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#1 Edited by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is using all of his hammer's abilities:

invisibility, intangibility, mind control, energy sensing, tracking, energy absorption, energy/soul/matter manipulation, resurrection, alpha particles, life force absorption, geo force, anti force, gravi blast, thermoblast, godblast, flight, weather control, healing, magnetism, barriers/force fields, antimatter creation, and cosmic energy creation.

World War Hulk and regular Juggernaut. takes place in an empty L.A. No bfr.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#3 Posted by SithLantern93 (2195 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor transmutates them into dog crap. Or BFRs them to Canis Majoris VY.

#4 Posted by Chaos Burn (1789 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

#5 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1801 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins. Thor could probably solo, especially with BFR allowed

#6 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@Chaos Burn said:

Thor

#7 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imagine_Man15 said:

Team wins. Thor could probably solo, especially with BFR allowed

Thor vs Hulk and Juggernaut.

Thor isn't on a team.

@ChaosBlazer: @Chaos Burn: @SithLantern93: No teleportation allowed.

#8 Posted by Chaos Burn (1789 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Imagine_Man15 said:

Team wins. Thor could probably solo, especially with BFR allowed

Thor vs Hulk and Juggernaut.

Thor isn't on a team.

@ChaosBlazer: @Chaos Burn: @SithLantern93: No teleportation allowed.

no teleportation or no BFR?

#9 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Without teleportation or BFR the fight would last forever.... Hulk will eventually go down but Juggs won't

#10 Posted by Chaos Burn (1789 posts) - - Show Bio

what does 'all his hammers abilities' mean?

#11 Posted by TDK_1997 (15110 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut would win.

#12 Posted by SithLantern93 (2195 posts) - - Show Bio

@SithLantern93 said:

Thor transmutates them into dog crap.

#13 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Chaos Burn said:

no teleportation or no BFR?

No bfr.

@ChaosBlazer said:

Without teleportation or BFR the fight would last forever.... Hulk will eventually go down but Juggs won't

Thor has beaten Juggernaut before.

@Chaos Burn said:

what does 'all his hammers abilities' mean?

all of his hammer's powers that has been displayed over the years:

invisibility, intangibility, mind control, energy sensing, tracking, energy absorption, energy/soul/matter manipulation, resurrection, alpha particles, life force absorption, geo force, anti force, gravi blast, thermoblast, godblast, flight, weather control, healing, magnetism, barriers/force fields, antimatter creation, and cosmic energy creation.

#14 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

if no bfr then team take this , with a good battle

#15 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull: Even if Thor is using all of his hammer's powers?

#16 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@TheAcidSkull: Even if Thor is using all of his hammer's powers?

well thats a bit challenging, but both hulk and juggs are very durable( though juggs is more durable) and very strong ( hulk is stronger), wwhulk is also a good strategist, so i think they could pull it of with a good fight

#17 Posted by Chaos Burn (1789 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor defeats Juggernaut, and dodges WWHulks attacks and godblasts him with enough power to revert him back to Banner as Sentry did

#18 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Chaos Burn said:

no teleportation or no BFR?

No bfr.

@ChaosBlazer said:

Without teleportation or BFR the fight would last forever.... Hulk will eventually go down but Juggs won't

Thor has beaten Juggernaut before.

@Chaos Burn said:

what does 'all his hammers abilities' mean?

all of his hammer's powers that has been displayed over the years:

invisibility, intangibility, mind control, energy sensing, tracking, energy absorption, energy/soul/matter manipulation, resurrection, alpha particles, life force absorption, geo force, anti force, gravi blast, thermoblast, godblast, flight, weather control, healing, magnetism, barriers/force fields, antimatter creation, and cosmic energy creation.

When has Thor beating Juggernaut WITHOUT the aid of the New Warriors or BFR?

#19 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20446 posts) - - Show Bio

Is BFR on?

#20 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.

#21 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20446 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: That's good. Hulk and Juggernaut have a chance then. I think either side could pull off a couple wins.

#22 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.

Did the God Blast work?

Did he temporarily negated Juggernaut's forcefield or negated Juggernaut's durability and strength?

#23 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggsy and Thor have fought a few times. Once, Thor managed to create a "mystical" vortex, cutting Cain off from the power of Cytorrak, and handling him fairly easily after that.

But the two together? I can't see Hulk standing still while Thor repeats this against Juggsy. Utilizing all his speed, going for a quick knockout against Juggs and then turning his attention to Hulk...pretty tall order.

