Thor vs Magneto/Doctor Doom

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#1 Posted by _slim_ (12549 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

- Thor


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                     vs.
- Magneto                                            
         
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
- Doctor Doom
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
- Location:
- Fawcett City
- Unpopulated.
- Afternoon.
- Start 100 ft apart.
 
- Rules:
- Morals apply.
- Random encounter.
- Standard equipment.
- Standard elimination rules apply.
- No BFR.
#2 Posted by czarny_samael666 (13789 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Thor easily.
 
Magneto can't do anything to him and Doom's magic ins't strong enough to take out Thor.

#3 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

If Thor fights in character then team 2 win, Thor rarely uses speed and Magneto has interfered with the metal in the hammer and Doom could always use some ReedRichards style gizmo or use magic dump him in the past or something

#4 Edited by rmsb1984 (73 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666 said:

Thor easily.  Magneto can't do anything to him and Doom's magic ins't strong enough to take out Thor.

What are you talking about, give doctor doom a prep time and he will be able to beat even TOAA level
#5 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (1796 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@rmsb1984 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:

Thor easily.  Magneto can't do anything to him and Doom's magic ins't strong enough to take out Thor.

What are you talking about, give doctor doom a prep time and he was able to beat even TOAA level
 
Fixed it for you.
#6 Edited by ShadowKing (748 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Thor takes them out.

#7 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1245 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Dr. Doom & Magneto have this. 
 
Doom, "Great Seraphim, bestow your protection upon us!"  *Seraphim Shield = will not be able to harm them. period* 
 
Magneto, "fly as fast around us as you will, Thor, you will not be able to escape magnetism!" 
 
*Thor's skin starts pealing away.... His bones turn into dust and his flesh disperses into the wind* 
  
 
Magneto, "The fool! Little did he know that his very being is constructed by the very fabric of what makes all physical things possible! The fabric of ATOM!!" 

#8 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (1796 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@MagneticShockwave
What is Seraphim..? and does it have anything to do with Current Doom? any news on em.
#9 Posted by Manchine (2548 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Thor wins here. Magneto can only take a few hits from Thor and Doom can take a single hit. Magneto wouldn't be able to do enough damage to Thor, Doom even less.

#10 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1245 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@Supermanwithatan01:  It's a shield that all powerful sorcerers and abstracts use to protect themselves both physically, emotionally, pscionically, conceptually, and spiritually.  When Doom' equipment fails, he will resort to the use of magic. And in magic, Doom does not mess around.
 

 
 
 
 
#11 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Thor stomps.
#12 Posted by czarny_samael666 (13789 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@rmsb1984 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:

Thor easily.  Magneto can't do anything to him and Doom's magic ins't strong enough to take out Thor.

What are you talking about, give doctor doom a prep time and he will be able to beat even TOAA level
But he doesn't have prep here.
#13 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38596 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
I think Thor could win here.
#14 Edited by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@TheGoldenOne said:

I think Thor could win here.

Thor loses. badly. this has already been done in the story line for Old man Logan. Magneto and Doctor doom team up to take out Thor, which was Earth's last hope. the immovable Mjionir becomes a tourist attraction in Nevada and the town around it is called Hammerfalls.

#15 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@nickthedevil said:

@TheGoldenOne said:

I think Thor could win here.

Thor loses. badly. this has already been done in the story line for Old man Logan. Magneto and Doctor doom team up to take out Thor, which was Earth's last hope. the immovable Mjionir becomes a tourist attraction in Nevada and the town around it is called Hammerfalls.

 

1. Old Man Logan is Non canon. 
 2. Thor has already beaten Magneto before: 

 
3. Doom does not have the nessesary firepower to take out Thor.
#16 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: but together? i don't think so.

besides we're talking current Thor, Magneto and Dr. Doom right?

#17 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@nickthedevil said:

@venomoushatred1001: but together? i don't think so.

besides we're talking current Thor, Magneto and Dr. Doom right?


1. There is no difference between classic and current Thor. 
2. Magneto is a nonfactor because Thor has already beat him somewhat easily. 
3. Doom has nothing in his arsenal to take out Thor. He is also a weak link.
#18 Posted by CitizenBane (19838 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Thor easily wins a random encounter.

