Thor vs. Gandalf

Gandalf is on a quest and encounters Thor, the two go at it, who wins? and its gandalf the white

Gandalf  could use the  u shall not pass spell or  unworthfy Thor, got to go Gandalf

Thor throws moon at him.

Gandalf is the man and all, but "movie" Gandalf damn-near gets one-shotted by Thor. Gandalf from the books may possible stand a better chance.

Spite towards gandalf.

@TheTmac: what advantages would Gandalf have over Thor ?

Thor ftw

@fatalsniper728: I cant think of any thats why I said spite towards Gnadalf.

As in Gandalf will lose badly.

Gandalf dies lol

@Bo88gdan said:

Thor

@evilvegeta74: lol

Gandalf the featless wizard who almost never casts spells vs. a guy who can throw his hammer through a planet?

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Gandalf can pretty much come back any time he wants from death (no, eru iluvitar isn't the only one who can bring things back, seeing as gandalf is a maia and they never properly die (unless the valar put his soul intothe void, but they like gandalf) like the elves who can also return if they wish from the halls of valinor), and Thor can't. I don't know much about the comic book versions, but Norse gods could be, and frequently were, killed. Gandalf is 'featless' as he isn't allowed unleash his full power because the valar don't want another sauron on their hands. Add that to the fact that middle earth magic deals more with the mind, Thor would be destroyed by gandalf's sheer willpower. Physical power means nothing against this kind of power.

@radagastofrhosgobel said:

Gandalf can pretty much come back any time he wants from death (no, eru iluvitar isn't the only one who can bring things back, seeing as gandalf is a maia and they never properly die (unless the valar put his soul intothe void, but they like gandalf) like the elves who can also return if they wish from the halls of valinor), and Thor can't. I don't know much about the comic book versions, but Norse gods could be, and frequently were, killed. Gandalf is 'featless' as he isn't allowed unleash his full power because the valar don't want another sauron on their hands. Add that to the fact that middle earth magic deals more with the mind, Thor would be destroyed by gandalf's sheer willpower. Physical power means nothing against this kind of power.

When did Gandalf came back after being hit by a full cosmic hurricane?

This is a massive stomp in Thor's favor.

@SHAZAM117: No. "Movie" Gandalf can't really die because he gets sent back to protect middle earth. You can't kill something that will not die.

Gandalf wins.

Thor crushes him

Thor

Thor wrecks.

@HughJackmanFan88 said:

@SHAZAM117: No. "Movie" Gandalf can't really die because he gets sent back to protect middle earth. You can't kill something that will not die.

Gandalf wins.

@ShootingNova said:

Is this Comic Thor? I think so.

@Vaeternus said:

@HughJackmanFan88 said:

@SHAZAM117: No. "Movie" Gandalf can't really die because he gets sent back to protect middle earth. You can't kill something that will not die.

Gandalf wins.

This is always being said over and over again. Unless Gandalf gains divine intervention from Eru Illuvatar (which is not stipulated in this thread) this is a meaningless point. Another thing to mention is that Gandalf was killed, he did die, but he was resurrected from Eru Illuvatar. So yes, you can kill Gandalf, and one death equals out unless stipulations say otherwise, which they don't here.

Also, is Gandalf book or movie? Regardless, I think both versions are very likely to lose.

Yes but the other guy's point and he's right is that Gandalf stll comes back, and i just want to point out that even though the op clearly says gandalf the white, people are saying thor wins since gandalf died fighting a balrog...meanwhile that was gandalf the grey who is vastly inferior to gandalf the white...this is why i hate lotr topics, people dont know much about lotr much less anything outside of comics so ive noticed.

The book gandalf is far more powerful then movie versions, and same can be said for thor.....he was hardly impressive in the films...

I suspect Thor could defeat anyone in Tolkien universe apart from Ilúvatar.

perhaps as gandalf's physical body but not what powers him.

Illu>>>anything thor has. movie version wasnt impressive at all.

I was referring to others concerning the gandalf differences...which is why i said people in general obviously dont follow lotr...

@ShootingNova said:

This is always being said over and over again. Unless Gandalf gains divine intervention from Eru Illuvatar (which is not stipulated in this thread) this is a meaningless point. Another thing to mention is that Gandalf was killed, he did die, but he was resurrected from Eru Illuvatar. So yes, you can kill Gandalf, and one death equals out unless stipulations say otherwise, which they don't here.

Technically Gandalf did not die, but his physical body did die. His spirit did leave Arda but he was still "alive". The same thing happened three times to Sauron, although his spirit did not leave Arda, first when Illuvatar destroyed Númenor, secondary when he was defeated during the war of the last alliance, and lastly when the one ring was destroyed. Once the ring was destroyed his essence became a shadow of malice not able to take physical form. Although he might return for the final battle.

@HughJackmanFan88 said:

@SHAZAM117: No. "Movie" Gandalf can't really die because he gets sent back to protect middle earth. You can't kill something that will not die.

Gandalf wins.

Gandalf's coming back feat wasn't a feat for him-it was a feat for Eru. Plus Gandalf lacks magical feats.

