Thor vs Jay Garrick

I'm going to say Thor.

Thor isn't fast enough to hit Jay with anything other than an AOE attack. Does anyone know how hard Jay can hit? If he's able to hit as hard as Wally, he'll stomp Thor pretty badly.

People are severely under-estimating Jay here. I'll have to say Jay on this one, while Thor is stronger and more durable, Jay is much faster in close-quarters combat. Current Thor struggles to keep up with Quicksilver, let alone Jay Garrick. Classic Thor would most likely win, but unless specified, the OP shows Current Thor. Jay takes this, he's simply too fast.

@XiiX said:

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Such an enlightening post.

@Frozen said:

People are severely under-estimating Jay here. I'll have to say Jay on this one, while Thor is stronger and more durable, Jay is much faster in close-quarters combat. Current Thor struggles to keep up with Quicksilver, let alone Jay Garrick. Classic Thor would most likely win, but unless specified, the OP shows Current Thor. Jay takes this, he's simply too fast.

Yeah, I don't really see how he's going to be able to touch him.

@Frozen said:

People are severely under-estimating Jay here. I'll have to say Jay on this one, while Thor is stronger and more durable, Jay is much faster in close-quarters combat. Current Thor struggles to keep up with Quicksilver, let alone Jay Garrick. Classic Thor would most likely win, but unless specified, the OP shows Current Thor. Jay takes this, he's simply too fast.

@Jayfournines said:

I'm gonna say Thor, though Jay is much faster, he's not as powerful or resourceful as the other Flashes

Well he does have speed steal, one touch and he can take away his speed, Jay has done this to superman (while he did not drain all his speed, he did steal his speed, slowed him down and accelerated himself), i see no reason why he couldnt do exactly that to Thor, maybe turn him into a statue, that would be win via incapacitation.

Jay wins.

He'll just do what he did to Superman.

@DocFatalis said:

Does Jay run faster than the lightning? Because if that is not the case, I guess even an immobile Thor could strike him with his control over elements.

On a side note, I think those two would very likely get along well together After all they're both old guys.

He's much faster than lightning.

@Jayfournines said:

@Killemall: I did not know Jay had speed steal, I thought only Wally did that

Wally taught Jay how to do it.

@Jayfournines said:

@Killemall: I did not know Jay had speed steal, I thought only Wally did that

Yeah like blackadamFTW explained, Wally taught Jay how to during last part of Flash volume 3.

Here's the scan:

@jackofspades said:

@Fenderzenders said:

Um do people not realize that Jay could simply steal his speed? There is nothing Thor can do about it. He loses, badly

how about thor just stays in the air and rain lighting down on jay

Jay is a lot faster then quicksilver. And thor has a habit of fighting people on there terms.

@jackofspades: Thor has almost never (possibly never) done this tactic against hulk ever. I see no reason he will do this to Jay.

@xxxddd said:

@Frozen said:

People are severely under-estimating Jay here. I'll have to say Jay on this one, while Thor is stronger and more durable, Jay is much faster in close-quarters combat. Current Thor struggles to keep up with Quicksilver, let alone Jay Garrick. Classic Thor would most likely win, but unless specified, the OP shows Current Thor. Jay takes this, he's simply too fast.

Classic and Current Thor are the same being.

I know that. But Classic Thor is completely different to Current Thor, Current Thor doesn't even hold a candle to Classic Thor in terms of power.

@jackofspades said:

thor is not dumb,he will not just stay on the ground if its not working he will take it to the air and then bye bye jay

Thor doesnt have to stay on ground forever, just long enough for Jay to get a hand on him. And given the fact that Hulk has no problem tagging him, and entire Thor villians, no one has combat speed so to speak of apart from Loki and perhaps Malikath, and Jay is much faster than them i dont see that being a problem at all.

@Primarch said:

@Frozen said:

@xxxddd said:

@Frozen said:

People are severely under-estimating Jay here. I'll have to say Jay on this one, while Thor is stronger and more durable, Jay is much faster in close-quarters combat. Current Thor struggles to keep up with Quicksilver, let alone Jay Garrick. Classic Thor would most likely win, but unless specified, the OP shows Current Thor. Jay takes this, he's simply too fast.

Classic and Current Thor are the same being.

I know that. But Classic Thor is completely different to Current Thor, Current Thor doesn't even hold a candle to Classic Thor in terms of power.

I believe the argument he's referencing is that whatever Classic Thor could do, Current Thor can call upon as a legitimate feat as Marvel doesn't have retcon events like DC does.

Thar argument isn't really valid. Consistency kills that argument.

@jackofspades: No its not its thors character. He once literally asked odin to take away his abilities so he can brawl with hulk in a fair fight. He once let hulk taunt him to throwing his hammer a way and engaged hulk in another brawl. He brawls constantly against ulik as well. And Kurse....

Thor

@jackofspades said:

that is abc logic that you are using iam sure jay has been tag by slow villains also

Ok you either did not read what i typed or didnt not understand, i am presuming its the latter.

Everyone gets tagged by slow people from Thor to Silver Surfer, to Flash and Zoom.

What i am however saying is , all Jay need is to touch Thor once, and zap his speed is gone. And given the fact that Jay is much faster it shouldnt be a problem.

Also there is a big difference between being tagged by slow people to being outright blitz by slow people which is something that has happened to Thor.