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#51  Edited By xXi0RIXx
Lantern Prime said:
"The Destructo Disk can cut through anything.....its just weilded by a weak fighter."
lol

i know a couple of things it cant cut through
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#52  Edited By Lantern Prime

Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything.

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#53  Edited By xXi0RIXx
Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD
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#54  Edited By oldmagic
xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. 
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#55  Edited By King_Saturn
oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ?
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#56  Edited By oldmagic
King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. 
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#57  Edited By King_Saturn
oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet...
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#58  Edited By oldmagic
King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. 
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#59  Edited By King_Saturn
oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. "
But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet...
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#60  Edited By oldmagic
King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. "
But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... "
It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. 
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#61  Edited By King_Saturn
oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. "
But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... "
It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. "
It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that.  Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp...
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#62  Edited By oldmagic
King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. "
But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... "
It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. "
It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that.  Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp..."
So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?
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#63  Edited By King_Saturn
oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. "
But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... "
It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. "
It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that.  Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp..."
So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?"
Who Knows ? I just wanted to match wits with you a little while since I am in the middle of a Conference Meeting on the phone

LOL 
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#64  Edited By Erik

I agree with King Saturn. Just because it has cut through everything it has come up against so far, doesn't mean it can cut through everything. Kind of like the lightsaber. Everyone thought it could cut through anything and then one day, all this material could stop it dead. Just because something hasn't stopped it yet, doesn't mean nothing can.

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#65  Edited By oldmagic
King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. "
But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... "
It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. "
It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that.  Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp..."
So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?"
Who Knows ? I just wanted to match wits with you a little while since I am in the middle of a Conference Meeting on the phone

LOL 
"
And i'm busy eating dinner while being distracted by my brother. lol 
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#66  Edited By King_Saturn
oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"oldmagic said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Like what?  Frieza's blade I know for sure can cut through anything."

ah
ha
ha
ha
ha
 yet again
YOU SIR
have lost your right to talk XD"
well, so far, it never failed to cut anything. So i'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. "
I guess so. But has it been tested against people who can generate Force Fields ? "
It has not even gone up against any type of force field because it never happened. So asking that question is quite useless. "
But thats my point. We dont know if it could go through a Force Field or if it couldnt... the question is not useless... it merely shows an option that this technique has not yet been tested with yet... "
But it IS useless. Assuming and coming up with theories are nothing but useless. This is dragon ball z after all. "
But you assumed that the Destructo Disk can cut through anything cause it hasnt failed yet... that is an assumption too... simply cause it hasnt been tested against everything that it could have been yet... "
It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Because so far, it never defeated it's own purpose of failing to cut something. This is pretty much like the distructo disk Krillen used. So far, everything he uses at has been cut. "
It is a fact that it has cut everything that it has been up against... but it isnt a fact that it can cut through anything... cause it hasnt been tested by everything to actually say it can actually do that.  Its like if I said that a 5th Dimensional Imp has the power to do anything... which it does... but if it went up against someone like Living Tribunal who it hasnt been tested against... it would lose... cause the LT is more powerful that the Imp..."
So what is your point? what can it NOT cut against?"
Who Knows ? I just wanted to match wits with you a little while since I am in the middle of a Conference Meeting on the phone

LOL 
"
And i'm busy eating dinner while being distracted by my brother. lol 
"
Oh I See

LOL
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#67  Edited By Erik
erik said:
"I agree with King Saturn. Just because it has cut through everything it has come up against so far, doesn't mean it can cut through everything. Kind of like the lightsaber. Everyone thought it could cut through anything and then one day, all this material could stop it dead. Just because something hasn't stopped it yet, doesn't mean nothing can."
The same thing goes for adamantium. I don't think that the destructo disk could cut adamantium either.
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#68  Edited By oldmagic
erik said:
"erik said:
"I agree with King Saturn. Just because it has cut through everything it has come up against so far, doesn't mean it can cut through everything. Kind of like the lightsaber. Everyone thought it could cut through anything and then one day, all this material could stop it dead. Just because something hasn't stopped it yet, doesn't mean nothing can."
The same thing goes for adamantium. I don't think that the destructo disk could cut adamantium either."
Why do you say that?
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#69  Edited By Erik

Adamantium has only been damaged by the most powerful beings in the universe. The destructo disk is produced by a being that is not in that class of individuals in his universe. I honestly think Goku could take a destructo disk without even blocking it.

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#70  Edited By oldmagic
erik said:
"

Adamantium has only been damaged by the most powerful beings in the universe. The destructo disk is produced by a being that is not in that class of individuals in his universe. I honestly think Goku could take a destructo disk without even blocking it.

"
Okay, let me ask you something. Could adamantium survive a trip to the sun?
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#71  Edited By Erik

It has been stated that once adamantium is created and it cools, nothing short of molecular manipulation is going to destroy it.

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#72  Edited By oldmagic
erik said:
"It has been stated that once adamantium is created and it cools, nothing short of molecular manipulation is going to destroy it."
damn....that back fired lol i could say other things as well but whats the point when they are nothing but assumptions....
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#73  Edited By Erik

Lol.

