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#1 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Thor ( vs Team Superman (Pyrogram)

Thor ( no odin force or upgrades ) Vs Golden Age Superman

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King Thor vs Pre-52 superman

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Rune King Vs Superman Prime

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Winners then have a duel to the death.

Rules are as follows:

- Battle takes place in ruins of Asgard

- Each team has one day of prep

- Uses of the Destroyer Armour, Odin Sword and Belt of Strength , as well as one Blood Lusted Thor.- for all but first fight with golden age.

- King Thor and Rune King Thor come equipped with Odin Force, Runes for RKT

- Odin Feats or below count for Rune King Thor, as well as his owns; those that do not are thors who have not demonstrated that level of power with the Odin Force.

All superman are sun dipped for one month

- Battle starts from 25 miles

- Morals off

- Blood lusted

:)

#2 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

You start.

#3 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Why me xD

#4 Edited by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Beacuse I said so :)

Let's start with the first round, then second etc... To make this easier. So its Thor vs Golden age now.

#5 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

How about a decent debate about each one? >.>

#6 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Yes <.<

#7 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

kay >.>

#8 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Start whenever your ready :)

#9 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio
Here we see Thor resist a HUGGE gravitational force from Thor#281
Best durability feat I could find for Gee Age Superman was tanking a battleship.
Strength feat for Thor; lifting a train.
Over powering Galactus
He can only go the speed of sound... LOL Thor is as fast as the lightening he controls
He can only lift 20 tons Lol,
#10 Edited by tomlikesfries (4751 posts) - - Show Bio

That's kind of unfair for Superman... Why not use the New 52 Version, instead of Golden Age?

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#11 Edited by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, I will equip King Thor with all my over powers

#12 Edited by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: This is him reacting faster than lighting -

Moving FASTER than a bullet and I think that is faster than sound, but the lighting scan above 100% is.

Lifting a whole ship , heaver than a train -

Or he can hypnotize Thor

Like he does to lois lane.

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Survives being put in lava

#13 Edited by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

That's kind of unfair for Superman... Why not use the New 52 Version, instead of Golden Age?

I want to do it this way :) I wana see how strong golden can compare :P And its who debates better, not who wins.

#14 Posted by tomlikesfries (4751 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@tomlikesfries said:

That's kind of unfair for Superman... Why not use the New 52 Version, instead of Golden Age?

I want to do it this way :) I wana see how strong golden can compare :P And its who debates better, not who wins.

Haha, it's your debate, I was only suggesting. Anyway, good luck.

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#15 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries: I know dude, Thanks :P

#16 Edited by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio
Again, Thor turns back time; countering his mind control powers.
Power to destroy mountains! Superior to your Superman! =P
Has the reaction to punch and whirl around(a microsecond) and catch his mallet.
#17 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Great thread!

fight one THOR

fight two Superman

fight three Superman prime

#18 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor => Superman Reaction

Thor => Superman Strength

Thor => Superman Speed

How can he win?

#19 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: These feats all show how fast he is -

Out racing a plane going 250 MPH

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Speeds up to a plane instantly -

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These are stupid fast that Thor could never perform -

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So fast he is invisible

Speeds around the world in a few seconds

Without being tired.

#20 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright, I've yet to see something that shows Golden Gee can go faster than mac 3; somehow I disbelieve it. Thor can travel faster than the light he carries. Also strength,simply battling can break mountains; which is far superior than anything I've seen. And durability? Can sit in a sun, Golden Gee can't even go out of orbit!

So what's to stop Thor from:

a) Speed blitzing him

b) Grabbing him and having his way with him! Lol

c) Or sit and tank hits until he's finally bored?

His mallet commingled with his superior stats solidify him this battle.

#21 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird said:

Alright, I've yet to see something that shows Golden Gee can go faster than mac 3; somehow I disbelieve it. Thor can travel faster than the light he carries. Also strength,simply battling can break mountains; which is far superior than anything I've seen. And durability? Can sit in a sun, Golden Gee can't even go out of orbit!

I showed a scan of him going faster then lightning - Golden age sat in lava.

So what's to stop Thor from:

a) Speed blitzing him - Thor has never ever done that, and I proved Thor's combat speed is not as fast as supermans.

b) Grabbing him and having his way with him! Lol - He would have to catch him first and no combat speed shows he can.

c) Or sit and tank hits until he's finally bored?

His mallet commingled with his superior stats solidify him this battle.

Lifting up a Mountain as you said Thor has done - In this he causes an avalanche.

Lifts a tank with 1 arm -

So, what is stopping Supes speed blitzing Thor?

#22 Edited by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

You cannot argue that this version of Superman isn't faster than light; he isnt. Thor's hammer would out pace him. @Pyrogram said:

@Alyssabird said:

Alright, I've yet to see something that shows Golden Gee can go faster than mac 3; somehow I disbelieve it. Thor can travel faster than the light he carries. Also strength,simply battling can break mountains; which is far superior than anything I've seen. And durability? Can sit in a sun, Golden Gee can't even go out of orbit!

