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#1 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always wanted to make a Thor vs Supes thread, and I don't know if there are any like this but I will give it a shot.

Thor without any powers whatsoever vs DCU Superman without any powers whatsoever. They both have normal stats (Olympic level athlete if you need to know) and are fighting to KO. Battle takes place in a UFC octagon. Both combatants are fighting in trunks.

Who takes it?

#2 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes probably.

#3 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

subtlebump

#4 Posted by XiiX (9474 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sethlol said:

Supes probably.

#5 Posted by Sovereign91001 (5027 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman; he's been trained by Batman, Wildcat, Wonder Woman and he knows Kryptonian martial arts.

#6 Posted by XImpossibruX (5253 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sovereign91001 said:

Superman; he's been taught by Batman, Wildcat, Wonder Woman and he knows Kryptonian martial arts.

Fixed*

Training would mean he has gone under years of instruction and learning. Superman definitively has been taught, but he hasn't been trained to the point where martial arts is natural like Wonder Woman or Batman.

#7 Posted by sync1 (2990 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman would win.

He can 1 shot thor.

#8 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

I've heard the argument that Thor has thousands of years of Asgardian fighting styles behind him. No sure if it's true, I'm just being the devil's advocate.

#9 Posted by Pokeysteve (8673 posts) - - Show Bio

Waiting for some one to bust out the one time Supe used pressure points..............

Can't have a Superman vs thread without that scan.

#10 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

Waiting for some one to bust out the one time Supe used pressure points..............

Can't have a Superman vs thread without that scan.

Damn right...

#11 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (901 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sethlol said:

Supes probably.

#12 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sethlol said:

Supes probably.

Vouile

#13 Posted by laflux (17548 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile said:

@Sethlol said:

Supes probably.

Vouile

seconded

#14 Posted by Mr_Ingenuity (7976 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman pressure points

thread/

#15 Posted by superman69 (334 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman has my vote. He showed more superior strength feats than Thor has. I'd say h2h supes has this.

@Sovereign91001 said:

Superman; he's been trained by Batman, Wildcat, Wonder Woman and he knows Kryptonian martial arts.

No.

#16 Posted by Sovereign91001 (5027 posts) - - Show Bio

@superman69: No, what?

#17 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

I've heard the argument that Thor has thousands of years of Asgardian fighting styles behind him. No sure if it's true, I'm just being the devil's advocate.

It's definitely true...he is a God, and God lives forever...

he probably had thousands of years of training before Kal-El 's ancestors even born.

@sync1 said:

Superman would win.

He can 1 shot thor.

How the hell on Earth can he one shot Thor? with pressure point? There is no way Supes can use his Kryptonian Martial arts to beat a man with Thousands of years of experience in Combat....

@N0tS0An0nym0us:

And Thor was depowered in all these fights....and he is capable of training someone, not just showed them...

he is so versatile, he can uses sword, hands, kicks, sticks, he can even uses defensive weapons such as Cap. America's shield to hit against enemy and save Cap.'s ass....

#18 Edited by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

I've heard the argument that Thor has thousands of years of Asgardian fighting styles behind him. No sure if it's true, I'm just being the devil's advocate.

It's definitely true...he is a God, and God lives forever...

he probably had thousands of years of training before Kal-El 's ancestors even born.

@sync1 said:

Superman would win.

He can 1 shot thor.

How the hell on Earth can he one shot Thor? with pressure point? There is no way Supes can use his Kryptonian Martial arts to beat a man with Thousands of years of experience in Combat....

@N0tS0An0nym0us:

And Thor was depowered in all these fights....and he is capable of training someone, not just showed them...

he is so versatile, he can uses sword, hands, kicks, sticks, he can even uses defensive weapons such as Cap. America's shield to hit against enemy and save Cap.'s ass....

and absolutely none of that is H2H at all....nice melee combat but no H2H at all, all void of use here. Superman with the faster hands, harder hits, better H2H feats.......Thor gets choked by Herc....

#19 Posted by XImpossibruX (5253 posts) - - Show Bio

Pressure Points mutha f**ka

But would they affect an Asgardian like the human body?

#20 Posted by xeon1cs (1481 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean...didn't Superman and Wonder Woman fight in Valhalla for 1000 years? So it's not like this "THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE" somehow puts him vastly ahead of Superman.

