#1 Posted by k4tzm4n (51097 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Thunderbolts

Deadpool

Punisher

Elektra

vs.

Team Avengers

Captain America

Black Widow

Shang Chi

Location

An arcade (you remember those, right?). Unpopulated. Begin visible and 40 feet apart.

Rules

  • Random encounter.
  • In character but determined to win.
  • Standard gear.
  • Standard elimination rules apply.

#2 Posted by Saren (26022 posts) - - Show Bio

Thunderbolts. I'd give Deadpool the edge over Cap if he's determined to win and a solid majority over Widow, Punisher or Elektra the edge over Widow (War Zone and Widow #3 stalemates not withstanding), and.....I'm not completely sure how Elektra and Shang Chi match up. I remember an old encounter in Elektra's solo series but not much else.

Does "in character but determined to win" mean Frank won't stand still and let Steve pummel him senseless because war hero?

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#3 Posted by TDK_1997 (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

If Deadpool is serious about this fight he has a big chance of defeating Captain America.While I think Punisher will take out Black Widow also but with some little problems.I am not sure about the last fight,I think Shang Chi may defeat Elektra but in the end he will go against Punisher and Deadpool and in the end the Thunderbolts will come out victorious.

#4 Edited by Cepedan (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool solos

#5 Posted by k4tzm4n (51097 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, keep in mind I'm considering Shang-Chi's latest weapon (electric nunchuks) as standard gear.

Thunderbolts. I'd give Deadpool the edge over Cap if he's determined to win and a solid majority over Widow, Punisher or Elektra the edge over Widow (War Zone and Widow #3 stalemates not withstanding), and.....I'm not completely sure how Elektra and Shang Chi match up. I remember an old encounter in Elektra's solo series but not much else.

Does "in character but determined to win" mean Frank won't stand still and let Steve pummel him senseless because war hero?

I know it's a joke, but that's the sole reason I wrote it like that.

@tdk_1997 said:

If Deadpool is serious about this fight he has a big chance of defeating Captain America.While I think Punisher will take out Black Widow also but with some little problems.I am not sure about the last fight,I think Shang Chi may defeat Elektra but in the end he will go against Punisher and Deadpool and in the end the Thunderbolts will come out victorious.

He's in character. So, no, odds are he isn't serious right off the bat.

@cepedan said:

Deadpool solos

Care to elaborate?

#6 Posted by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio

Thunderbolts ftw

#7 Edited by TDK_1997 (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@tdk_1997 said:

If Deadpool is serious about this fight he has a big chance of defeating Captain America.While I think Punisher will take out Black Widow also but with some little problems.I am not sure about the last fight,I think Shang Chi may defeat Elektra but in the end he will go against Punisher and Deadpool and in the end the Thunderbolts will come out victorious.

He's in character. So, no, odds are he isn't serious right off the bat.

Well then I think Thunderbolts get this 7/10.Deadpool can outclass Steve in a fight in my opinion.While the others handle their own enemies.

#8 Posted by k4tzm4n (51097 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@tdk_1997 said:

If Deadpool is serious about this fight he has a big chance of defeating Captain America.While I think Punisher will take out Black Widow also but with some little problems.I am not sure about the last fight,I think Shang Chi may defeat Elektra but in the end he will go against Punisher and Deadpool and in the end the Thunderbolts will come out victorious.

He's in character. So, no, odds are he isn't serious right off the bat.

Well then I think Thunderbolts get this 7/10.Deadpool can outclass Steve in a fight in my opinion.While the others handle their own enemies.

Por que?

#9 Edited by King Saturn (224776 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with The Avengers here...

I think Shang Chi will get the better of Deadpool... Deadpool will play around too much and this will allow Shang to get the upper hand in the combat department... even though I think DP has better gear than Shang Chi does... I don't see why Chi can't dodge the weapons of DP and attack him in his own right.

Captain America will spank The Punisher... Punisher is probably one of my favorite Non Powered Superheroes... but Steve would smash him to pieces... too much skill as well as too many physical advantages over Frank.

Black Widow and Elektra is too close to call... both crazy skilled...

#10 Posted by jashro44 (23742 posts) - - Show Bio

I think this could go either way. I agree with the majority consensus that deadpool would beat Rogers. Rogers is more skilled however deadpools healing factor makes him hard to drop and he does have some good showings against Steve as well. I don't think the skill gap is too far apart. Not sure about punisher vs black widow. I think punisher is more skilled (from what I have seen of black widows skill at least) and is tougher but black widow should have the physical edge. I think Shang chi should edge out elektra with his current nunchucks. They seem to have some area of effect to them and I think thats his edge. Nothing to big but I think there pretty even in terms of skill, speed and other areas but I would say shang chi is better armed to the point it will allow him to win.

#11 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7723 posts) - - Show Bio

What's so great about current Deadpool ?