I showed a scan of him going faster then lightning - Golden age sat in lava.

So what's to stop Thor from:

a) Speed blitzing him - Thor has never ever done that, and I proved Thor's combat speed is not as fast as supermans.

b) Grabbing him and having his way with him! Lol - He would have to catch him first and no combat speed shows he can.

c) Or sit and tank hits until he's finally bored?

His mallet commingled with his superior stats solidify him this battle.

Lifting up a Mountain as you said Thor has done - In this he causes an avalanche.

Pushing a mountain to cause an avalanche is nothing like, exchanging blows and blowing up mountains. Also, he merely sat in Lava; this vastly pales in comparison to sitting in the center of a sun, or tanking and walking through blasts from Ghost Rider.

Lifts a tank with 1 arm -

So, what is stopping Supes speed blitzing Thor?

Again, see above, Supers Golden age is nowhere near Thor's strength or durability. As for his speed, he's only a few times faster than sound. He is nowhere near Thor in that area. Reaction time? Thor has out reacted people who can trace his bolts; ergo light. So unless Superman can outpace Light; and can fact only react as fast as he can travel, than he falls vastly short to being any real competition to Thor; speed wise and reaction wise. Thor's punches, when met with equal force can open dimensional rifts. Superman is mere 20 ton force. Thor is faster, stronger and more durable.

Speed feat with Mjolnir; catching a missile mid air.

Thor wins in all aspects; cheers.

#23 Edited by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Outpacing lighting is outpacing light...Forget lighting is not the speed of light beacuse of friction etc.. But Supes speed up MUCH faster than it, so he went speed of light, it is an outlier feat but still a feat.

Cheers :P

#24 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: want to go round 2?

#25 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

No, we aren't finished yet, I'm really tired, let me sleep xD ;p After a few more debates, we'll call in the votes for the first round <3

#26 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: ok :)

#27 Posted by Nightflash (713 posts) - - Show Bio

round 1 thor

round 2 thor

round 3 superman

#28 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Alyssabird: Outpacing lighting is outpacing light...Forget lighting is not the speed of light beacuse of friction etc.. But Supes speed up MUCH faster than it, so he went speed of light, it is an outlier feat but still a feat.

Cheers :P

Golden May have SOL reaction time, but he certainty can't outpace light. Thor however can, he's as fast as the lightening he controls, and his travel speed can greatly exceeds light, his hammer, greatly exceeds even this. Thor is more durable, by quite a stretch, can react at an equal speed, his hammer and flight can go even faster, is far stronger; as shown, this is basically a spite.

#29 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: I will reply when I have time so I can give a good argument :D

#30 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Alyssabird: I will reply when I have time so I can give a good argument :D

but u suck o.o..

#31 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: 3 hrs and I will batter this debate!

#32 Posted by ascenscion (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Prime 1m absolutely rapes RKT that's the only one i'm going to comment on because my knowledge of GA supes is weak.

Prime 1 mil is purportedly one of the most powerful DC beings, possibly THE most powerful...

#33 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@the same time we know Thor wrecks golden age/ no contest

#34 Posted by randyrhoades16 (12 posts) - - Show Bio

The DC vs. Marvel Crossover has confirmed that Superman can lift Thor's Hammer in a Brief Amount of time. Brief can be an eternity for Superman as his speed rivals that of The Flash. (I know that the argument is primarily Golden Age Superman and Non upgraded Thor, but I figured I should shed light on the subject of what if a fight between the modern versions)

#35 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@randyrhoades16 said:

The DC vs. Marvel Crossover has confirmed that Superman can lift Thor's Hammer in a Brief Amount of time. Brief can be an eternity for Superman as his speed rivals that of The Flash. (I know that the argument is primarily Golden Age Superman and Non upgraded Thor, but I figured I should shed light on the subject of what if a fight between the modern versions)

We are discussing Golden Age Superman feats, NOTHING ELSE!!! tyvm

#36 Posted by randyrhoades16 (12 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Specifically stated that I felt I should shed light on a modern fight, so sorry. But as for Golden Age Superman feats, they kinda have Thor without upgrades outmatched from what I can tell and my knowledge of Golden Age Comics.

#37 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@randyrhoades16 said:

@Alyssabird: Specifically stated that I felt I should shed light on a modern fight, so sorry. But as for Golden Age Superman feats, they kinda have Thor without upgrades outmatched from what I can tell and my knowledge of Golden Age Comics.

Well your wrong! Also, your not in this debate <,<!

#38 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@randyrhoades16 said:

@Alyssabird: Specifically stated that I felt I should shed light on a modern fight, so sorry. But as for Golden Age Superman feats, they kinda have Thor without upgrades outmatched from what I can tell and my knowledge of Golden Age Comics.

