Thor vs Super Skrull

Thor easily.

Odinson ftw

"Thor easily. "

" @czarny_samael said:

"Thor easily. "

U think classic Thor who hard times against soemone like Wonder Man Could easily beat current SS who can now hold his own in the cosmic big leagues? "

Thor

" Thor 9/10. I gave one to SS for prosperity. "

How come no one mentioned "Bubble in the Brain" in this thread? I was going to do a power skrull and super skrull vs Thor but I'd want this matter resolved first

@vuviper said:

How come no one mentioned "Bubble in the Brain" in this thread? I was going to do a power skrull and super skrull vs Thor but I'd want this matter resolved first

Because Thor is too durable for that to work.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@vuviper said:

How come no one mentioned "Bubble in the Brain" in this thread? I was going to do a power skrull and super skrull vs Thor but I'd want this matter resolved first

Because Thor is too durable for that to work.

How exactly is his brain durable?

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@vuviper said:

How come no one mentioned "Bubble in the Brain" in this thread? I was going to do a power skrull and super skrull vs Thor but I'd want this matter resolved first

Because Thor is too durable for that to work.

I'd imagine it would at least hurt him a lot or interfere with his concentration. I don't know if Thor is so powerful that he would be able to so easily take out Super Skrull with that going on in his head.

With the almighty heavy metal girly hair with the freakin hammer... I say Thor wins thee....

How come no one mentioned "Bubble in the Brain" in this thread? I was going to do a power skrull and super skrull vs Thor but I'd want this matter resolved first

@The_Mayhem_Theory: He's done it before

@The_Mayhem_Theory: He's done it before

@vuviper: @Lance Uppercut: Skrull has never tried that on anyone with superhuman durable. We don't if it'll work or not.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@vuviper: @Lance Uppercut: Skrull has never tried that on anyone with superhuman durable. We don't if it'll work or not.

That's not the answer to the question I asked. Once again, what makes his brain too durable? What concrete proof? Because saying he's never tried it on someone "that durable" is a cop out. Yes, Thor's exterior is physically durable. A) Not impenetrable. B) It doesn't make his organs massively durable to the level you're assuming. So if you can't really provide a reason it wouldn't work...

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@vuviper: @Lance Uppercut: Skrull has never tried that on anyone with superhuman durable. We don't if it'll work or not.

That's not the answer to the question I asked. Once again, what makes his brain too durable? What concrete proof? Because saying he's never tried it on someone "that durable" is a cop out. Yes, Thor's exterior is physically durable. A) Not impenetrable. B) It doesn't make his organs massively durable to the level you're assuming. So if you can't really provide a reason it wouldn't work...

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@vuviper: @Lance Uppercut: Skrull has never tried that on anyone with superhuman durable. We don't if it'll work or not.

That's not the answer to the question I asked. Once again, what makes his brain too durable? What concrete proof? Because saying he's never tried it on someone "that durable" is a cop out. Yes, Thor's exterior is physically durable. A) Not impenetrable. B) It doesn't make his organs massively durable to the level you're assuming. So if you can't really provide a reason it wouldn't work...

Thor isn't Cage - he doesn't have only very durable skin. Try to attack Hulk or Colossus in this way and it also won't work.

I'll quote myself on this since you didn't seem to catch it.

Once again, what makes his brain too durable? What concrete proof?

@Lance Uppercut: I'm not sure what you would consider "concrete proof," since I'm pretty sure there aren't any scans of someone actually attacking Thor's brain directly, but logically characters with superhuman durability need a certain degree of toughness throughout their bodies, otherwise many of the impacts they take from superhumanly strong opponents would just liquefy their organs, even if they didn't damage the skin.

Thor.

@Freefa11 well spoke.

classic thor????!! oh my,,i still have comics from way back with him,feats are like sa superman stuff,this isnt even a fight for classic thor version.

@Lance Uppercut: I'm not sure what you would consider "concrete proof," since I'm pretty sure there aren't any scans of someone actually attacking Thor's brain directly, but logically characters with superhuman durability need a certain degree of toughness throughout their bodies, otherwise many of the impacts they take from superhumanly strong opponents would just liquefy their organs, even if they didn't damage the skin.

@czarny_samael666 said:

Thor isn't Cage - he doesn't have only very durable skin. Try to attack Hulk or Colossus in this way and it also won't work.

I'll quote myself on this since you didn't seem to catch it.

Once again, what makes his brain too durable? What concrete proof?

