invisibility, intangibility, mind control, energy sensing, tracking, energy absorption, energy/soul/matter manipulation, resurrection, alpha particles, life force absorption, geo force, anti force, gravi blast, thermoblast, godblast, flight, weather control, healing, magnetism, barriers/force fields, antimatter creation, and cosmic energy creation.
World War Hulk and regular Juggernaut. takes place in an empty L.A. No bfr.
Without teleportation or BFR the fight would last forever.... Hulk will eventually go down but Juggs won't
Thor has beaten Juggernaut before.
@Chaos Burn said:
what does 'all his hammers abilities' mean?
all of his hammer's powers that has been displayed over the years:
invisibility, intangibility, mind control, energy sensing, tracking, energy absorption, energy/soul/matter manipulation, resurrection, alpha particles, life force absorption, geo force, anti force, gravi blast, thermoblast, godblast, flight, weather control, healing, magnetism, barriers/force fields, antimatter creation, and cosmic energy creation.
Without teleportation or BFR the fight would last forever.... Hulk will eventually go down but Juggs won't
Thor has beaten Juggernaut before.
@Chaos Burn said:
what does 'all his hammers abilities' mean?
all of his hammer's powers that has been displayed over the years:
invisibility, intangibility, mind control, energy sensing, tracking, energy absorption, energy/soul/matter manipulation, resurrection, alpha particles, life force absorption, geo force, anti force, gravi blast, thermoblast, godblast, flight, weather control, healing, magnetism, barriers/force fields, antimatter creation, and cosmic energy creation.
When has Thor beating Juggernaut WITHOUT the aid of the New Warriors or BFR?
Juggsy and Thor have fought a few times. Once, Thor managed to create a "mystical" vortex, cutting Cain off from the power of Cytorrak, and handling him fairly easily after that.
But the two together? I can't see Hulk standing still while Thor repeats this against Juggsy. Utilizing all his speed, going for a quick knockout against Juggs and then turning his attention to Hulk...pretty tall order.
Juggsy and Thor have fought a few times. Once, Thor managed to create a "mystical" vortex, cutting Cain off from the power of Cytorrak, and handling him fairly easily after that.
But the two together? I can't see Hulk standing still while Thor repeats this against Juggsy. Utilizing all his speed, going for a quick knockout against Juggs and then turning his attention to Hulk...pretty tall order.
If this is full capability it also means all his attacks are at there full power. So it's like classic Thor vs team. He can Thermo blast or God blast the pair of them 1 after another.
Or he can do a combination of smaller abilities. With invisibility, matter transfiguration and intangibility. That way he can sneak in close and dish out some surprise damage to one of them and send them temporarily flying. Then he can transfigure Juggernaut into a big marshmallow or something. Then he can go take out hulk by putting his fist through his chest.
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.
Did the God Blast work?
Did he temporarily negated Juggernaut's forcefield or negated Juggernaut's durability and strength?
As I recall he disabled the Juggernaut's forcefield and it was still a pretty potent fight.
However, I see Thor BFRing Hulk the way he did when he was Nul.
Then I see a 50/50 fight. Juggernaut should be able to take him if BFR is disabled. But if we include all Thor's hammers feats and say they are valid (which we are apparently), then Thor should be able to take this.
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.
Did the God Blast work?
Did he temporarily negated Juggernaut's forcefield or negated Juggernaut's durability and strength?
As I recall he disabled the Juggernaut's forcefield and it was still a pretty potent fight.
However, I see Thor BFRing Hulk the way he did when he was Nul.
Then I see a 50/50 fight. Juggernaut should be able to take him if BFR is disabled. But if we include all Thor's hammers feats and say they are valid (which we are apparently), then Thor should be able to take this.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
If I remember, He took out the forcefield momentarily, but still couldn't harm the Juggernaut. Juggernaut still taking the bloodlusted hits, and Thor was getting exhauted with each blow, while Juggernaut was still coming back for more not tiring or getting hurt at all. And if we are allowed to enable all of Mjior's abilities, we should then enable all of Juggernaut's as well.
Hulk and Juggy got this, even with Thor using all his abilities... as far as I remember (even WWH) madder he gets the stronger he gets and Juggernaut's ability is more then just his strength and ability with the crystal he has, he could last practically forever unless the Crystal is ripped out of him. I mean after Thors hammer even absorbed some of the power from him, he still withstood attacks from the hammer... combine that with he never tires and Hulk... Thor loses this one.
