@tomlikesfries said:
@Charlie_Jade said:
@tomlikesfries said:
Silver Surfer can only go at the speed of light or faster once he enters hyperspace
Surfer has gone FTL many many times WITHOUT hyperspace, the 'hyperspace' thing was only introduced in the 1990s to make the comics science-ish like starwars and stargate
in the last fight vs Thor, Odin is in battle with Galactus and Galactus gets his face damaged by Thor and the hammer. Surfer seeing Galactus hurt blitzes into Thor sending him from Earth to Mars in half a second. No mention of hyperspace, he slams Thor into Mars FTL by using just pure speed
Maybe I should've been a little more specific. Surfer may have gone FTL later on in more recent comics, but Norrin could not fly at the speed of light in his classic version, at least when in planets and not in outer space.
Above would be what we call poor writing and a fluke. Issue 6, volume 1, the Silver Surfer breaks the light speed barrier, then the time barrier:
Notice that hyperspace is never mentioned in this feat. Issue 1 above was written in 1968. The first appearance of the Silver Surfer was in Fantastic Four 48 and hyperspace WAS mentioned in connection with the Silver Surfer. Therefore, when the above feat was done, the writer (Stan Lee, who also wrote issue 48 of the Fantastic Four) was well aware of hyperspace. The thing people seem to forget is that different science fiction writers utilize "hyperspace" differently from one another. For example, the star ships in Star Trek and Battle Star Galactica entered hyperspace because they were so fast. Hyperspace was available to them BECAUSE their engines pushed them past light speed. Same with the Surfer. After he exceeds light speed, he can then choose to enter hyperspace or not. Granted, the Handbook of the Marvel Universe says he enters hyperspace, then exceeds light speed. However, the Marvel website does NOT say the same. And continuity, which rules as KING for the sake of battle forum discussions, should always be considered first. Notice how Steve Englehart explains it in Silver Surfer Annual 2:
Notice the narration above? The Surfer exceeds light speed, then he can enter hyperspace if he so chooses.
Surfer has numerous feats indicating he is not only faster than light in travel speed but that his reaction/combat speed is faster than light as well. I have chronicled some of those feats here:
http://www.comicvine.com/silver-surfer/29-2502/silver-surfers-reaction-time-and-combat-speed/92-557085/?page=2
And, uh, no way in hell does Thor fly faster than the Surfer. Let me know when Thor can time travel or dimension travel on just pure speed. The fastest time I have ever seen Thor fly was 3x the speed of light.
No offense. Just my two cents.
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