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#74  Edited By King_Saturn
Frieza still wins this fight
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#75  Edited By oldmagic
King Saturn said:
"Frieza still wins this fight
"
yes yes we get that. 
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#76  Edited By King_Saturn
oldmagic said:
"King Saturn said:
"Frieza still wins this fight
"
yes yes we get that. "
I know. But I wanted to say something that would bring the thread back on topic

LOL
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#77  Edited By Erik

King Saturn for the win.

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#78  Edited By King_Saturn
erik said:
"King Saturn for the win."
LOL
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#79  Edited By cpt_linger

who would have thought such a battle topc would have lived for so long

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#80  Edited By Swagga Boy

hmmmm

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#81  Edited By Perfect Cell
oldmagic said:
"erik said:
"It has been stated that once adamantium is created and it cools, nothing short of molecular manipulation is going to destroy it."
damn....that back fired lol i could say other things as well but whats the point when they are nothing but assumptions...."

That actually depends, Erik. There are many forms of adamantium. I will just name 2 of the major types:
  • True Adamantium - 

The most expensive adamantium to make. It is virtually indestructible depending on it's thickness of the adamantium material. If the meterial is too thin for example (paper thin); it would be able to be warped by the hands of one with super strength (ex: Juggernaut) Captain America's shield is based on True Adamantium via the process of Vibranium.


  • Secondary Adamantium -

Cost-efficient adamantium. Secondary adamantium is also largely indestructible. Conventional weapons, such as ballistic missiles, have no effect on it; it is far stronger than even the most durable of titanium steel compounds. However, extraordinary blunt force, such as a punch from a being with superhuman strength, can warp or break it. Some Sentiels, Robots, body armor spanning Magneto Wars to Apocolypse Wars have existent with this kind of adamantium.


These two are the strongest types. The others below it are more flexible adamantium but thus weaker. However, debating if adamantium can melt due to the suns heat. I believe it can. It takes the temperature of 1,500 degrees F to make adamantium. However. due to data bases of adamantium, the "indestructibility relies on the mass of the object". So the sun corona can hit over 2 million degrees F. An Adamantium Ball as big as a house may be able to enter the Sun's corona and into the surface, however... Let's say throw wolverine in the corona and his flesh would melt instantly and the adamantium bone would melt eventually. But even if adamantium were to go beyond the surface of the sun, it would disintegrate indefinitely because the core of the Sun reaches over 27 million degrees F. So comparing logics between our science and Marvel's science. Adamantium is breakable.



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#82  Edited By King_Saturn
cpt_linger said:
"who would have thought such a battle topc would have lived for so long"
Ha Ha Ha  !
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#83  Edited By cpt_linger
frieza in red, tien in green
frieza in red, tien in green
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#84  Edited By King_Saturn
cpt_linger said:
"
frieza in red, tien in green
frieza in red, tien in green
"
My God
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#85  Edited By rangersoul6

Tien's power level   15,000,000,000 (Kaioken x20)  
 Frieza 100% power level =   120,000,000  
 
Yeah, Tien would win.

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#86  Edited By Freefa11

1) When did Tien learn Kaioken? 
 
2) How do you know a 20x Kaioken would put Tien at a PL of 15 billion? 
 
3) Even if you're right about that, it would mean that his normal PL would still be 750 million, so why even bother to bring Kaioken into this? 
 
4) Why in the the holy hell did you bump a 2 year old thread for this?

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#88  Edited By sexy_merc

Tien wins.

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#89  Edited By rangersoul6
@Sexy Merc: Finally, somebody understands.
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#90  Edited By Freefa11
@rangersoul6 said:
" @Freefa11: 1)  http://tenshinhanpowerlevels.blogspot.com/2007/10/dragon-ball-z-encyclopedia-daizenshuu-7.html  2) You answered that yourself. 3) Many people do not know he has Kaioken. 4) I didn't BUMP, i found something that was interesting and replied to it, if i made a DUPE THREAD, i would be referred to here, plus most of these people said Frieza was going to win. "
1)  That page says it includes PLs that the guy made up himself, and making up Tien having Kaioken seems to be his own invention as well. There is nothing in the manga or anime that indicates Tien knows Kaioken, so unless there is an actual quote from the Daizhenshuu or Toriyama somewhere that specifically says he does, he doesn't. The first couple paragraphs also look like some retarded fanboy rant against other people who disagree with him on certain PLs, so I'm not sure why you think I should take that site seriously. 
  
2) I'm actually pretty sure I didn't. 
 
3) Uh, that's not the point, the point is if he has a PL of 750 million, that's all you need to say to make it clear he outmatches Freeza. Kaioken would be completely unnecessary. Of course, the 750 million figure (as well as Tien having Kaioken at all) was just made up by the author of that site, so it doesn't really matter anyway.
 
4) Freeza should win.
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#91  Edited By LordStarkiller

Frieza could easily destroy tien. I wonder why the humans are so weak in dbz

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#92  Edited By buttersdaman000

Tien

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#93  Edited By Billy Batson

Frieza. 

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#94  Edited By Freefa11
@LordStarkiller: Master Roshi was capable of parrying sub-machinegun fire from close range and blew up the moon. You think that's weak?
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Tien wins

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Like hell, EOS tien wins this with ease..

Not only is he stronger he also knows the evil containment wave from dragon Ball.

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This is spite.

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