I lean toward the team.

#24 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@Malevolent1 said:

Juggsy and Thor have fought a few times. Once, Thor managed to create a "mystical" vortex, cutting Cain off from the power of Cytorrak, and handling him fairly easily after that.

But the two together? I can't see Hulk standing still while Thor repeats this against Juggsy. Utilizing all his speed, going for a quick knockout against Juggs and then turning his attention to Hulk...pretty tall order.

I lean toward the team.

Completely agree.

#25 Posted by Blacklightning13 (916 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is full capability it also means all his attacks are at there full power. So it's like classic Thor vs team. He can Thermo blast or God blast the pair of them 1 after another.

Or he can do a combination of smaller abilities. With invisibility, matter transfiguration and intangibility. That way he can sneak in close and dish out some surprise damage to one of them and send them temporarily flying. Then he can transfigure Juggernaut into a big marshmallow or something. Then he can go take out hulk by putting his fist through his chest.

#26 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@NerdsFTW said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.

Did the God Blast work?

Did he temporarily negated Juggernaut's forcefield or negated Juggernaut's durability and strength?

As I recall he disabled the Juggernaut's forcefield and it was still a pretty potent fight.

However, I see Thor BFRing Hulk the way he did when he was Nul.

Then I see a 50/50 fight. Juggernaut should be able to take him if BFR is disabled. But if we include all Thor's hammers feats and say they are valid (which we are apparently), then Thor should be able to take this.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#27 Posted by jimroote99 (265 posts) - - Show Bio

if BFR is allowed they both get dimension dumped in an instant. if not, it'll be a pretty good fight, but i think thors got it

#28 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@NerdsFTW said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.

Did the God Blast work?

Did he temporarily negated Juggernaut's forcefield or negated Juggernaut's durability and strength?

As I recall he disabled the Juggernaut's forcefield and it was still a pretty potent fight.

However, I see Thor BFRing Hulk the way he did when he was Nul.

Then I see a 50/50 fight. Juggernaut should be able to take him if BFR is disabled. But if we include all Thor's hammers feats and say they are valid (which we are apparently), then Thor should be able to take this.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

If I remember, He took out the forcefield momentarily, but still couldn't harm the Juggernaut. Juggernaut still taking the bloodlusted hits, and Thor was getting exhauted with each blow, while Juggernaut was still coming back for more not tiring or getting hurt at all. And if we are allowed to enable all of Mjior's abilities, we should then enable all of Juggernaut's as well.

#29 Posted by Schmalzel (367 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk and Juggy got this, even with Thor using all his abilities... as far as I remember (even WWH) madder he gets the stronger he gets and Juggernaut's ability is more then just his strength and ability with the crystal he has, he could last practically forever unless the Crystal is ripped out of him. I mean after Thors hammer even absorbed some of the power from him, he still withstood attacks from the hammer... combine that with he never tires and Hulk... Thor loses this one.

#30 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Floopay said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@NerdsFTW said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: He's negated Juggernaut's defenses before and godblasted him.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No.

Did the God Blast work?

Did he temporarily negated Juggernaut's forcefield or negated Juggernaut's durability and strength?

As I recall he disabled the Juggernaut's forcefield and it was still a pretty potent fight.

However, I see Thor BFRing Hulk the way he did when he was Nul.

Then I see a 50/50 fight. Juggernaut should be able to take him if BFR is disabled. But if we include all Thor's hammers feats and say they are valid (which we are apparently), then Thor should be able to take this.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

If I remember, He took out the forcefield momentarily, but still couldn't harm the Juggernaut. Juggernaut still taking the bloodlusted hits, and Thor was getting exhauted with each blow, while Juggernaut was still coming back for more not tiring or getting hurt at all. And if we are allowed to enable all of Mjior's abilities, we should then enable all of Juggernaut's as well.

I didn't make the match, I just abide by the rules. Which means BFR is a possibility :P

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#31 Posted by Z3RO180 (6719 posts) - - Show Bio

thor

#32 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: @jimroote99: @Malevolent1: @venomoushatred1001: Can the godblast harm Hulk?

#33 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Floopay: @jimroote99: @Malevolent1: @venomoushatred1001: Can the godblast harm Hulk?

It should. It stopped the Juggernaut in his tracks and drove Galactus back. I seem to remember reading that there is enough destructive power in Mjolnir to destroy a galaxy. Not sure where I read that....

