#1 Edited by theDCkid (874 posts) - - Show Bio

round 1-captain boomerang

2-mirror master

3-weather wizard

4-gorilla grodd

5-zoom

edit: 6-captain cold

all morals on, Thor doesn't get rest between fights and continues to the next one as he is.

villains get an hour prep each. How far does thor make it?, if he wins all rounds how damaged is he?, what was the most challenging fight?

#2 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

No Captain Cold?

Anyways he doesn't make it past round two. Mirror Master BFR's him to the Mirror Dimension.

Captain Boomerang could also put up a good fight; but it depends on which one it is and which version. Owen Mercer with the Speed Force could probably take Thor, and and George Harkness after his ressurection probably could have, but not when he was originally alive.

#3 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

Mirror Master probably bfrs him.

No matter what he's not taking Zoom, assuming it's just plain Zoom.

#4 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

1-captain boomerang --> Thor wins

2-mirror master --> i'm not sure Thor can win this, it can go either ways

3-weather wizard --> Thor wins

4-gorilla grodd --> i'll give it barely to Thor

5-zoom --> Zoom wins

#5 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not one to root for Thor, but can't he just teleport out of Mirror Master's dimension?

#6 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

I'm not one to root for Thor, but can't he just teleport out of Mirror Master's dimension?

Good point.

Still I think it's agreed he's not getting through Zoom.

#7 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@Decoy Elite: Unless Thor uses his TIME MANIPULATION POWERS. I'm sure he's displayed that during his ridiculous classic run.
#8 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

I'm not one to root for Thor, but can't he just teleport out of Mirror Master's dimension?

To my knowledge Thor doesn't have teleportation as a power. And even if he did; teleportation is a far cry from dimensional travel.

#9 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.
#10 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.

Maybe... but unless otherwise stated it's current versions.

#11 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

@rpottage said:

@texasdeathmatch said:

@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.

Maybe... but unless otherwise stated it's current versions.

i think Thor has interdimensional teleportation or gate open, i remember in some scan he opened a gate to Negative Zone. i'm sure some Thor fans will come out later with the specific scan

#12 Posted by Dredeuced (5313 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Zoom. Zoom, Prof Zoom, Black Racer and maybe Kadabra are the only one of Wally's enemies that can really compete with Thor's huge list of powers. Grodd's a pretty good prep master but 1 hour wouldn't be nearly enough.

#13 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder said:

@rpottage said:

@texasdeathmatch said:

@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.

Maybe... but unless otherwise stated it's current versions.

i think Thor has interdimensional teleportation or gate open, i remember in some scan he opened a gate to Negative Zone. i'm sure some Thor fans will come out later with the specific scan

At one point Thor could use his Hammer to do it by spinning his hammer; but I don't know if he still can. And even if he can still do that; Thor uses his Hammer offensively, throwing it at people. Mirror Master would just send it to the mirror dimension leaving Thor without it (Or sending Thor to the Mirror dimension without the Hammer).

#14 Posted by theDCkid (874 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay captain cold can be round six.

#15 Posted by theDCkid (874 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced: one hour is enough time to build something sciency (and eat several bananas).

#16 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

@rpottage said:

@All_Mighty_Beyonder said:

@rpottage said:

@texasdeathmatch said:

@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.

Maybe... but unless otherwise stated it's current versions.

i think Thor has interdimensional teleportation or gate open, i remember in some scan he opened a gate to Negative Zone. i'm sure some Thor fans will come out later with the specific scan

At one point Thor could use his Hammer to do it by spinning his hammer; but I don't know if he still can. And even if he can still do that; Thor uses his Hammer offensively, throwing it at people. Mirror Master would just send it to the mirror dimension leaving Thor without it (Or sending Thor to the Mirror dimension without the Hammer).

yes that why i said in early post : "2-mirror master --> i'm not sure Thor can win this, it can go either ways"

#17 Posted by New_World_Order (12471 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite said:

Mirror Master probably bfrs him.

No matter what he's not taking Zoom, assuming it's just plain Zoom.

Thor can teleport. He BFR's all of them too either a sun, black hole, negative zone, or microverse.

#18 Posted by Dredeuced (5313 posts) - - Show Bio

@theDCkid said:

@Dredeuced: one hour is enough time to build something sciency (and eat several bananas).

Oh I know, I'm just saying that's not nearly enough time to study thor and devise some crappy plot device item that saps Thor of his mjolnir control or something like he does to Flash a dozen times.

#19 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@Decoy Elite said:

Mirror Master probably bfrs him.

No matter what he's not taking Zoom, assuming it's just plain Zoom.

Thor can teleport. He BFR's all of them too either a sun, black hole, negative zone, or microverse.

Don't think it's in character for him to immediately do that and even then it probably wouldn't be deployed quick enough to work on Zoom.