#19 Posted by JackRock (61 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Magneto and Doom!!

#20 Posted by Killemall (13449 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@nickthedevil said:

@venomoushatred1001: but together? i don't think so.

besides we're talking current Thor, Magneto and Dr. Doom right?

1. There is no difference between classic and current Thor. 2. Magneto is a nonfactor because Thor has already beat him somewhat easily. 3. Doom has nothing in his arsenal to take out Thor. He is also a weak link.

unless Doom gets prep, which is not stated in the OP so we got to assume otherwise :) ^^^THIS!!

#21 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@JackRock said:

Magneto and Doom!!


No. In a random encounter, Doom and Mags have NOTHING to bring down Thor.
#22 Posted by tron_bonne (2286 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

When there is no prep..... DOOM IS STILL PREPPED....

#23 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1860 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@tron_bonne: LOL.

But for real Thor wins.

#24 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Magneto has demonstrated that he could taken on all the Avengers at once including Thor, and turn his own hammer against against him.

#25 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@kadeem said:

Magneto has demonstrated that he could taken on all the Avengers at once including Thor, and turn his own hammer against against him.

 

And Thor has demonstrated he could beat Mags easily by himself: 
 
#26 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: That is PIS not a real feat. Since Magneto can manipulate mjolnir it isn't really feasible that Thor would be able to pull of such a feat without Mags just turning his hammer on him. On top of this Magneto is much more powerful now then he was in the silver age.

#27 Posted by Manchine (2548 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@kadeem said:

Magneto has demonstrated that he could taken on all the Avengers at once including Thor, and turn his own hammer against against him.

All he did was push thor hammer away. Thats not beating Thor.

#28 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Manchine: If he can manipulate mjolnir, he can beat Thor.

Here Magneto is yet again taking on all the Avengers at once, and using his force field to block direct blows from both Thor and She-Hulk at once without trouble.
& here is Magneto actually beating Thor.
#29 Posted by theicon (1797 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

doom solos

#30 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@kadeem said:  

And Thor has demonstrated he could beat Mags easily by himself: 
 
 
 3 panels of thor owning magneto? 
 why won't you add in the other 20 panels of magneto owning thor? that's right, this win was pis. thor had to trick magneto by turning into donald blake, making magneto think that thor had ran off. 
 
 
oh but of course.... it always takes p.i.s to defeat a powerful "bad guy".
#31 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@kadeem said:

@venomoushatred1001: That is PIS not a real feat. Since Magneto can manipulate mjolnir it isn't really feasible that Thor would be able to pull of such a feat without Mags just turning his hammer on him. On top of this Magneto is much more powerful now then he was in the silver age.



How is that PIS? Thor has shown the ability to manipulate Magnetic fields and absorb energy numorous times:  
 
Used magnetic fields to pull Loki:
 
 
  
Using magnetism to lift mine underwater:
 
  
 
 
Used magnetic field to pull himself and heroes around a building: 
 

 
 
 
Also, I would like scans of Magneto manipulating Mjolnir, because, no offense, I highly doubt that.
#32 Posted by Manchine (2548 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@kadeem said:

@Manchine: If he can manipulate mjolnir, he can beat Thor.

Here Magneto is yet again taking on all the Avengers at once, and using his force field to block direct blows from both Thor and She-Hulk at once without trouble.
& here is Magneto actually beating Thor.

LOL, I love when people use the first picture. Yes Magneto was able to keep his forcefield up against a Half Strength Thor. Thanks to Hela's curse. You can easily tell because he is wearing his armor and Dr. Druid is in the group.

Picture #2

He drops metal on Thor. Unless we see picture before and after. All he did was drop metal on Thor.

#33 Posted by Docnick (10453 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001:

ah well youre right, there is no difference between classic thor and current thor, but there is difference's with magneto and Dr. Doom.

Classic Magneto: dumb enough to be beat by Iceman, cyclops, Jean grey, beast and angel. no offense to the first class X-men, but they were pretty weak. now it takes the full avengers to take out Magneto.

Dr. Doom has improved since then, and in his arsenal has a power siphoning device. soooo. yes. makes a difference man.

