War Machine and Hulk are complete non-factors here. Nova and Thor die horribly unless it's that awesome shadow crown Nova Prime and Rune King Thor, but even then it would be a tough fight.
" War Machine and Hulk are complete non-factors here. Nova and Thor die horribly unless it's that awesome shadow crown Nova Prime and Rune King Thor, but even then it would be a tough fight. "
" War Machine and Hulk are complete non-factors here. Nova and Thor die horribly unless it's that awesome shadow crown Nova Prime and Rune King Thor, but even then it would be a tough fight. "
Crown Nova Prime wasn't that strong. Steve was able to fight him with the Nova Force, and he had ZERO experience with that power. So I don't get where people think he's that powerful.
"War Machine and Hulk are complete non-factors here. Nova and Thor die horribly unless it's that awesome shadow crown Nova Prime and Rune King Thor, but even then it would be a tough fight. "
"War Machine and Hulk are complete non-factors here. Nova and Thor die horribly unless it's that awesome shadow crown Nova Prime and Rune King Thor, but even then it would be a tough fight. "
@JediXMan: Well, rodgers took the entire nova force, stripping it from richard. thats why they were able to fight on such even ground. Crown Nova Prime (which is a pretty awesome concept) was very powerful until he lost the nova force. But he wasn't really around long enough for their to really be any feats.
" @JediXMan: Well, rodgers took the entire nova force, stripping it from richard. thats why they were able to fight on such even ground. Crown Nova Prime (which is a pretty awesome concept) was very powerful until he lost the nova force. But he wasn't really around long enough for their to really be any feats. "
Didn't think he had the Nova Force once the Crown took him. The Worldmind basically made Steve Nova Prime by giving him all of that power.
" @JediXMan: Well, rodgers took the entire nova force, stripping it from richard. thats why they were able to fight on such even ground. Crown Nova Prime (which is a pretty awesome concept) was very powerful until he lost the nova force. But he wasn't really around long enough for their to really be any feats. "
Didn't think he had the Nova Force once the Crown took him. The Worldmind basically made Steve Nova Prime by giving him all of that power. "
Thats what I thought. When was Nova in control of both?
@JediXMan: the guardian was built to handle anyone who gained control of a serpent crown, but he was easily crushed by Rider. I assumed it was because the Nova Force worked with the serpent crown to give richard much more power then the guardian could handle. that explains why Rider fell out of the sky when Rodgers put on the helmet, because the worldmind redistributed all of the nova force into Steve and took it all from Richard
" @JediXMan: the guardian was built to handle anyone who gained control of a serpent crown, but he was easily crushed by Rider. I assumed it was because the Nova Force worked with the serpent crown to give richard much more power then the guardian could handle. that explains why Rider fell out of the sky when Rodgers put on the helmet, because the worldmind redistributed all of the nova force into Steve and took it all from Richard "
I never saw any of that; once the Crown took him, the helmet (Worldmind) was removed, as was the Nova Force.
Pretty sure that was all the Crown's power. Also, this wouldn't be the first time that a device created to stop _____ failed.
@Sexy Merc: Man, Nova Prime is powerful, but seriously he can't win against Superboy Prime: http://www.comicvine.com/superboy-prime/29-40756/ http://www.comicvine.com/nova/29-2105/
" @JediXMan: then why did rider fall out of the sky when steve put the helmet on? "
1. Don't remember that at all. 2. He was able to fly when they fought, so he did not lose any powers. 3. If he did fall, I don't see the connection. I believe there was more to it than that.
@JediXMan: i just reread secret avengers 3 and 4. the guardian specifically stated that Rider had more power then just the shadow crown, meaning the Nova Force. Then world mind transferred all of the nova force into steve, the moment it happened Nova fell out of the sky. Nova took flight again so i'm guessing the loss of the Nova Force rattled him enough to knock him out of the air, despite still being able to fly. The only reason steve won is because steve managed to get the crown off after the link had been severed. take it how you will, but the fact that Crown Nova brought down the Guardian with one hit means he was far more powerful then just the serpent crown's power.
" War Machine and Hulk are complete non-factors here. Nova and Thor die horribly unless it's that awesome shadow crown Nova Prime and Rune King Thor, but even then it would be a tough fight. "
Crown Nova Prime wasn't that strong. Steve was able to fight him with the Nova Force, and he had ZERO experience with that power. So I don't get where people think he's that powerful. Oh and Prime wins with ease. "
He lost the Nova Force when Steve took it into himself and even showed that greatly weakened him. He was still knocking Steve around despite the loss in power, but that's not saying much.
@Full_Spectrum: Yeah I'm pretty sure you are right actually. Well said. I'll have to take a look at those issues again but I believe you are correct.
@Hellos said:
He lost the Nova Force when Steve took it into himself and even showed that greatly weakened him. He was still knocking Steve around despite the loss in power, but that's not saying much.
"War Machine and Hulk are complete non-factors here. Nova and Thor die horribly unless it's that awesome shadow crown Nova Prime and Rune King Thor, but even then it would be a tough fight. "
@Thor's hammmer: not even close prime survive a universe buster being more boy prime than man prime having like less than 1% of guardian power or something and superboy prime was also got caughtin the war world(galaxy buster) along with AM and cyborg superman and survive it without a problem
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