#20 Posted by New_World_Order (12471 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.

I'm a Thor fan, and here is what I got for you.

Rips open the boundries of space, and time to teleport.

Thor teleported Wasp to the microverse, during Secret Invasion.

#21 Posted by chiq (1904 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch: I don't think Thor can time travel anymore. Immortus took that power out IIRC.

#22 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@texasdeathmatch said:

@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.

I'm a Thor fan, and here is what I got for you.

Rips open the boundries of space, and time to teleport.

Thor teleported Wasp to the microverse, during Secret Invasion.

Teleportation isn't the same as dimensional travel. Besides; I already pointed out his means of doing so is by spinning his hammer, which Mirror Master can easily BFR via mirrior dimensions. The second Thor throws his hammer (which is practically his default move), his hammer is gone.

#23 Posted by Esquire (3832 posts) - - Show Bio

Owen Cap could hang around for a while, but he can't really put Thor down. Same with Digger, although he'll probably go down faster without the speed-bursts.

Mirror Master can take Thor even disregarding BFR. Transmutation, mental manipulation, turn him inside out, etc. He can make a ridiculous amount of copies and illusions in an hour, as well. And if he does get Thor into a mirror dimension, he's pretty much god there. He can control time, attack with mirror versions of other characters, he could continuously transport Mjolnir into another dimension every time it returns, etc. He has far better reflexes, too.

Thor has better weather feats than Weather Wizard, and the durability to hang around long enough to get some hits in. Not much to argue in this one.

Grodd can win via TP depending on who's writing Thor. He loses in a physical brawl, but he's got the durability to stand up a couple of hits from in-character Thor, which may give him enough time to mindwipe, disorient, psi-bolt, or the like.

Zoom is far, far, far too fast for Thor, and he hits harder than Superman. Zoom dominates.

Captain Cold has a good chance. He can certainly outreact Thor, and his absolute zero blasts should be able to put the Thunder God down. Assuming Thor can't tank a bunch of them, Snart wins.

#24 Posted by New_World_Order (12471 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite: That's true, but it's still a possibility.

#25 Posted by New_World_Order (12471 posts) - - Show Bio

@rpottage: Doesn't matter. I just showed a scan of Thor teleporting Wasp from eart to the microverse. There not escaping that ! Mjolnir has transended time, and space ot reach Thor in Valaha, so again no.

#26 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4880 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Zoom

#27 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@rpottage: Doesn't matter. I just showed a scan of Thor teleporting Wasp from eart to the microverse. There not escaping that ! Mjolnir has transended time, and space ot reach Thor in Valaha, so again no.

That does matter, and yes; mirror master absolutely is escaping that.

And Valhalla is a region in Asgard; that's not transcending time and space.

#28 Posted by New_World_Order (12471 posts) - - Show Bio

@rpottage said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@rpottage: Doesn't matter. I just showed a scan of Thor teleporting Wasp from eart to the microverse. There not escaping that ! Mjolnir has transended time, and space ot reach Thor in Valaha, so again no.

That does matter, and yes; mirror master absolutely is escaping that.

And Valhalla is a region in Asgard; that's not transcending time and space.

Valhalla is not a place in Asgard. It's heaven for gods, meaing it's in a different realm. Actually my bad it was Thor about to get eaten by the Deomogorge. Might as well just show you.

#29 Edited by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath:

That's not transcending space and time; that's simply moving fast. Huge difference. As for Valhalla:

 


 
You'll note Valhalla is on the actual continent, right beside Asgard. That's from The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition #1 (December 1985)

#30 Posted by chiq (1904 posts) - - Show Bio

@rpottage: Thanos BFR'ed the hammer but it came back IIRC. after 60 seconds.

#31 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq said:

@rpottage: Thanos BFR'ed the hammer but it came back IIRC. after 60 seconds.

BFR'd where and came back how?

#32 Edited by chiq (1904 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it happend in the infinity gaunlet series. not sure where he BFR'ed the hammer though....Thanos also bfr'd drax and firelord into earth's distant past IIRC Not sure which gem he used to do it...time or space i guess..

Thor would be without his hammer for a time though

#33 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

thor stops at zoom or clears it

#34 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@rpottage: I guarantee you if you wait long enough, some Thor fan is going to drop a scan from the 60's showing him teleporting between dimensions.

LOL. So what though?

#35 Posted by theDCkid (874 posts) - - Show Bio

Is thor vulnerable to a telepathic attack from grodd?

#36 Posted by Dredeuced (5313 posts) - - Show Bio

@theDCkid said:

Is thor vulnerable to a telepathic attack from grodd?

Depends on the writer. Sometimes TP affects him, sometimes it doesn't.