#34 Posted by isaac_clarke (4399 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

People are blowing Magneto to ridiculous proportions. Thor's Mjolnir has enchanments that can let it fly right through Magneto's shields and the damn thing can tap into the magnetic energies of the planet's core. I'd love to see Magneto take control of Mjolnir being tossed at him by Thor at full strength. Doom is the only threat and Thor has manhandled him in the past.

#35 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: I agree that mjolnir has some magnetic powers, but nowhere near the scale of Magneto's. As i pointed out earlier Magneto can manipulate mjolnir with his powers, which could leave Thor without being able to use his main weapon and most of his powers against Magneto, who again is much more powerful and intelligent now then he was back in the silver age.

#36 Edited by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

lol but of course odin force/rune king thor can beat magneto. no one here is saying that he couldn't.

#37 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@theicon said:

doom solos


No. 
@kadeem said:

@Manchine: If he can manipulate mjolnir, he can beat Thor.

Here Magneto is yet again taking on all the Avengers at once, and using his force field to block direct blows from both Thor and She-Hulk at once without trouble.

& here is Magneto actually beating Thor.
Picture one: I love it when people try to use this scan to prove some kind of point. Thor was at half strength because of Hela's curse when he was attacking Mag's shield. Heres him attacking it at full strength: 
 
 
Picture 2: Thor wasn't KO'ed by that.
#38 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

I have already provided scans proving that Magneto can use his powers on mjolnir, and that all of the Avengers (including Thor) struggle against him collectively in battle. This battle is to asymmetrically biased against Thor.

#39 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@kadeem said:

I have already provided scans proving that Magneto can use his powers on mjolnir, and that all of the Avengers (including Thor) struggle against him collectively in battle. This battle is to asymmetrically biased against Thor.


Where is a scan of Magneto manipulating Thor's hammer? I have yet to see this. I think you're overrating Magneto a bit.
#40 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001: That is still a pis induced feat against a less powerful and less tactically adept silver age Magneto. Magneto cam still manipulate Thor's hammer.

#41 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@kadeem said:

I have already provided scans proving that Magneto can use his powers on mjolnir, and that all of the Avengers (including Thor) struggle against him collectively in battle. This battle is to asymmetrically biased against Thor.

indeed. they are using odin force or rune king thor. any other thor would be beaten so says history and that can not be denied regardless that if they are biased or not.
#42 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@Lance Bastro said:

@kadeem said:

I have already provided scans proving that Magneto can use his powers on mjolnir, and that all of the Avengers (including Thor) struggle against him collectively in battle. This battle is to asymmetrically biased against Thor.

indeed. they are using odin force or rune king thor. any other thor would be beaten so says history and that can not be denied regardless that if they are biased or not.

Agreed

#43 Posted by Manchine (2548 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Picture 2: Thor wasn't KO'ed by that.

Figured that but I didn't know.

#44 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@kadeem said:

@venomoushatred1001: That is still a pis induced feat against a less powerful and less tactically adept silver age Magneto. Magneto cam still manipulate Thor's hammer.


Its not PIS, because Thor has demonstrated the ability to absorb and manipulate magnetic forces before. 
 
How is current Magneto greater than classic Mags? If anything classic Magneto > current Magneto, because current Mags hardly ever uses his powers other than manipulating metal and creating force fields. Classic Mags was A LOT more versatile and inventive with his powers. 
#45 Posted by isaac_clarke (4399 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@kadeem said:

@venomoushatred1001: I agree that mjolnir has some magnetic powers, but nowhere near the scale of Magneto's. As i pointed out earlier Magneto can manipulate mjolnir with his powers, which could leave Thor without being able to use his main weapon and most of his powers against Magneto, who again is much more powerful and intelligent now then he was back in the silver age.

Yeah it does, Magneto had trouble moving some mountains, Mjolnir can do this:

Given said enchantment, you can take a guess said force was multiplied 10 to a hundred fold. The fact Magneto couldn't even keep his helmet on his head and got mind owned by a demonic Wolverine doesn't help.

What will have more power over the hammer, Thor that can summon it from Zeus' hands, or Magneto pulling it along with him away for a panel? There is no reason Thor can't toss that hammer faster than Magneto can think and right through shields.