Gandalf will just call many birds to come to his aid and rip up Thor's flesh from his bones.

YOU SHALL NOT PASS and then mlojnir broke his spine

@Pyrogram said:

Thor makes gandalf look like an old man.

Thor is actually much older than Gandalf. Just saying

Actually, in LOTU Gandalf is considered arguably the oldest character besides Ilu, Sauron etc practically the beginning of LOTRU. And perhaps Galandri is up there too being immortal and all.

Thor is not as old as MU, so technically Gandalf is older then Thor.

@AverageMan, gandalf helped create the ME universe, which is older than the marvel universe, so gandalf is older.

For everyone else, Elves can pretty much come back to earth from valinor as they please, therefore coming back to life. Gandalf is more immortal than them, as he us a maia, and so doesn't need eru's help to return. Gandalf just keeps coming back, as only men (and by extension, hobbits) actually die in middle earth, in that they would need divine intervention to reincarnate (dwarves, ents etc. Unspecified. Interestingly, seeing as orcs are former elves, they shouldn't (permanently) die either, but the valar would likely cast their souls into the void), and gandalf predates the first children of illuvitar (elves), gandalf, saruman, durin's bane, melkor and sauron have the same rules, but illuvitar and the valarjust puts their souls into the void, preventing a return. So illuvitar can stop gandalf's return easily if he wanted to, but he likely wouldn't. don't even try to argue that Odin would beat eru.

also, people seem to be forgetting gandalf would destroy Thor's mind through sheer willpower, so Thor's physical powers are irrelevant. Also, gandalf wasn't allowed any feats by manwë, not because of lack of ability. Thor, the original god that the comic book version is a depowered version of couldn't even stand up to olorin.

@radagastofrhosgobel said:

@AverageMan, gandalf helped create the ME universe, which is older than the marvel universe, so gandalf is older.

For everyone else, Elves can pretty much come back to earth from valinor as they please, therefore coming back to life. Gandalf is more immortal than them, as he us a maia, and so doesn't need eru's help to return. Gandalf just keeps coming back, as only men (and by extension, hobbits) actually die in middle earth, in that they would need divine intervention to reincarnate (dwarves, ents etc. Unspecified. Interestingly, seeing as orcs are former elves, they shouldn't (permanently) die either, but the valar would likely cast their souls into the void), and gandalf predates the first children of illuvitar (elves), gandalf, saruman, durin's bane, melkor and sauron have the same rules, but illuvitar and the valarjust puts their souls into the void, preventing a return. So illuvitar can stop gandalf's return easily if he wanted to, but he likely wouldn't. don't even try to argue that Odin would beat eru.

also, people seem to be forgetting gandalf would destroy Thor's mind through sheer willpower, so Thor's physical powers are irrelevant. Also, gandalf wasn't allowed any feats by manwë, not because of lack of ability. Thor, the original god that the comic book version is a depowered version of couldn't even stand up to olorin.

Damn, well said post man. Very interesting and you raise good points. Especially the original concept of Thor wasn't that powerful this is true. Once he hit Marvel comics they made him into this "uber powered" being. But I agree, nobody should even think of arguing Odin Force can touch Eru's power...

@radagastofrhosgobel said:

@AverageMan, gandalf helped create the ME universe, which is older than the marvel universe, so gandalf is older.

For everyone else, Elves can pretty much come back to earth from valinor as they please, therefore coming back to life. Gandalf is more immortal than them, as he us a maia, and so doesn't need eru's help to return. Gandalf just keeps coming back, as only men (and by extension, hobbits) actually die in middle earth, in that they would need divine intervention to reincarnate (dwarves, ents etc. Unspecified. Interestingly, seeing as orcs are former elves, they shouldn't (permanently) die either, but the valar would likely cast their souls into the void), and gandalf predates the first children of illuvitar (elves), gandalf, saruman, durin's bane, melkor and sauron have the same rules, but illuvitar and the valarjust puts their souls into the void, preventing a return. So illuvitar can stop gandalf's return easily if he wanted to, but he likely wouldn't. don't even try to argue that Odin would beat eru.

also, people seem to be forgetting gandalf would destroy Thor's mind through sheer willpower, so Thor's physical powers are irrelevant. Also, gandalf wasn't allowed any feats by manwë, not because of lack of ability. Thor, the original god that the comic book version is a depowered version of couldn't even stand up to olorin.

Gandalf the Spirit is as old as all of Arda itself. Gandalf the Wizard is (if he stops living once he gets to Valinor) exactly 2021 years old. All of the Istari reached middle earth 1000 years into the third age, and since the third age lasted until 3021, when the ringbearers departed from the Gray Havens, do the math, and you get 2021 years of age. Thor must be at least older than 2000 years old, because he was worshiped by the people of Scandinavia and Germany.

@Pyrogram said:

@AverageMan said:

@Pyrogram said:

Thor makes gandalf look like an old man.

Thor is actually much older than Gandalf. Just saying

That is why he looks like an old man...

Thor destroy the world.

Thor has sparred with Galactus, the devourer of worlds.

Gandalf slipped off a bridge and needed divine intervention to survive it