Thor isn't Cage - he doesn't have only very durable skin. Try to attack Hulk or Colossus in this way and it also won't work.

@czarny_samael666: This isn't a question of seeing it the opposite way. I'm open to being corrected, but you'r blatantly trying to provide something as fact when you have no factual evidence to back it. So my question again - is there any hard fact backing your claim?

@Freefa11 said:

@Lance Uppercut: I'm not sure what you would consider "concrete proof," since I'm pretty sure there aren't any scans of someone actually attacking Thor's brain directly, but logically characters with superhuman durability need a certain degree of toughness throughout their bodies, otherwise many of the impacts they take from superhumanly strong opponents would just liquefy their organs, even if they didn't damage the skin.

But once again - too durable? What does that even mean? I'm not saying there isn't some kind of innate physical advantage to being the organ of a god, but it's not like these organs can't be damaged. Hell, we've seen the opposite of that numerous times. I mean, one of the examples given was Hulk... okay, he's had his eyes poked out and blinded, he's been stabbed, shot through on occasions... Thor's been stabbed, knocked bloody, etc. What even constitutes "too durable?

if classic thor can withstand massive temperatures,being hit by hulk,being crushed by the pressure of a neutron star etc etc, his insides have to be same level durability as his outsides,his brain would,baked,be smashed around inside a ultra hard skull,pop due to pressures,,its not even debateable to think his insides are weak. ????

@czarny_samael666: This isn't a question of seeing it the opposite way. I'm open to being corrected, but you'r blatantly trying to provide something as fact when you have no factual evidence to back it. So my question again - is there any hard fact backing your claim?

@Freefa11 said:

@Lance Uppercut: I'm not sure what you would consider "concrete proof," since I'm pretty sure there aren't any scans of someone actually attacking Thor's brain directly, but logically characters with superhuman durability need a certain degree of toughness throughout their bodies, otherwise many of the impacts they take from superhumanly strong opponents would just liquefy their organs, even if they didn't damage the skin.

But once again - too durable? What does that even mean? I'm not saying there isn't some kind of innate physical advantage to being the organ of a god, but it's not like these organs can't be damaged. Hell, we've seen the opposite of that numerous times. I mean, one of the examples given was Hulk... okay, he's had his eyes poked out and blinded, he's been stabbed, shot through on occasions... Thor's been stabbed, knocked bloody, etc. What even constitutes "too durable?

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@czarny_samael666: This isn't a question of seeing it the opposite way. I'm open to being corrected, but you'r blatantly trying to provide something as fact when you have no factual evidence to back it. So my question again - is there any hard fact backing your claim?

@Freefa11 said:

@Lance Uppercut: I'm not sure what you would consider "concrete proof," since I'm pretty sure there aren't any scans of someone actually attacking Thor's brain directly, but logically characters with superhuman durability need a certain degree of toughness throughout their bodies, otherwise many of the impacts they take from superhumanly strong opponents would just liquefy their organs, even if they didn't damage the skin.

But once again - too durable? What does that even mean? I'm not saying there isn't some kind of innate physical advantage to being the organ of a god, but it's not like these organs can't be damaged. Hell, we've seen the opposite of that numerous times. I mean, one of the examples given was Hulk... okay, he's had his eyes poked out and blinded, he's been stabbed, shot through on occasions... Thor's been stabbed, knocked bloody, etc. What even constitutes "too durable?

It does mean that Thor as a whole being is more durable than "xxx", not that just his skin is more durable than "xxx". Point is that, if Thor can survive some attacks, then You would have to prove that only his skin allowed him to do it, not whole body. If it wasn't said anywhere, then we have to assume that his body is proportional. His muscles are as much more durable than his brain as much Yours/mine are more than ours. In this case it means a lot. It is also pretty much immposible to prove that xxx's brain is durable enough to take "yyy's" attack, since we almost never see direct attacks on brains.

Muscle in itself is actually incredibly dense and injury resistant. Look at houdini for instance. He used to do a trick that allowed him to withstand any blow by tensing his muscles at the exact time to protect his organs. He was actually killed BECAUSE of a surprise blow that managed to damage his organs before he could tense up. So when you're saying that his muscles and organs are proportionally as dense as ours... it still means his organs are MORE vulnerable than the rest of his body. Martial artists have done the same thing. Tensing muscles to withstand blows and protect organs. Because organs are squishy and fragile, Could they be stronger than average? Yeah, they probably are. But it doesn't mean they're so enormously proportionate that they're completely immune to injury. And unfortunately, Thor isn't one of those who can survive for prolonged periods without his organs (as opposed to someone like Juggernaut, who's survived without EVERY major organ system in his body.)

