#1 Posted by rico_3088 (485 posts) - - Show Bio

THOR IS FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL AND WILL DO WHAT HE MUST TO WIN THE DAY MAGNETO AND CREEL ARE BLOOD LUSTED AND TRYING TO KILL THOR BY ANY MEANS. WHO WINS?

#2 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto's got this

#3 Posted by JustAnotherComicFan (14 posts) - - Show Bio

mags and creel wins here.

#4 Posted by xxxddd (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

Magneto's got this

Are you joking?

#5 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines said:

Magneto's got this

Are you joking?

Not really, Mags bloodlusted could just anchor Mjolnir to the core of the earth (along with Thor if he's holding it) or mess with the electricity in Thor's brain.

#6 Posted by xxxddd (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: He's never done that against Thor.

#7 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: doesn't mean he can't; he's done it to other people to my understanding; also, has Thor ever fought an actual bloodlusted Magneto?

#8 Posted by xxxddd (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd: doesn't mean he can't; he's done it to other people to my understanding; also, has Thor ever fought an actual bloodlusted Magneto?

Yes, in Journey Into Mystery #109.

#9 Edited by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor will do whatever he must? So I assume he will have morals turned off?

Then Thor wins easily.

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines said:

Magneto's got this

Are you joking?

Not really, Mags bloodlusted could just anchor Mjolnir to the core of the earth (along with Thor if he's holding it) or mess with the electricity in Thor's brain.

No.

Mjolnir has a magical connection to Thor and he can call upon it from anywhere by mere thought. It would take someone a lot more powerful than Magneto to mess with that.

#10 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: aw come on! that comic is old as hell, before Mags' powers were actually explained, he's come a long way since then doing ridiculously amazing things and you know it. The way current Thor is portrayed he wouldn't last a second against an actual bloodlusted Eric with the high degree of mastery he possesses on all things magnetic and electric.

#11 Edited by xxxddd (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd: aw come on! that comic is old as hell

Indeed, but opinions on battles are based on what has happened in comicbook battles.

Without past comicbook battles we have nothing for reference.

Like if I wanted to tell you who would win between the Absorbing Man and Thor, I would cite a issue reference, otherwise I wouldn't say anything because a definitive answer(i.e. past comicbook battle) hasn't come out yet.

#12 Posted by xxxddd (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

@CosmicSpiral said:

Thor will do whatever he must? So I assume he will have morals turned off?

Morals off means doing things out of character, bloodlusted means not only is the being in question out of character but is willing to kill.

#13 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd: aw come on! that comic is old as hell

Indeed, but opinions on battles are based on what has happened in comicbook battles.

Without past comicbook battles we have nothing for reference.

Like if I wanted to tell you who would win between the Absorbing Man and Thor, I would cite a issue reference, otherwise I wouldn't say anything because a definitive answer(i.e. past comicbook battle) hasn't come out yet.

completely agree, however the evolution of the character is such that Magneto's level of power does not in any way resemble the one presented in that comic.

#14 Posted by xxxddd (3428 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: Since there hasn't been a battle between the two I can't definitively say who wins.

Nice chatting with you, though.

#15 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@CosmicSpiral said:

Thor will do whatever he must? So I assume he will have morals turned off?

Morals off means doing things out of character, bloodlusted means not only is the being in question out of character but is willing to kill.

The reluctance to kill is a part of Thor's character.

#16 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@CosmicSpiral said:

Thor will do whatever he must? So I assume he will have morals turned off?

Then Thor wins easily.

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines said:

Magneto's got this

Are you joking?

Not really, Mags bloodlusted could just anchor Mjolnir to the core of the earth (along with Thor if he's holding it) or mess with the electricity in Thor's brain.

No.

Mjolnir has a magical connection to Thor and he can call upon it from anywhere by mere thought. It would take someone a lot more powerful than Magneto to mess with that.

I'm not saying that Magneto would mess with the composition or the ability for Thor to command his hammer or lift Thor's hammer or anything like that; however there is no evidence (to my knowledge, I could be wrong) that would indicate that Mjolnir would not be susceptible to the laws of physics (when Thor does not hold it, it still falls to the ground affected by gravity). What I meant by "Magneto can anchor..." is mainly that Mags could use the magnetic filed on earth to weigh down the hammer.

But in all honesty...could Magneto affect Mjolnir's composition? Is there anything to suggest he couldn't?

#17 Posted by Pyrogram (32263 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor stomp, Godblast, or busts the planet.

#18 Posted by Pyrogram (32263 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: yes, Magneto would need to overcome Odin.

#19 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pyrogram said:

Thor stomp, Godblast, or busts the planet.

Thor has morals on, and doesn't the godblast need to be charged?

#20 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines said:

@CosmicSpiral said:

Thor will do whatever he must? So I assume he will have morals turned off?

Then Thor wins easily.

@Jayfournines said:

@xxxddd said:

@Jayfournines said:

Magneto's got this

Are you joking?

Not really, Mags bloodlusted could just anchor Mjolnir to the core of the earth (along with Thor if he's holding it) or mess with the electricity in Thor's brain.

No.

Mjolnir has a magical connection to Thor and he can call upon it from anywhere by mere thought. It would take someone a lot more powerful than Magneto to mess with that.

I'm not saying that Magneto would mess with the composition or the ability for Thor to command his hammer or lift Thor's hammer or anything like that; however there is no evidence (to my knowledge, I could be wrong) that would indicate that Mjolnir would not be susceptible to the laws of physics (when Thor does not hold it, it still falls to the ground affected by gravity). What I meant by "Magneto can anchor..." is mainly that Mags could use the magnetic filed on earth to weigh down the hammer.

But in all honesty...could Magneto affect Mjolnir's composition? Is there anything to suggest he couldn't?

Mjolnir has violated the laws of gravity since Thor was created as a character. It's traveled faster than light, stopped and traveled backwards through time, and sped right through black holes. The psychic connection created by Odin's enchantment overrides most powers than are not explicitly skyfather-level.

Probably nothing that would be permanent. Plenty of other powerful beings have tried and failed to do so. However Magneto has messed around with the magnetic attraction of Mjolnir when Thor was not paying attention; he can easily replicate that feat with how much Magnus has evolved in comics.

#21 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@CosmicSpiral: Thanks so much for the info

#22 Posted by Pyrogram (32263 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: THOR IS FIGHTING FOR SURVIVAL AND WILL DO WHAT HE MUST TO WIN THE DAY.

He will planet bust or godblast. this thread is spite