#46 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@isaac_clarke said:

@kadeem said:

@venomoushatred1001: I agree that mjolnir has some magnetic powers, but nowhere near the scale of Magneto's. As i pointed out earlier Magneto can manipulate mjolnir with his powers, which could leave Thor without being able to use his main weapon and most of his powers against Magneto, who again is much more powerful and intelligent now then he was back in the silver age.

Yeah it does, Magneto had trouble moving some mountains, Mjolnir can do this:

Given said enchantment, you can take a guess said force was multiplied 10 to a hundred fold. The fact Magneto couldn't even keep his helmet on his head and got mind owned by a demonic Wolverine doesn't help.

What will have more power over the hammer, Thor that can summon it from Zeus' hands, or Magneto pulling it along with him away for a panel? There is no reason Thor can't toss that hammer faster than Magneto can think and right through shields.

This doesn't demonstrate Thor actually doing anything that demonstrate he has more power over magnetism than Magneto, or that he could counter Magneto's ability to manipulate his hammer at all. I never disputed that mjolnir has energy absorbing abilities.

#47 Posted by isaac_clarke (4399 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@kadeem said:

This doesn't demonstrate Thor actually doing anything that demonstrate he has more power over magnetism than Magneto, or that he could counter Magneto's ability to manipulate his hammer at all. I never disputed that mjolnir has energy absorbing abilities.

It shows Thor can tap into much more magnetic energy than Magneto can ever hope to. I pointed out he Zeus instance, of Thor commanding his hammer to return from the hand of a Skyfather holding it. The hammer does Thor's bidding, he can summon it to his hand, he can swing his arm and hurl it to blitz dozens of people or send straight into Magneto with more force than he could ever possibly hope to stop it. Hell he could just say "Hammer" and have it hurl itself through Magneto's chest.

Magneto isn't over powering odin enchantments on Mjolnir.

#48 Posted by kadeem (2855 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

@isaac_clarke said:

@kadeem said:

This doesn't demonstrate Thor actually doing anything that demonstrate he has more power over magnetism than Magneto, or that he could counter Magneto's ability to manipulate his hammer at all. I never disputed that mjolnir has energy absorbing abilities.

It shows Thor can tap into much more magnetic energy than Magneto can ever hope to. I pointed out he Zeus instance, of Thor commanding his hammer to return from the hand of a Skyfather holding it. The hammer does Thor's bidding, he can summon it to his hand, he can swing his arm and hurl it to blitz dozens of people or send straight into Magneto with more force than he could ever possibly hope to stop it. Hell he could just say "Hammer" and have it hurl itself through Magneto's chest.

Magneto isn't over powering odin enchantments on Mjolnir.

This panel is really irreverent to this discussion. No one said that Magneto could lift the hammer with his hands or utilize its powers, only that he could make it move to

his will with his magnetic powers. I have already posted a feat demonstrating he could do this.

Here is yet an other example of him doing this back in the silver age when Magneto was much weaker. Unless you have proof that mjolnir is immune to Magneto's manipulation you are wasting everyone's time.

#49 Posted by Clutch (2667 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Team villain.

#50 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@kadeem said:

@isaac_clarke said:

@kadeem said:

This doesn't demonstrate Thor actually doing anything that demonstrate he has more power over magnetism than Magneto, or that he could counter Magneto's ability to manipulate his hammer at all. I never disputed that mjolnir has energy absorbing abilities.

It shows Thor can tap into much more magnetic energy than Magneto can ever hope to. I pointed out he Zeus instance, of Thor commanding his hammer to return from the hand of a Skyfather holding it. The hammer does Thor's bidding, he can summon it to his hand, he can swing his arm and hurl it to blitz dozens of people or send straight into Magneto with more force than he could ever possibly hope to stop it. Hell he could just say "Hammer" and have it hurl itself through Magneto's chest.

Magneto isn't over powering odin enchantments on Mjolnir.

This panel is really irreverent to this discussion. No one said that Magneto could lift the hammer with his hands or utilize its powers, only that he could make it move to

his will with his magnetic powers. I have already posted a feat demonstrating he could do this.

 

Here is yet an other example of him doing this back in the silver age when Magneto was much weaker. Unless you have proof that mjolnir is immune to Magneto's manipulation you are wasting everyone's time.


Again how is Magneto weaker back then than he is now.  
 
I doubt magneto can stop mjolnir going at faster than lightsspeeds: 
 
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