Thought Robot Superman vs Ben Tennyson

@stormsight: If you are a fan of Morrison's work it all makes perfect sense

alien x

Alien X

Thought Robot wins

Alien X has a few weaknesses.

1. He didn't copy the universal the exact way it was it was stated during Ben 10 Vs the Universe.

2.the big bang he held was Universe+ Level

3. Only if Ben has control!

4. Alien X can be killed by draining its energy.

5. Absorbing energy type beings can obtain a baby's Celestialsapien "Omnipotence"

Where

Thought Robot

1. Survive what 10 billion suns and the blood of 52 universes?

2. Is a plot device/plot shield.

3. He fought mandraak near the paper of where everything is created.

Yeah TR wins.

TR

Alien X's only real feat was effortless, it's pointless to try and extrapolate his potential. He could very well be multiversal, the only problem is that he rarely ever shows up.

This fight should be a tie until either fighter has demonstrated their limits.

Alien X is only universal. It might be low multiversal at best. That's not enough to win this fight.

You're assuming that his universal feat is all he's capable of, which isn't correct. The episode shows that his universal feat took practically no effort on his part whatsoever.

As I stated before, this battle is flawed in concept because Alien X's limits aren't known. Celestialsapien newborns are low-universal in terms of power, so assumptions are worthless here.

@mrunsmiley: It doesn't matter because that's the feat it's shown. You can't assume it just jumps to high-end multiversal just because its lone feat was done with no effort.

By the same token, you can't assume that the one feat he showed was the extent of his power. Common sense dictates that a character that recreates a universe from memory and has no fatigue from it whatsoever is above the universal level, and I said nothing about high-end multiversal.

He tanked a universal-level attack with no damage, and warps time and space easily. Maybe Thought Robot can pull out a multi-universal attack and wound Alien X, but that is an extremely big if. Assuming he accomplishes even that, Alien X can effortlessly bend the events of time so that he never took the attack in the first place. These are what Alien X is capable of, and unless Thought Robot is massively more powerful than what I've been led to believe, making a judgment in either direction is pointless, though if I had to choose I'd choose Alien X.

@empty_hand said:

@hewho: The writter stated that Alien x can destroy the omniverse. So isn't overrated

@atomix said:

@hewho: The writter stated that Alien x can destroy the omniverse. So isn't overrated

Yeah six thoughts which before the fight starts it would be TR beating the crap out of him.

@empty_hand: Though Robot can be dameged by the blood of 10 billions of suns

Alien x can destroy him with his omniversal attacks

@atomix: Multiverse not omniverse.....either way TR still wins.

@empty_hand: Derrick says that he can destroy the omniverse. And why TR wins?

@atomix: There are no feats to back up that author's claim. "Omniverse" is the example used to demonstrate "hyperbole" in the dictionary.

Alien X, maybe is only with me but TR never looks multiversal

He was referring to the Multiverse part not the omniverse.

Alien X loses also.....

Nope, Alien X is omnipotent he stomps

He isnt even close if he can die by having his energy drained.

Alien X Stomps with ease.

@hewho: Omniverse are all the universe

By yuor logic Thought Robot loses because has no feats to claim that is multiversal

@empty_hand: No the writter would have specified that Alien x can destrory only the multiverse but he didn't

And I reapeat it for the last time only a baby celestialsapien can be drained

Cosmic armor Supes

For all those who think CA Superman was not multiversal cuz they do not understand Grant Morrison's context that it's in, here is proof that he is Multiversal

The Thought Robot existed and fought in monitor space, which is is one of the highest dimensions of Grant Morrison's multiversal cosmology

As seen in Grant Morrison's DC Multiverse map, Limbo is the space which contains the God Realms, and the 52 Universes. Thought Robot Superman existed in the "Monitor Sphere" or Monitor space which contains Limbo, this is why he could hold Limbo on his finger and observe it, and Limbo contains everyhing like the the 52 Universes, the Sphere of the Gods etc

In Final Crisis Cosmic Armor Superman awakens in the Monitor Space, the space which contains Limbo. Cosmic Armor Superman then holds the sum totality of Limbo(which contains 52 Universes etc) on his finger tip

TR

Alien X is only about Universal by actual feats. Thought Robot wins.