#21 Posted by PokemonDefender (237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

I mean...didn't Superman and Wonder Woman fight in Valhalla for 1000 years? So it's not like this "THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE" somehow puts him vastly ahead of Superman.

So? 1000 years of slugging doesn't make you a better fighter.

Most of Supermans fights consist of overpowering the opponent.

Match Superman vs Batman in h2h no powers, 1000 years means nothing.

#22 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman win THIS THREAD...cuz of Fanboygasm...

#23 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

Superman win THIS THREAD...cuz of Fanboygasm...

u mad bro?

#24 Posted by xeon1cs (1481 posts) - - Show Bio

@PokemonDefender said:

@xeon1cs said:

I mean...didn't Superman and Wonder Woman fight in Valhalla for 1000 years? So it's not like this "THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE" somehow puts him vastly ahead of Superman.

So? 1000 years of slugging doesn't make you a better fighter.

Most of Supermans fights consist of overpowering the opponent.

Match Superman vs Batman in h2h no powers, 1000 years means nothing.

Did you even bother to reading the entirety of this thread before replying?

#25 Posted by PokemonDefender (237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

@PokemonDefender said:

@xeon1cs said:

I mean...didn't Superman and Wonder Woman fight in Valhalla for 1000 years? So it's not like this "THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE" somehow puts him vastly ahead of Superman.

So? 1000 years of slugging doesn't make you a better fighter.

Most of Supermans fights consist of overpowering the opponent.

Match Superman vs Batman in h2h no powers, 1000 years means nothing.

Did you even bother to reading the entirety of this thread before replying?

Yes, and it's DC nation as usual.

#26 Posted by xeon1cs (1481 posts) - - Show Bio

@PokemonDefender: Then what was the point of your reply? When it had nothing to do with Batman, and simply that Thor fighting for a thousand years doesn't really matter, since Superman has done the same.

#27 Posted by XImpossibruX (5253 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman would win in a good fight.

#28 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2387 posts) - - Show Bio

<insert random Superman fanboy insult here> Thor takes the win!

#29 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets try and stand up for Thor a bit.

While I think Superman might eventually take it, Thor himself is far from helpless.

Firstly, starting with Bio, which puts Thor skills at 4.

If you are wondering what 4 means in terms of skills, it means you are an experienced combatant. So perhaps not so much below Superman level in skill.

He doesnt have a lot of hand to hand feats but he isnt completely devoid of it either.

Lets try and post some.

Here's Thor fighting few thugs and he has no powers.

Thor 495

Here he shows some combat skill against Erik Masterson

Erik comments oh how good a fighter Thor is without his hammer.

so i am not saying Thor would win, but rather the warrior born part of Thor has been consistent. He has few fighting feats. If however you are looking for Thor hitting a nerve strike you are unlikely to find one because he is a viking born, they dont do nerve strike, they just hammer you to death O_o

#30 Posted by SoA (5247 posts) - - Show Bio

no powers just two dudes fighting ill give it to Thor , a warrior God , over a 30-something who learned some basic maneuvers

#31 Posted by Deadcool (6754 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

I've heard the argument that Thor has thousands of years of Asgardian fighting styles behind him. No sure if it's true, I'm just being the devil's advocate.

Well... Before Mjolnir, Thor fought against Hel's army for 40 days and 40 nights with the help of Volstagg, Farndal, Hogun and Loki, without food or water, then the rest of them get hurt, and Thor continued fighting against Hel's Army for another 40 days and 40 night, and he defeated Hel's Army...

Also he has another feats without uding Mjolnir, once he fought against Hulk without using Mjolnir (they never finished that fight).

And also he has h2h feats when he was depowered.

I don't have those scans... just saying

#32 Posted by SirMethos (1359 posts) - - Show Bio

When he had been de-powered, Thor stalemated Captain America.

Thor is considerably more skilled, and far more experienced.

Add to that, the difference in mindset, which is just another advantage in Thor's favor.

Thor wins.

#33 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

When he had been de-powered, Thor stalemated Captain America.

Thor is considerably more skilled, and far more experienced.

Add to that, the difference in mindset, which is just another advantage in Thor's favor.

Thor wins.

Would you happen to have a issue number for that? I am assuming its in one of the Avengers appearances of Thor which i have not read, i would be interested to read it (not saying i dont believe you, just curious).

#34 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@SirMethos said:

When he had been de-powered, Thor stalemated Captain America.

Thor is considerably more skilled, and far more experienced.

