" @Susanoo said:
" @czarny_samael said:1.They are equal in power. 2.Glory attack was energy-magic based. Surfer defeated all of this guys without energy beams. Thor won with Glory because he has crazy draining powers. About his durability I will say make my point in answer to 5.3.Ok, but it won't help him here. 4.a)I already said that Thor would put down Surfer by God Blast, but he won't have a chance to do this. b)I'm not talking energy blasts. I am talking about draining. Surfer can't be drained, because Power Cosmic is limitless. For example, Thor can drain Supe and Supe can't put down Thor fast enough to resist it. But Surfer won't drained because his source in opposite to sun - is limitless. In theory, Thor could use Infinity Vortex to block any outside power, like he did against Juggernaut, but Power cosmic is everywhere. Also, most people are weaker when they someone try to drain their power. But Surfer isn't. Quasar, who can drain a star as well as Thor, tried it and Surfer putted him down. This means that this tactic won't succed. What options (beside BFR) Thor really has? -Attack him with Mjolnir's strength. It won't work. Surfer already blocked it. And Surfer has as good control on his board as Thor on Mjolnir. I would say that he has it even better. -Anti-Matter blast, that putted down Mangog. Surfer already surived in black hole. Thor would need to repeat that few times and hit Surfer with it. I know that speed isn't a too big issue here, because Thor already won with Surfer and in that battle Warlock said that he is as fast as his thunders what will put him in 1/3 speed of light class. So Surfer would be only 3 times faster with his nanosecond reaction. But still, one shot is not enough. -Thermoblast that affected Ego. It will be abosrbed. Surfer too drained a star. -Infinity Vortex + drainning. I already explained why it won't work. -Godblast that hurted Celestial and Galactus. It need to be charged. If Thor would be able to take first Surfer attacks, he would win. But he won't. 5.I know that Thor is crazy powerfull being with even more powerfull powers in Mjolnir (hurting Ego with Thermoblast, blocking explosion that could destroy 1/5 of Universe or Cyttorak's power with Infinity Vortex., Anti-Matter blast that can KO Mangog, from inside, but still or God Blast that can hurt even most powerfull beings), but according to Surfer current feats and ability to create black holes, Surfer would take Thor faster than Thor will use his greatest power. a)Thor back to life with OF. b)this thunder still won't destroy planet. Thermoblast, would but both can be absorbed or reflected by energy attacks. c)thanks to Cosmic Awareness, Surfer would know from where Mjolnir will come. Also, Thor shouldn't throw away Mjolnir, becase Surfer would take him out in this moment. Also Strombreaker didn't hurted Surfer. Mjolnir also won't. "
" 1.Like Surfer to BRB and still he stomped BRB by his bare hands. 2.According to Worldmind and Quasar, Revengers (beside those whos body were changed) were equal to 616 counterparts. 3.Summoning winds won't do anything to someone who drained a star before up-grade. 4.Glory was defeated by draining. Surfer can't be defeated that way. Power Cosmic is everywhere, so Infinity Vortex won't work. 5.Thor can win by BFR. God Blast would put down Surfer, but Thor won't have a chance to shoot it. Against classic Surfer he would be able, because Classic Surfer wouldn't be able to take Thor fast. Current Surfer is able to do it in few punches. Thor would need prep, first move or something like to win without BFR. "
1. Thor isn't Bill.
2. 616 Thor took far worse beatings than 1 attack from SS. Attacks from Glory whom is fused with 10,000 patheons didn't take Thor out in one shot.
3. Just showing his storm control and power.
4. Thor can drain SS's energy blasts as well. Magic is also everywhere. Thor's immortal life force has also taken Galactus onto the brink of death.
5. Why do you think SS can take Thor out with only a few punches? Thor isn't Bill and Thor has taken beatings from beings stronger than SS before.
Current Thor has also willed himself back to life, can blast lightning far stronger than Storms (Approx 1,000,000 times more powerful). Not only that, SS can block Mjolnir once with his board, but can he block it when it's flying at him through other directions at millions-billions of times ftl?
1. Zeus and Odin are said to be equals but guess what? Odin still outclasses him for obvious reasons.
2. I agree but the fact that he took multiple hits from 10,000 fused patheons and still held his own gives respect to his durability;
3. You never know. ;)
4. Odinforce provides limitless energy. Mjolnir's also been said to absorb limitless energies as well.
Thor was just getting Surfers attention. If he threw Mjolnir like the scans above, he can keep SS destracted for a while. Perhaps even spinning around Surfer and cut him off from his power cosmic source?
Thor escaped a black hole with no problem.
Thor wouldn't need all those powers to defeat Surfer. He can just spam lightning millions of times more powerful than normal. Storms regular lightning hurt SS before the power boost. Thor's lightning should be capable of hurting current SS.