers a Nile Crocodile and then takes out Egyptian soldiers.

Leo's epic fight with the raised from the dead Shredder.

Leo suffering from a Nerve Deadening toxin battles a Giant Snapping Turtle and Meta Human Fish Lady.

Leo faces and kills the Super Human being Perfect Carnage.

Leo vs duel with Cha Ocho again.

Leo faces one of the super human Aztec Warriors of the Battle Nexus. Warrior Supreme with superior weapons.

Leo vs some of the best warriors of many dimensions in the Battle Nexus. Also takes out a giant monster in the process.

TMNT

TMNT take on the Foot and kill the Shredder as a group.

TMNT face the Foot out in force.

Turtles square off against the Triceratons 4 best warriors.

TMNT sent back in time to face a T-Rex and Raptors.

TMNT out ninja 4 skilled assassins.

TMNT face off the Spirit of Oroku Nagi.

TMNT are ambushed by shredder and the entire New York Foot Clan.

TMNT are caught between the New York Foot clan and the Japan Foot Clan Mech Machines in a Gang War. Then a single Shredder Elite mixed it up against all of them.

Just a idea how skilled a single Shredder Elite is. When Shredder died for good, they were his best.

The Final battle had 4 Shredder Elite face the TMNTs, Karai, and what was left of the Foot Clan. Just 4 Shredder Elite. Turtles win, with Raph and Leo being the real victors, and Mike as well Donny lucking out. These Shredder Train guys were no joke.

#59 Posted by God_Spawn (38602 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine still.

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#60 Posted by Wolverine08 (45974 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine ultimately takes a strong majority if not a complete sweep.

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#61 Edited by batmannflash (6227 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine ultimately takes a strong majority if not a complete sweep.

#62 Posted by Son_of_simba (698 posts) - - Show Bio

Samurai Jack inhabits a completely different and indepependent, toon force ridden world than that of Wolverine or the Mirage Turtles, so a comparison like that is a bit problematic. Current Wolverine can take at least one blow from heavy hitters like Hulk, Thing or Colossus and still go on fairly well, so I don't think Leonardo and co. would knock him out very quickly. Without prep, they don't know about Logans HF and adamantium augmented skeleton, giving them quite a disadvantage. The ol' Canucklehead should be able to tag them.

Do your homework wolverine can take punches from the thing all day he wrecked the thing in their fight he can take multiple hits from 100 tonners so stop tryna downplay his durability

#63 Edited by NinjaWarrior268 (2647 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine

He's a better mutant than all 4 of them

#64 Posted by Mee09 (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: I know you were done with this thread 8 months ago. But I just wanted to let you know that you weren't crazy. Wolverine does beat the Mirage Turtles here. His healing factor and adamantium make this fight completely unfair for them. Maybe if they were given Adamantium weapons they could win this. But with their default weapons and gear. All they can really do is just keep Logan away from them. The way I see it. After one of them is killed and they realize that there is nothing they can do to stop him. They would probably run away badly injured.