Add to that, the difference in mindset, which is just another advantage in Thor's favor.

Thor wins.

Would you happen to have a issue number for that? I am assuming its in one of the Avengers appearances of Thor which i have not read, i would be interested to read it (not saying i dont believe you, just curious).

id like to see it too....stalemating Steve seems legit.....

#35 Posted by RedLanternSuperman (348 posts) - - Show Bio

........ Thor boxed Captain America to a standstill, he didn't go full out fight him T_T

#36 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@RedLanternSuperman said:

........ Thor boxed Captain America to a standstill, he didn't go full out fight him T_T

still seems pretty legit, fun to watch and whatnot. Who doesn't like a good slugfest huh.

#37 Posted by RedLanternSuperman (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@N0tS0An0nym0us said:

@RedLanternSuperman said:

........ Thor boxed Captain America to a standstill, he didn't go full out fight him T_T

still seems pretty legit, fun to watch and whatnot. Who doesn't like a good slugfest huh.

I guess, but if it was depowered Thor vs Captain America no rules. Steve would destroy Thor in martial arts

#38 Posted by SirMethos (1359 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Sorry, I don't remember the specific issue. It was during one of the times when Thor had been de-powered. There are probably people here on CV who are a lot more into Thor than I am, who can tell you the specific issue.

#39 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

They both have normal stats (Olympic level athlete if you need to know) and are fighting to KO. Battle takes place in a UFC octagon.

If it is not fanboyism, Thor takes this, whether you agree or not.

Wonderwoman can take Supes on H2H and Batman too (I'm not sure).

Now, if it comes to knowledges in martial arts, isn't it that Thor knows every martial arts on Earth + the other worlds (That freaking tree I can't spell the name)?

#40 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

I mean...didn't Superman and Wonder Woman fight in Valhalla for 1000 years? So it's not like this "THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE" somehow puts him vastly ahead of Superman.

yup, they did indeed

#41 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#42 Posted by BigCimmerian (8850 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins, effortless curbstomp. If needed I can provide explanation, but it is quite obvious if you read OP.

#43 Posted by Hksaru (463 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

When he had been de-powered, Thor stalemated Captain America.

Thor is considerably more skilled, and far more experienced.

Add to that, the difference in mindset, which is just another advantage in Thor's favor.

Thor wins.

This

#44 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

Thor wins, effortless curbstomp. If needed I can provide explanation, but it is quite obvious if you read OP.

please provide explanation just for the hell of it?

#45 Posted by Krusnik (64 posts) - - Show Bio

THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE.

#46 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Krusnik said:

THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE.

....very eloquent point, mate

#47 Edited by BigCimmerian (8850 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@BigCimmerian said:

Thor wins, effortless curbstomp. If needed I can provide explanation, but it is quite obvious if you read OP.

please provide explanation just for the hell of it?

OP said they are both depowered, that means that Clark is just regular human with height of 6'3 and weight of around 230 lbs. Depowered Thor is 6'6 and he still retains his Asgardian physiology which means that his weight is 640 lbs. That would put Thor in huge advantage. Depowered Supes is definetely not peak human, he should be athletic at best. Depowered Thor should be considered peak human or even enhanced if you see feats performed by depowered Hercules who is a bit smaller and lighter than Thor. Supes isn't martial artist he is just skilled and like Thor he often fights like brawler, but Thor is warrior god and I know that he doesn't fight very smart, but it is only because he rellies on Mjolnir too much. With clear physical superiority and being more skilled Thor should win this easily.

EDIT - Just realised you are OP lol.

#48 Posted by Krusnik (64 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@Krusnik said:

THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE.

....very eloquent point, mate

A post in the thread caught my eye.

@xeon1cs said:

It's like this "THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE" puts him vastly ahead of Superman.

^That one.^

#49 Posted by BigCimmerian (8850 posts) - - Show Bio

@Krusnik said:

@Jayfournines said:

@Krusnik said:

THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE.

....very eloquent point, mate

A post in the thread caught my eye.

@xeon1cs said:

It's like this "THOR IS A GOD. A GOD OF BATTLE" puts him vastly ahead of Superman.

^That one.^

Well, that guy is right.

#50 Posted by BigCimmerian (8850 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@BigCimmerian said:

Thor wins, effortless curbstomp. If needed I can provide explanation, but it is quite obvious if you read OP.

please provide explanation just for the hell of it?

Do you like my explanation? :)