Thanks for input but it is is challenge a viner,so its me vs alyssa

#39 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@randyrhoades16 said:

@Alyssabird: Specifically stated that I felt I should shed light on a modern fight, so sorry. But as for Golden Age Superman feats, they kinda have Thor without upgrades outmatched from what I can tell and my knowledge of Golden Age Comics.

Thanks for input but it is is challenge a viner,so its me vs alyssa

Annnnd? WHERES UR ARGUMENT!

#40 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: I cannot do it on this computer, I Pm'd you already :)

#41 Posted by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Alyssabird: I cannot do it on this computer, I Pm'd you already :)

k d;

#42 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: Ok, back to this - round 2 as I have no feats for golden age, so its up to the voters once we have finished all rounds,

Round 2 is - King Thor vs Pre-52 superman , I will start

Now, Flash is able to have a fight with Thor beacuse of Speedblitz, But not end the fight in my opinion due to Thor's durability. Now superman on the other hand > He is VERY powerful and would be able to blitz Thor with immense power.

Speed feats -

Speed blitz a robot -

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Thors lighting would be useless as he sees light move in slow motion with super reaction times.

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A final speedblitz

#43 Edited by Alyssabird (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don't feel like getting into another, Durability > Speed discussion. Regardless, I will debate.

Now, as agreed in the rules, - Uses of the Destroyer Armour, Odin Sword and Belt of Strength , as well as one Blood Lusted Thor.- for all but first fight with golden age. Therefore I will use this now and equip it to King Thor, prior to the fight, Now bear in mind that my King Thor officially has the Destroyer Armour, and is now Blood Lusted in Warriors Madness. His strength is now amplified 10 fold, with increased durability, via Odin Force and WM as well as the Destroyer Armour; King Thor is now able to tank Celestial Level attacks with ease and would utilize his powers to their full potential with the means to kill. From this disregard of morality, I will argue against your speed blitz and nullify it. King Thor activates time freezes and commingled with the DA and other amps, I believe your supermans speed blitz; regardless of how strong he is, would be shrugged off until King Thor activates this power.

King Thor stopping time.
The Destroyer Armour has been shown to stand against celestial entities, as well as battering Thor to his knees; even tanking full powered hits from Thors hammer, to no avail. To be honest, I could see Superman punching himself out to these over powered additions.
#44 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alyssabird: We can debate the speed blitz thing another time, Lets talk about Durability first.

From over 200k miles away he can heat up the WHOLE earth with laser version.

Now imagine this concentrated onto Thor = instant death.

In this fight he is sundipped for 1 month - IMAGINE how strong that must be? So many more times powerful it is unreal. Lets say Sundip is 2x stronger, that is a sunDIP. He has been in the sun for 30 days now, that is a crazy amount of times stronger. Thor would never be able to cope with that.

Imagine these feats JUST 30x stronger, he will be higher than 30 times though, as it is a month of sundip.

In that one he is carrying weight + being exposed to that heat , so durability + strength.

#45 Posted by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

In reality, all 3 rounds go to Superman. Officially GA Superman goes from 1938-1955 and he has some pretty close to SA feats in that time. As for Round 2, Superman definitely wins there due to superior speed and reactions. Rune King Thor actually has feats but I think Superman Prime does too. Anyway I'll keep an eye on this as I'm interested in Pyrogram's debating skills.

#46 Posted by tomlikesfries (4751 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

@Alyssabird: We can debate the speed blitz thing another time, Lets talk about Durability first.

From over 200k miles away he can heat up the WHOLE earth with laser version.

Now imagine this concentrated onto Thor = instant death.

In this fight he is sundipped for 1 month - IMAGINE how strong that must be? So many more times powerful it is unreal. Lets say Sundip is 2x stronger, that is a sunDIP. He has been in the sun for 30 days now, that is a crazy amount of times stronger. Thor would never be able to cope with that.

Imagine these feats JUST 30x stronger, he will be higher than 30 times though, as it is a month of sundip.

In that one he is carrying weight + being exposed to that heat , so durability + strength.

A month of sun dipping makes him a lot stronger than just 30 times.

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#47 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries: What would you say? I do not know much about sundips.

#48 Posted by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: 15 minutes sun dipping and he can effortlessly move Pluto. Plus he managed to move the Earth by himself without sun dipping against Starbreaker's control

Now I know what some may say. "But Hal is helping him too." That's not the case, at least to the eye of the beholder. Let me use an analogy of a chariot

Imagine that Superman represents the horses and the Earth the chariot. All Green Lantern is doing is acting as the reins, providing a means for which Superman to pull the planet. Exerting planet moving force by itself could have devastating consequences to the Earth so Hal is acting as the reins for Superman to pull the Earth.

#49 Posted by Pyrogram (41246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: Thanks for explaining that.

#50 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram: Let me know when its time to vote.