#34 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Malevolent1 said:

It should. It stopped the Juggernaut in his tracks and drove Galactus back. I seem to remember reading that there is enough destructive power in Mjolnir to destroy a galaxy. Not sure where I read that....

Thor #407: Mjolnir absorbing an explosion that would have decimated the galaxy:
#35 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Floopay: @jimroote99: @Malevolent1: @venomoushatred1001: Can the godblast harm Hulk?

It's put down people well above Hulk before, there's no reason it shouldn't decimate him.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#36 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay: Different question, has Thor actually used it on Hulk?

#37 Posted by jimroote99 (265 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: you kidding me? it would completely vaporize him

#38 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Floopay: Different question, has Thor actually used it on Hulk?

No, usually Thor prefers to go toe to toe with the Hulk. He rarely even uses flight against the Hulk. If Thor were to utilize his powers to their full potential, he would be able to stomp him.

In a What If? comic, Thor kills Hulk with a single lightning bolt. In Fear Itself he BFRs him with a lightning bolt as well.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#39 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@jimroote99: @Floopay:

His best godblast feat is shattering Exitar's dome, but it was with the belt of strength and on top of that it shattered mjolnir and on top of that Exitar didn't even feel it and his armor healed instantly:

That's why I'm asking if it's really all that deadly.

#40 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

No, usually Thor prefers to go toe to toe with the Hulk.

You mean Thor holds back?

#41 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@jimroote99: @Floopay:

His best godblast feat is shattering Exitar's dome, but it was with the belt of strength and on top of that it shattered mjolnir and on top of that Exitar didn't even feel it and his armor healed instantly:

That's why I'm asking if it's really all that deadly.

Considering Exitar was one of like 4 Celestials that pretty much walked through Asgard without ever sustaining any harm, I don't think that's that small of a feat...Hulk wouldn't even be able to touch a Celestial without being vaporized, much less temporarily destroy a piece of it's armor.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#42 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Floopay said:

No, usually Thor prefers to go toe to toe with the Hulk.

You mean Thor holds back?

Well, yes and no. Thor doesn't need to hold back in terms strength, but he does hold back in terms of speed, and versatility. Because of this, Hulk can go so far as to KO him.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#43 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay.

#44 Posted by jimroote99 (265 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: if you ask me thats a pretty good feat, i mean that big guy is a celestial, so of course thor wont stand much of a chance. and if your not too big on that feat, thors god blast also injured a weak galactus pretty well, so i mean its powerful alright. its something that would definitely give hulk hell

#45 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@jimroote99: @Floopay: Thanks for the input.

#46 Posted by jimroote99 (265 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW: no problem

#47 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Even Stan lee says hulk is the " strongest there is" since when is juggernaut stronger? I know Thor has more powers and juggernaut is nearly indestructible but hulk has beat him before and I know jugs has beat him too but there is no one with more strength than hulk,,,even the beyonder remarked on how limitless his strength is before he was ret-conned.

#48 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

@NerdsFTW said:

@Malevolent1 said:

It should. It stopped the Juggernaut in his tracks and drove Galactus back. I seem to remember reading that there is enough destructive power in Mjolnir to destroy a galaxy. Not sure where I read that....

Thor #407: Mjolnir absorbing an explosion that would have decimated the galaxy:

Bingo. Sweet.

#49 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bane_of_sith said:

Even Stan lee says hulk is the " strongest there is" since when is juggernaut stronger? I know Thor has more powers and juggernaut is nearly indestructible but hulk has beat him before and I know jugs has beat him too but there is no one with more strength than hulk,,,even the beyonder remarked on how limitless his strength is before he was ret-conned.

He isn't.

@Malevolent1: Cool.

#50 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3630 posts) - - Show Bio
@NerdsFTW

@Bane_of_sith said:

Even Stan lee says hulk is the " strongest there is" since when is juggernaut stronger? I know Thor has more powers and juggernaut is nearly indestructible but hulk has beat him before and I know jugs has beat him too but there is no one with more strength than hulk,,,even the beyonder remarked on how limitless his strength is before he was ret-conned.

He isn't.

@Malevolent1: Cool.

Hulk's base strength isn't as strong as thor or juggs. But an enraged hulk can keep getting stronger till he overpower them. Hulk's rage is said to be limitless also much like his strength.