Who wins this one?
Tifa Lockhart(FF) VS Azula(Avatar)
get in here
get in here
First thing to address, Tifa does not punch with the force of a nuclear bomb, contrary to the hyperbole given to her final limit.
She is, however, Superhuman in every capacity.
Tifa Lockhart
Overview/Abilities
Superhuman Durability - Tifa can withstand blows that would make a normal human being explode into pieces....
Superhuman Speed - Tifa can cover vast distances in a split second.
Superhuman Reflexes - Tifa can react to things in a moment.
Master Martial Artist - Tifa is a master at hand to hand fighting. It is not revealed what fighting styles she knows, but she focuses heavily on striking over submissions.
Tifa's Fighting Style and Her abilities
1:10-2:00 - Great showing of ability here, she tanks electrically charged shots from her opponent multiple times over, and it's shown that these attacks shatter concrete, but she blocks and tanks them without much sign of injury. You can also see her immense speed, and her acrobatic heavy strikes fighting style.
2:00-2:20 - Before Gravity pulls her to the ground she has time to re position herself on the wall, and lunge against her target. Then mops the floor with him at blinding speeds, tosses him into the air, and then smashes him to the ground.
3:10-3:35 - Smashes a church pew effortlessly with a backhand, and then tanks a lightning blast that shatters the concrete pillar behind her, and still remains conscious (though barely, and definitely worse for ware).
Durability
2:00-2:15 - Survives a slice from Sephiroth....
Strength, Speed, and Ability again
2:30-2:50 - Tifa handles a group of Shadow Creeps. These things can run 60 MPH or better, and can effortlessly throw a full grown human being 3-5 meters in the air, and they can tank a fire hydrant cap and the initially rush of water with only being mildly inconvenienced.
2:50-3:00 - With her kick, redirects a blast capable of leveling a city block
Oh the brutality!
8:40-9:30 - Tifa, Cloud, and Aerith threaten this guy's balls....
Personality
Tifa is a great character because of her devotion to the group. She's funny, she gets into a b!tch slap competition with someone at one point throughout the game, she's kind, caring, and overall one of the best characters.
The B!tch Slap Competition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3Qz_ZUWSM
Tifa and Cloud
On the Way to a Smile
Episode 2
There were many times when Cloud had to leave Midgar for their supplies. The destination was mainly Kalm. He had to rent a bike or a truck or sometimes a chocobo but now, he had his own bike. Occasionally it seemed he would travel very far and manage to get some rare goods.
One night, there was a call for Cloud. After talking on the phone for a while, Cloud said he had to go out for a while.
"Where are you going?"
"How should I tell you this..."
Cloud told Tifa how there had many times when he was asked to deliver something while returning with supplies. The caller was one of the store owners who shared some of his vegetables with them. It seemed there was something that he wanted Cloud to deliver before the night was over by all means. Cloud gazed at Tifa like a kid who just had his secrets revealed.
"Why are you looking at me like that?
"Well... I'm sorry I kept quiet about it."
"About what?"
"Doing what I wanted."
Tifa burst out laughing. Cloud went on about how he got paid a little for delivering items. He felt guilty spending it all on the modifications for his bike. Tifa thought he was just like a kid. It may have been a little sad that Cloud had found another world that she didn't know about but, the fact that his world was expanding was a welcoming thought. Yes, it was similar to the feelings a mother would have. Tifa walked Cloud outside and was enjoying the new feeling that was blooming in her.
Overall she's a well written character, and essential to the story. It's hard not to like her as a character.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
Floopay should be nerfed in FF know how >.< Well done sir, Tifa takes it.
i agree completely
actually just everything fantasy
guy could probably solo Thanos and Darkseid with Gromph Baenre full equips and a nanosecond of prep
Tifa is a great character because of her devotion to the group. She's funny, she gets into a b!tch slap competition with someone at one point throughout the game, she's kind, caring, and overall one of the best characters.
Overall she's a well written character, and essential to the story. It's hard not to like her as a character.
Low bar, I know.
