Diana does this to him:
Just kidding, but Thor shouldn't be capable of reacting to her.
Thor vs Wonder Woman (New 52)
@borburison14 said:
Actually I am gauging Thor reasonably. I'm dead serious when I say the DC Powerhouses are a cake walk for him. Thor has better, lifting and striking feats than all of the DC powerhouses and that includes Superman, Shazam, etc..... if you dispute this, offer some feats and i'll offer mine.
And he isn't slightly above Wonder woman in terms of strength and durability he is VASTLY superior to Wonder Woman. New 52 Wonder Womans best feat is lifting a helicopter. A HELICOPTER. How do you compare that to Thor, who has lifted Planetary weights and beyond. And people constantly downplay Thor's speed like he is slow. Thor is capable of moving 5,000 times the speed of light. How is that slow? show me where Wonder Woman has even moved a quarter of that speed.
Wonder Woman would give Thor a tough battle but Thor is still vastly superior in terms of strength, speed and durability. I'm sick of people downplaying Thor when in actuality Thor is more powerful than every DC powerhouse no matter how you look at it.
>says N52 WW best feat is lifting is lifting a heli
LOL get out of here...please...
Now I can fully admit I probably have overestimated n52 WW's strength feats (and to be truthful, I got a bad tendency of not separating old and new WW because Im still not all that familiar with her new incarnation.) , although there has been only very few instances of her performing lifting feats to be honest. So when compared to other powerhouses like Thor, I fully recognize it can make her look a little pale currently.
However her regular striking feats against 60+tonners and class 100+tonners should help with gauging her strength levels much better. But that is besides the point anyway since I already stated that Thor wins in the strength and durability department in my firsvt post.
What I argued is that with her lasso of truth, cuffs and various paraphernilia AND speed she could prove a tough match against a hammerless Thor (which he was for a few months recently). There are plenty of examples of n52 WW doing speed blitz attacks, as well as deflecting blows and projectiles at superspeed.
Thor has average peak human combat speed, and we all know it. It is only through his hammer that he can fly at FTL+ speed, do superspeed charges or FTL hammer throws. Show me a scan of Thor moving at high speed without his hammer, or of him blitzing anyone H2H or with another weapon than Mjolnir.
WW clearly has the overall speed advantage and trying to take that away from her in a battle against an opponent that outclasses her in strength & durability seems pretty unfair and unnecessary.
My argument was and still is that a hammerless Thor would be in serious trouble against a fully equipped n52 WW...and a hammer wielding Thor should still be careful not to underestimate her as her lasso and deflecting cuffs could cause him some difficulty even with mjolnir.
Without the speed/blitzing advantage, she would be far less of a danger to Thor. That is why trying to take that away from her is just lame, because she will be quite dependent on it during the confrontation.
I dont even like WW very much and I am definitely much more of a Thor fan myself, but theres no need to severely downplay his battle opponents, especially the new52 just because they only have 4 years worth of feats.
If you are that unfamiliar with n52 WW and JLA feats, just google them or check various respect threads to see why calling them cakewalk comes across as fairly ignorant or trollish...
@mcdavid said:
@borburison14 said:
Actually I am gauging Thor reasonably. I'm dead serious when I say the DC Powerhouses are a cake walk for him. Thor has better, lifting and striking feats than all of the DC powerhouses and that includes Superman, Shazam, etc..... if you dispute this, offer some feats and i'll offer mine.
And he isn't slightly above Wonder woman in terms of strength and durability he is VASTLY superior to Wonder Woman. New 52 Wonder Womans best feat is lifting a helicopter. A HELICOPTER. How do you compare that to Thor, who has lifted Planetary weights and beyond. And people constantly downplay Thor's speed like he is slow. Thor is capable of moving 5,000 times the speed of light. How is that slow? show me where Wonder Woman has even moved a quarter of that speed.
Wonder Woman would give Thor a tough battle but Thor is still vastly superior in terms of strength, speed and durability. I'm sick of people downplaying Thor when in actuality Thor is more powerful than every DC powerhouse no matter how you look at it.
>says N52 WW best feat is lifting is lifting a heli
LOL get out of here...please...
Now I can fully admit I probably have overestimated n52 WW's strength feats (and to be truthful, I got a bad tendency of not separating old and new WW because Im still not all that familiar with her new incarnation.) , although there has been only very few instances of her performing lifting feats to be honest. So when compared to other powerhouses like Thor, I fully recognize it can make her look a little pale currently.
However her regular striking feats against 60+tonners and class 100+tonners should help with gauging her strength levels much better. But that is besides the point anyway since I already stated that Thor wins in the strength and durability department in my firsvt post.
What I argued is that with her lasso of truth, cuffs and various paraphernilia AND speed she could prove a tough match against a hammerless Thor (which he was for a few months recently). There are plenty of examples of n52 WW doing speed blitz attacks, as well as deflecting blows and projectiles at superspeed.