Thought Robot disgustingly curb stomps that whiny child.

Cosmic Armor. How is this even a debate .... ?

People read the comics, the ignorance is mind blowing.

Thought Robot, just like with all reality warpers, Alien X has to think before he does anything, even if they could think at light speed(They can't), it still wouldn't be enough, as The Thought Robot can counter any future threat in an *instant*, so I'm pretty sure he could take out Alien X before he had the time to think of a single thing .

TR due to being able to adapt to Alien X's power level and manipulate the plot to make him stronger.

TR Supes erases the kid.

Alien X is anywhere between Universe to low Multi-Universe level, while TR Supes transcends on several repetitions of superior to superior levels of existence greater than Metaverse/Hyperverse/Megaverse level Multiverses.

The Sphere of the Gods is massive since Heaven and Hell (that it contains) are Infinite Multiverses that contain a Universe/Heaven/Hell one, tailed for a certain for every soul on Earth. That includes potential souls from countless Infinite X Infinite Earths that can come from Hypertime/Metaverse within Bleed Space and there are infinite Branes, each with Infinite Universes and each Universe has infinite varities of each of those Infinite Universes that each Universe quantum mulitplies and duplicates itself into infinity every infinitesimal non moment creating new Higher Dimensional Multiverses.

Nothing short of High End Abstract Level characters can stalemate or defeat TR.

Superman blinks the overrated piece of black garbage out of existance.

Give a reason.

Thought Robot has plot manipulation so I'm going with him.

Thought robot

lol wtf was this sh*t bumped

Alien X wank was insane back then lmao

Im not surprised. CV downplayed TRS a lot, now it's not as bad. People think IG Thanos or Giorno beat TRS lmao

I remember seeing the GER vs CAS thread after it was bumped lmao people were actually arguing for GER to win

Alien X stalemates.

Celestialsapiens best feat is redesigning entire Franchise for at least 4 times. BEN 10 Omniverse has infinite Universes, Multiverses, Megaverses, Hyperverses, Dimensions, Timelines etc......And also Following Real life Bosonic String Theory.We all know Bosonic String theory has 26 Space Time dimensions. They changed the ART STYLE, PLOT, CONTINUITY, RETCONS, VOICE ACTORS, etc...... That's OMNIVERSAL MANIPULATION FEATS RIGHT THERE.

They're both High Outerversal, so stalemate.

TR stomps

Unless someone actually provides me an actual feats of Alien X being outerversal level other than mere statements all because writers keeps on changing their opinions, Thought Robot beat this over rated no good for nothing Celestialsapien.

@godsvileanddarkwing:

Alien X stalemates.

Celestialsapiens best feat is redesigning entire Franchise for at least 4 times. BEN 10 Omniverse has infinite Universes, Multiverses, Megaverses, Hyperverses, Dimensions, Timelines etc......And also Following Real life Bosonic String Theory.We all know Bosonic String theory has 26 Space Time dimensions. They changed the ART STYLE, PLOT, CONTINUITY, RETCONS, VOICE ACTORS, etc...... That's OMNIVERSAL MANIPULATION FEATS RIGHT THERE.

They're both High Outerversal, so stalemate.

@animefreak1 said:

@godsvileanddarkwing:

Alien X stalemates.

Celestialsapiens best feat is redesigning entire Franchise for at least 4 times. BEN 10 Omniverse has infinite Universes, Multiverses, Megaverses, Hyperverses, Dimensions, Timelines etc......And also Following Real life Bosonic String Theory.We all know Bosonic String theory has 26 Space Time dimensions. They changed the ART STYLE, PLOT, CONTINUITY, RETCONS, VOICE ACTORS, etc...... That's OMNIVERSAL MANIPULATION FEATS RIGHT THERE.

They're both High Outerversal, so stalemate.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_X

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Thought_Robot

Alien X is only multiverse level.