Azula as Tifa is close to featless and her only fight although visually pretty was still a loss and I don't imagine she can survive being set on fire.
Azula as Tifa is close to featless and her only fight although visually pretty was still a loss and I don't imagine she can survive being set on fire.
Considering Tifa redirected, after making direct contact with, a fire attack that leaves molten steel in it's wake, I think she can handle fire.
She walked through Shinra infantry on at least 2 occasions, while inside of Shinra headquarters, and being pursued and fighting encounters, and didn't receive a single gunshot wound.
She fought Deepground soldiers (who are super human) with hand to hand combat only, and took them out with ease.
She has for sure fought steel constructs in the past, and was able to destroy them with her bare hands/fists.
Over and above this we know she can tank shots that would normally crumble concrete beneath their strikes without any harm to her person (shown when a casual shot from Loz smashed a crater into the concrete wall behind her), she has reflexes and a level of perceptions that allows her to re-position herself on the side of a wall and leap from it before the effects of gravity takes place, which puts her as well above characters like Wolverine in speed. This is backed up by her effortlessly handling 3-4 Shadow Creeps at once.
As good as Azula is, I'm pretty sure Tifa can tank more shots from Azula, than Azula can tank from Tifa. Over and above this, Tifa has every possible physical advantage.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
Considering Tifa redirected, after making direct contact with, a fire attack that leaves molten steel in it's wake, I think she can handle fire.
The initial blast appears solid otherwise she couldn't kick it and she was floored when it exploded in the distance so it's not a very impressive showing. This in no way shows that she would be capable of surviving a wall of flames as she would hardly be able to kick that out of the way.
She walked through Shinra infantry on at least 2 occasions, while inside of Shinra headquarters, and being pursued and fighting encounters, and didn't receive a single gunshot wound.
The entire group runs from gunfire and never gets hit regardless of shape or apparent reflex even Barret, Aeris and Sith
She fought Deepground soldiers (who are super human) with hand to hand combat only, and took them out with ease.
She has for sure fought steel constructs in the past, and was able to destroy them with her bare hands/fists.
Over and above this we know she can tank shots that would normally crumble concrete beneath their strikes without any harm to her person (shown when a casual shot from Loz smashed a crater into the concrete wall behind her), she has reflexes and a level of perceptions that allows her to re-position herself on the side of a wall and leap from it before the effects of gravity takes place, which puts her as well above characters like Wolverine in speed. This is backed up by her effortlessly handling 3-4 Shadow Creeps at once.
As good as Azula is, I'm pretty sure Tifa can tank more shots from Azula, than Azula can tank from Tifa. Over and above this, Tifa has every possible physical advantage.
Nearly everyone of these is within game mechanics which I always take with a massive pinch of salt. Nathan Drake takes down heavily armoured mercenary companies within the game mechanics and regens from bullets but just like Tifa is threatened off by gunfire during scenes.
It may appear solid, but Cloud Strife actually flew through one of those blasts, so it's not :)
None of those feats are in game mechanics, they all happened, and are all cannon. They are just off-panel (some of them) or were somewhat gameplay. Regardless of what happens in gameplay, the plain and simple fact is, if Tifa is stated as one of the ones who defeated a giant hovering robot construct, then it happened.
This happens multiple times throughout the game(s). She fights Shinra Soldiers multiple times as well, and it is perfectly cannon that she doesn't actually get shot, as she was still perfectly capable of running. And no, not gameplay fought them, as in, was pursued, it showed them pursuing her and firing at her, jumped to another cutscene, and then when it cut back to her she was fine and there were no more Shinra troops.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@arcus get in here, azula needs you.
@haoalchemist: I don't know anything about Tifa
@haoalchemist: I don't know anything about Tifa
Read the above post by Floofay, do you have any counters to why Azula would win?
Oops for a while i thought it was a CaV and we were talking about the wonderful user with the same name.
@haoalchemist: I don't know anything about Tifa
Read the above post by Floofay, do you have any counters to why Azula would win?
not really
@arcusDang, you were our only hope :P:
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