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.
Did the God Blast work?
Did he temporarily negated Juggernaut's forcefield or negated Juggernaut's durability and strength?
As I recall he disabled the Juggernaut's forcefield and it was still a pretty potent fight.
However, I see Thor BFRing Hulk the way he did when he was Nul.
Then I see a 50/50 fight. Juggernaut should be able to take him if BFR is disabled. But if we include all Thor's hammers feats and say they are valid (which we are apparently), then Thor should be able to take this.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
If I remember, He took out the forcefield momentarily, but still couldn't harm the Juggernaut. Juggernaut still taking the bloodlusted hits, and Thor was getting exhauted with each blow, while Juggernaut was still coming back for more not tiring or getting hurt at all. And if we are allowed to enable all of Mjior's abilities, we should then enable all of Juggernaut's as well.
I didn't make the match, I just abide by the rules. Which means BFR is a possibility :P
@Floopay: @jimroote99: @Malevolent1: @venomoushatred1001: Can the godblast harm Hulk?
It should. It stopped the Juggernaut in his tracks and drove Galactus back. I seem to remember reading that there is enough destructive power in Mjolnir to destroy a galaxy. Not sure where I read that....
It should. It stopped the Juggernaut in his tracks and drove Galactus back. I seem to remember reading that there is enough destructive power in Mjolnir to destroy a galaxy. Not sure where I read that....
Thor #407:Mjolnir absorbing an explosion that would have decimated the galaxy:
@Floopay: Different question, has Thor actually used it on Hulk?
No, usually Thor prefers to go toe to toe with the Hulk. He rarely even uses flight against the Hulk. If Thor were to utilize his powers to their full potential, he would be able to stomp him.
In a What If? comic, Thor kills Hulk with a single lightning bolt. In Fear Itself he BFRs him with a lightning bolt as well.
His best godblast feat is shattering Exitar's dome, but it was with the belt of strength and on top of that it shattered mjolnir and on top of that Exitar didn't even feel it and his armor healed instantly:
That's why I'm asking if it's really all that deadly.
His best godblast feat is shattering Exitar's dome, but it was with the belt of strength and on top of that it shattered mjolnir and on top of that Exitar didn't even feel it and his armor healed instantly:
That's why I'm asking if it's really all that deadly.
Considering Exitar was one of like 4 Celestials that pretty much walked through Asgard without ever sustaining any harm, I don't think that's that small of a feat...Hulk wouldn't even be able to touch a Celestial without being vaporized, much less temporarily destroy a piece of it's armor.
No, usually Thor prefers to go toe to toe with the Hulk.
You mean Thor holds back?
Well, yes and no. Thor doesn't need to hold back in terms strength, but he does hold back in terms of speed, and versatility. Because of this, Hulk can go so far as to KO him.
@NerdsFTW: if you ask me thats a pretty good feat, i mean that big guy is a celestial, so of course thor wont stand much of a chance. and if your not too big on that feat, thors god blast also injured a weak galactus pretty well, so i mean its powerful alright. its something that would definitely give hulk hell
Even Stan lee says hulk is the " strongest there is" since when is juggernaut stronger? I know Thor has more powers and juggernaut is nearly indestructible but hulk has beat him before and I know jugs has beat him too but there is no one with more strength than hulk,,,even the beyonder remarked on how limitless his strength is before he was ret-conned.
It should. It stopped the Juggernaut in his tracks and drove Galactus back. I seem to remember reading that there is enough destructive power in Mjolnir to destroy a galaxy. Not sure where I read that....
Thor #407:Mjolnir absorbing an explosion that would have decimated the galaxy:
Even Stan lee says hulk is the " strongest there is" since when is juggernaut stronger? I know Thor has more powers and juggernaut is nearly indestructible but hulk has beat him before and I know jugs has beat him too but there is no one with more strength than hulk,,,even the beyonder remarked on how limitless his strength is before he was ret-conned.
Even Stan lee says hulk is the " strongest there is" since when is juggernaut stronger? I know Thor has more powers and juggernaut is nearly indestructible but hulk has beat him before and I know jugs has beat him too but there is no one with more strength than hulk,,,even the beyonder remarked on how limitless his strength is before he was ret-conned.
He isn't.
@Malevolent1: Cool.
Hulk's base strength isn't as strong as thor or juggs. But an enraged hulk can keep getting stronger till he overpower them. Hulk's rage is said to be limitless also much like his strength.
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