Thor wins easily. Stronger, faster, more durable, and a much, much more diverse powerset that contains many abilities that he could use to one-shot SS.

m99

@czarny_samael666 said:

It does mean that Thor as a whole being is more durable than "xxx", not that just his skin is more durable than "xxx". Point is that, if Thor can survive some attacks, then You would have to prove that only his skin allowed him to do it, not whole body. If it wasn't said anywhere, then we have to assume that his body is proportional. His muscles are as much more durable than his brain as much Yours/mine are more than ours. In this case it means a lot. It is also pretty much immposible to prove that xxx's brain is durable enough to take "yyy's" attack, since we almost never see direct attacks on brains.

Muscle in itself is actually incredibly dense and injury resistant. Look at houdini for instance. He used to do a trick that allowed him to withstand any blow by tensing his muscles at the exact time to protect his organs. He was actually killed BECAUSE of a surprise blow that managed to damage his organs before he could tense up. So when you're saying that his muscles and organs are proportionally as dense as ours... it still means his organs are MORE vulnerable than the rest of his body. Martial artists have done the same thing. Tensing muscles to withstand blows and protect organs. Because organs are squishy and fragile, Could they be stronger than average? Yeah, they probably are. But it doesn't mean they're so enormously proportionate that they're completely immune to injury. And unfortunately, Thor isn't one of those who can survive for prolonged periods without his organs (as opposed to someone like Juggernaut, who's survived without EVERY major organ system in his body.)

@czarny_samael666: He's saying that we are not equally durable all around so if Thor's durability is proportional to ours his bones>muscle>organs or w/e. That's why he says you can't just say his brain is as durable as his skin or muscle have been shown to be and why he ask for proof that his organs would be durable enough to be impervious to force fields.

@vuviper said:

@czarny_samael666: He's saying that we are not equally durable all around so if Thor's durability is proportional to ours his bones>muscle>organs or w/e. That's why he says you can't just say his brain is as durable as his skin or muscle have been shown to be and why he ask for proof that his organs would be durable enough to be impervious to force fields.

Thanks for saving me half an hour :D

There's no difference between Classic and Modern Thor....Classic feats are still canon.

m99

Im gonna be nice and go for ss

@majestic99 said:

There's no difference between Classic and Modern Thor....Classic feats are still canon.

m99

Character interpretations change over time. Those feats might still be canon, but that doesn't mean they represent Thor's power levels today.

Yeah, as far as I'm aware of, the Super Skrull still has the composite powers of the original Fantastic Four. The Thing, back then, could only press about 5 tons.

Thor should take this pretty easily.

@Malevolent1 said:

Yeah, as far as I'm aware of, the Super Skrull still has the composite powers of the original Fantastic Four. The Thing, back then, could only press about 5 tons.

Thor should take this pretty easily.

Even back then Super Skrull would actually lift >100 tons, making him 20 times stronger than Thing. He was supposed to be more powerful in ever way.

@vuviper:

Never said it represented the same power levels, I merely said the feats are still canon.

m99

@czarny_samael666: He's saying that we are not equally durable all around so if Thor's durability is proportional to ours his bones>muscle>organs or w/e. That's why he says you can't just say his brain is as durable as his skin or muscle have been shown to be and why he ask for proof that his organs would be durable enough to be impervious to force fields.

The answer.....is still Thor.

m99

Thor already beat him.

@czarny_samael666 said:

@vuviper said:

@czarny_samael666: He's saying that we are not equally durable all around so if Thor's durability is proportional to ours his bones>muscle>organs or w/e. That's why he says you can't just say his brain is as durable as his skin or muscle have been shown to be and why he ask for proof that his organs would be durable enough to be impervious to force fields.

And since there is no proof that it is not proportional, he has to prove that it isn't durable enough to take it, not I that it is. Or in other words: If Thor's brain is even 10 times weaker than his muscles, than he has to prove that this force field can do that much damage. That is why, I've said, that human-durability (organs) counts only to people in armors or with powers similar to Cage or Logan. I don't recall myself saying that his brain is as durable as his skin.

What?

With prep wouldn't SS show up disguised (as Sif,Jane or someone) and either try his hypnosis on him or growing force field within Thors body. Id also say strength wise they are pretty close both can lift 100 tons.

spite!!! thor takes this

Thor can't hurt superskrull if he uses shield bubble, elastic body, and thing body at once.