"The Destructo Disk can cut through anything.....its just weilded by a weak fighter."lol
i know a couple of things it cant cut through
"xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ?"Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless."xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet..."oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all."King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"King Saturn said:But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet..."oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. ""King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"oldmagic said:It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut."King Saturn said:But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... ""oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. ""King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"King Saturn said:It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that. Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp..."oldmagic said:It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. ""King Saturn said:But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... ""oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. ""King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"oldmagic said:So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?"King Saturn said:It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that. Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp...""oldmagic said:It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. ""King Saturn said:But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... ""oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. ""King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"King Saturn said:Who Knows ? I just wanted to match wits with you a little while since I am in the middle of a Conference Meeting on the phone"oldmagic said:So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?""King Saturn said:It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that. Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp...""oldmagic said:It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. ""King Saturn said:But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... ""oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. ""King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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I agree with King Saturn. Just because it has cut through everything it has come up against so far, doesn't mean it can cut through everything. Kind of like the lightsaber. Everyone thought it could cut through anything and then one day, all this material could stop it dead. Just because something hasn't stopped it yet, doesn't mean nothing can.
"oldmagic said:And i'm busy eating dinner while being distracted by my brother. lol"King Saturn said:Who Knows ? I just wanted to match wits with you a little while since I am in the middle of a Conference Meeting on the phone"oldmagic said:So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?""King Saturn said:It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that. Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp...""oldmagic said:It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. ""King Saturn said:But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... ""oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. ""King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"King Saturn said:Oh I See"oldmagic said:And i'm busy eating dinner while being distracted by my brother. lol"King Saturn said:Who Knows ? I just wanted to match wits with you a little while since I am in the middle of a Conference Meeting on the phone"oldmagic said:So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?""King Saturn said:It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that. Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp...""oldmagic said:It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. ""King Saturn said:But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... ""oldmagic said:But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. ""King Saturn said:But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... ""oldmagic said:It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. ""xXi0RIXx said:I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? ""Lantern Prime said:well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. ""Like what? Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."
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"I agree with King Saturn. Just because it has cut through everything it has come up against so far, doesn't mean it can cut through everything. Kind of like the lightsaber. Everyone thought it could cut through anything and then one day, all this material could stop it dead. Just because something hasn't stopped it yet, doesn't mean nothing can."The same thing goes for adamantium. I don't think that the destructo disk could cut adamantium either.
"erik said:Why do you say that?"I agree with King Saturn. Just because it has cut through everything it has come up against so far, doesn't mean it can cut through everything. Kind of like the lightsaber. Everyone thought it could cut through anything and then one day, all this material could stop it dead. Just because something hasn't stopped it yet, doesn't mean nothing can."The same thing goes for adamantium. I don't think that the destructo disk could cut adamantium either."
"Okay, let me ask you something. Could adamantium survive a trip to the sun?Adamantium has only been damaged by the most powerful beings in the universe. The destructo disk is produced by a being that is not in that class of individuals in his universe. I honestly think Goku could take a destructo disk without even blocking it.
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"King Saturn said:I know. But I wanted to say something that would bring the thread back on topic"Frieza still wins this fightyes yes we get that. "
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"erik said:"It has been stated that once adamantium is created and it cools, nothing short of molecular manipulation is going to destroy it."damn....that back fired lol i could say other things as well but whats the point when they are nothing but assumptions...."
Tien's power level 15,000,000,000 (Kaioken x20)
Frieza 100% power level = 120,000,000
Yeah, Tien would win.
1) When did Tien learn Kaioken?
2) How do you know a 20x Kaioken would put Tien at a PL of 15 billion?
3) Even if you're right about that, it would mean that his normal PL would still be 750 million, so why even bother to bring Kaioken into this?
4) Why in the the holy hell did you bump a 2 year old thread for this?
" @Freefa11: 1) http://tenshinhanpowerlevels.blogspot.com/2007/10/dragon-ball-z-encyclopedia-daizenshuu-7.html 2) You answered that yourself. 3) Many people do not know he has Kaioken. 4) I didn't BUMP, i found something that was interesting and replied to it, if i made a DUPE THREAD, i would be referred to here, plus most of these people said Frieza was going to win. "1) That page says it includes PLs that the guy made up himself, and making up Tien having Kaioken seems to be his own invention as well. There is nothing in the manga or anime that indicates Tien knows Kaioken, so unless there is an actual quote from the Daizhenshuu or Toriyama somewhere that specifically says he does, he doesn't. The first couple paragraphs also look like some retarded fanboy rant against other people who disagree with him on certain PLs, so I'm not sure why you think I should take that site seriously.
Like hell, EOS tien wins this with ease..
Not only is he stronger he also knows the evil containment wave from dragon Ball.
Frieza.CURBSTOMP.
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