#12 Edited by Saren (26022 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

Not sure about punisher vs black widow. I think punisher is more skilled (from what I have seen of black widows skill at least) and is tougher but black widow should have the physical edge.

In War Zone, Natasha said Castle was stronger than her, while she was faster than him.

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#13 Edited by TDK_1997 (15084 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@tdk_1997 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@tdk_1997 said:

If Deadpool is serious about this fight he has a big chance of defeating Captain America.While I think Punisher will take out Black Widow also but with some little problems.I am not sure about the last fight,I think Shang Chi may defeat Elektra but in the end he will go against Punisher and Deadpool and in the end the Thunderbolts will come out victorious.

He's in character. So, no, odds are he isn't serious right off the bat.

Well then I think Thunderbolts get this 7/10.Deadpool can outclass Steve in a fight in my opinion.While the others handle their own enemies.

Por que?

Well he has some good feats and when he wants to fight seriously,he is really hard to stop.Cap is also one of the best fighters in Marvel but in here when Wade is serious and with his healing factor he will keep on fighting no matter the injuries until he wins.Punisher is a good fighter also and he has the physical advantage over Widow,he is far stronger than him but she is faster.But I still think he can defeat her.

Elektra vs. Shang Chi is the only battle that I cannot imagine in my head.I have no idea how it will go.

#14 Edited by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

Thunderbolts

#15 Posted by schillenger420 (821 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool is deadlier and with his standard gear is more versatile than Cap, that combined with his healing factor I believe will give him the win. After that he manages to take out whoever's left on the side of the Avengers. Shang Chi and Widow can win their fights, but if they do it's not without taking damage.... damage they can't heal from before Deadpool kills them. Winner, Thunderbolts. All this of course hinges on Captain America losing to Deadpool. If on the other hand Cap wins that fight (and hey, let's face it that's entirely possible) than he goes on to take out both Punisher and Elektra.

#16 Edited by robertloucksjr (1803 posts) - - Show Bio

Elektra's is being underrated here with her low level TK, silent scream, and ninja voodoo.

#17 Edited by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

What has Elektra done recently? I love the character to death, but it seems Marvel forgets she exists. I just remember that I stopped reading Thunderbolt when Elektra needed Deadpool to save her against a couple of soldiers :/

#18 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio
@jashro44 said:

I think this could go either way. I agree with the majority consensus that deadpool would beat Rogers. Rogers is more skilled however deadpools healing factor makes him hard to drop and he does have some good showings against Steve as well. I don't think the skill gap is too far apart. Not sure about punisher vs black widow. I think punisher is more skilled (from what I have seen of black widows skill at least) and is tougher but black widow should have the physical edge. I think Shang chi should edge out elektra with his current nunchucks. They seem to have some area of effect to them and I think thats his edge. Nothing to big but I think there pretty even in terms of skill, speed and other areas but I would say shang chi is better armed to the point it will allow him to win.

This.

#19 Posted by jashro44 (23742 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

Not sure about punisher vs black widow. I think punisher is more skilled (from what I have seen of black widows skill at least) and is tougher but black widow should have the physical edge.

In War Zone, Natasha said Castle was stronger than her, while she was faster than him.

Yea but I feel that statement was a bit weird. Black widow is suppose to be enhanced. This is the only feat I have seen which probably indicates she is stronger then punisher where she kills some guy in one hit. I am mainly giving her the physical edge because of her on paper stats though.

#20 Posted by Jonez120 (5005 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool and Captain America HAVE fought before. Steve was winning.

40 ft apart and standard gear? Punisher pumps Shang Chi with 50 lbs of lead.

Elektra is superior to Black Widow in close to every aspect except for marksmanship. If Elektra can close the gap between her and Widow using the arcade games for cover, she takes a solid majority against Widow.

I'm sorry but Avengers take this 7.8/10 Punisher is a threat to them alone due to his standard gear and their starting distance.

#21 Posted by One_Tooth_Pianist (72 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool can beat Captain America

#22 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (7657 posts) - - Show Bio

Thunderbolts

#23 Posted by k4tzm4n (51097 posts) - - Show Bio

That's another old thread of mine that has been bumped today. Slow day, eh?

#24 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20427 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonez120 said:

Deadpool and Captain America HAVE fought before. Steve was winning.

Do you have scans? Deadpool has stalemated Captain America before and was able to hold his own against Tiamat, who stomped Captain America in a mech that enhanced his abilities.

#25 Posted by Theindiedudes (219 posts) - - Show Bio

Thunderboltz although if this was the thunderboltz from the thunderboltz series then I think it would be a much more interesting fight

#26 Posted by chaos911 (2907 posts) - - Show Bio

@theindiedudes: is there a difference between the thunderbolts and the thunderboltz? Cause this is that team minus some members

#27 Posted by chaos911 (2907 posts) - - Show Bio

Thunderbolts win because of reasons already stated