Thor has average peak human combat speed, and we all know it. It is only through his hammer that he can fly at FTL+ speed, do superspeed charges or FTL hammer throws. Show me a scan of Thor moving at high speed without his hammer, or of him blitzing anyone H2H or with another weapon than Mjolnir.
WW clearly has the overall speed advantage and trying to take that away from her in a battle against an opponent that outclasses her in strength & durability seems pretty unfair and unnecessary.
My argument was and still is that a hammerless Thor would be in serious trouble against a fully equipped n52 WW...and a hammer wielding Thor should still be careful not to underestimate her as her lasso and deflecting cuffs could cause him some difficulty even with mjolnir.
Without the speed/blitzing advantage, she would be far less of a danger to Thor. That is why trying to take that away from her is just lame, because she will be quite dependent on it during the confrontation.
I dont even like WW very much and I am definitely much more of a Thor fan myself, but theres no need to severely downplay his battle opponents, especially the new52 just because they only have 4 years worth of feats.
If you are that unfamiliar with n52 WW and JLA feats, just google them or check various respect threads to see why calling them cakewalk comes across as fairly ignorant or trollish...
So she punched a few people. Okay. The only one of those feats I consider good is her damaging Darkseid.
Okay I respect your opinion but why do you say a "Hammerless Thor"? taking away Thor's hammer is like taking away the sun from superman. Thor looses a majority of his power without Mjolnir so I don't understand why you keep saying a Hammerless Thor . And while Thor's combat Speed is slow without Mjolnir, his REACTION speed isn't. Thor has reacted to Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Hyperion, Sentry, easily struck down Quicksilver etc.. Thor isn't slow. With Mjolnir Thor is much faster than Wonder woman and without it, he still has his Reaction speed time. If Thor can react to Silver Surfer, there is no way Wonder Woman would speed blitz Thor.
And I am dead serious when I mean its a cake walk. I mean you say your a Thor fan right? I mean have you seen the Gorr storyline? the mere shockwaves of Thor's blows were actually destroying planetoids around them. The SHOCKWAVES. Thor even made the SOLAR SYSTEM shake when he was hitting the God Bomb with all his might. Thor even threw a STAR at the god bomb. Man I mean come on the dude threw a god dam SUN. Not even Superman comes close to that kind of strength. I mean Wonder Woman and Superman are around the same level when it comes to strength, durability etc... alright lets compare: When Superman was punching H'el the shockwaves shook the planet. When Thor was hitting the God Bomb he shook the solar system and the shockwaves from him hitting Gorr were actually destroying planets and moons around him. Superman moved half of Braniac's ship which dwarfed Earth. Thor pushed the WorldEngine against the Yggdrasil tree and the NINE REALMS. So Thor is essentially pushing the NINE REALMS or nine planets. Superman benched Earth for 5 days, Thor threw a friggin SUN. If Superman can do what he did, then Wonder Woman is not far behind that, but as you can see, Thor freaking demolishes Supermans feats with his own. And you should be glad I am only using MODERN Thor...... if I used Silver Age feats, Superman and Wonder Woman would have no hope at all. And I only listed SOME strength feats and I didn't even use ONE durability feat. You should know by now that none of New 52 Wonder Woman or Supermans feats even come close to the ones I listed. I know it would be hard to believe but its fact. Thor is just that much tougher than the DC Powerhouses. And that includes Superman and Wonder Woman
@chimeroid said:
WW wins.. Her fighting skills and speed feets are insane.. She actually used her sword to take on Zods eyebeam attack and then tag Faora on the cheek with superheated blade since Superman decided they wont kill the kryptonians.
Thor fans are so annoying... only one in 15 gives a mediocre response.. Mostly they just put down - thor stomps.. Hulk smash... Potatoes potate...
What's WW's sword going to do a guy who survives a supernova?
Thor shows Diana what a real god is capable of:
GG, no re.
@mcdavid: I don't really see why people think his hammer is the greatest of things. The only thing it allowed him was greater energy projection, without it this fight is just their fighting skills, their strength, durability, etc.... and all of those are still in-tact for Thor without Mjolnir.
And for anyone who claims Wonder Woman's flight is a factor, I refute with this.
Thor summons and rides a Space Shark, your argument is invalid.
And Thor is wholly capable of reacting to Wonder Woman's speed, unlike what people seem to think if they know nothing about Thor, he can certainly react at FTL speeds, and has the senses to track objects going many times the speed of light. Ergo, he's fully capable of reacting to them. The only time he's portrayed as not being capable of doing that is outside of his own comics.
And when it comes to strength and durability, well, I think that's clear enough who takes it.
It's not an utter stomp, no, Thor's morals are still on and he holds back to an incredible degree against women, more so than he does at any other time, but Thor still wins unquestionably, as he only holds back enough so he doesn't brutally murder her.
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