#37 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

@theDCkid said:

Is thor vulnerable to a telepathic attack from grodd?

Depends on the writer. Sometimes TP affects him, sometimes it doesn't.

Does it depend on the writer or the telepath? I wish I knew every instance of TP assault on Thor.

#38 Edited by Dredeuced (5313 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW said:

@Dredeuced said:

@theDCkid said:

Is thor vulnerable to a telepathic attack from grodd?

Depends on the writer. Sometimes TP affects him, sometimes it doesn't.

Does it depend on the writer or the telepath? I wish I knew every instance of TP assault on Thor.

I dunno. He got screwed around with by Moondragon(which was really, really creepy), but Emma Frost couldn't do crap to him. I think he's more often than not resistant to telepathy, but falters here and there.

#39 Posted by Esquire (3832 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

@ToO_RaW said:

@Dredeuced said:

@theDCkid said:

Is thor vulnerable to a telepathic attack from grodd?

Depends on the writer. Sometimes TP affects him, sometimes it doesn't.

Does it depend on the writer or the telepath? I wish I knew every instance of TP assault on Thor.

I dunno. He got screwed around with by Moondragon(which was really, really creepy), but Emma Frost couldn't do crap to him. I think he's more often than not resistant to telepathy, but falters here and there.

He also got dominated by Xavier pretty recently. Loki's gotten through his defenses several times over the years, and Tutinax was able to use his fear powers. Doc Ock took over his mind with octobots in Ends of the Earth, which sort of counts. I know there are other times, but I can't think of them right now. He has some high showings, certainly, but he also has low ones. It's never been very consistent.

#40 Posted by entropy_aegis (14208 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

Stops at Zoom. Zoom, Prof Zoom, Black Racer and maybe Kadabra are the only one of Wally's enemies that can really compete with Thor's huge list of powers. Grodd's a pretty good prep master but 1 hour wouldn't be nearly enough.

Black Racer is not a Flash villain,Black Flash though is.

#41 Posted by Saren (25272 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@Dredeuced said:

Stops at Zoom. Zoom, Prof Zoom, Black Racer and maybe Kadabra are the only one of Wally's enemies that can really compete with Thor's huge list of powers. Grodd's a pretty good prep master but 1 hour wouldn't be nearly enough.

Black Racer is not a Flash villain,Black Flash though is.

Morrison made them the same character in Final Crisis. They're just different versions of the same concept; Black Racer being the herald of death for the New Gods and the Black Flash being the herald of death for speedsters.

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#42 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't see him getting past Mirror Master.He'll BFR him in the Mirror world and Thor will lose.

#43 Posted by entropy_aegis (14208 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Dredeuced said:

Stops at Zoom. Zoom, Prof Zoom, Black Racer and maybe Kadabra are the only one of Wally's enemies that can really compete with Thor's huge list of powers. Grodd's a pretty good prep master but 1 hour wouldn't be nearly enough.

Black Racer is not a Flash villain,Black Flash though is.

Morrison made them the same character in Final Crisis. They're just different versions of the same concept; Black Racer being the herald of death for the New Gods and the Black Flash being the herald of death for speedsters.

So is Black Flash an avatar of the Black Racer?

#44 Posted by Saren (25272 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@CitizenBane said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Dredeuced said:

Stops at Zoom. Zoom, Prof Zoom, Black Racer and maybe Kadabra are the only one of Wally's enemies that can really compete with Thor's huge list of powers. Grodd's a pretty good prep master but 1 hour wouldn't be nearly enough.

Black Racer is not a Flash villain,Black Flash though is.

Morrison made them the same character in Final Crisis. They're just different versions of the same concept; Black Racer being the herald of death for the New Gods and the Black Flash being the herald of death for speedsters.

So is Black Flash an avatar of the Black Racer?

Two different forms of the same character. This is the scene from FC where Wally says they're the same:

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#45 Posted by toptom (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

thor can defeat anyone here but zoom(probably). it depends if he starts the fight while he is in air.

has wonderwoman defeated zoom? i don't remeber that fight very well.

#46 Posted by BigCimmerian (7849 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor destroys everyone except Zoom.

#47 Posted by Pyrogram (35044 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor stops at zoom.

#48 Posted by entropy_aegis (14208 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@CitizenBane said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@Dredeuced said:

Stops at Zoom. Zoom, Prof Zoom, Black Racer and maybe Kadabra are the only one of Wally's enemies that can really compete with Thor's huge list of powers. Grodd's a pretty good prep master but 1 hour wouldn't be nearly enough.

Black Racer is not a Flash villain,Black Flash though is.

Morrison made them the same character in Final Crisis. They're just different versions of the same concept; Black Racer being the herald of death for the New Gods and the Black Flash being the herald of death for speedsters.

So is Black Flash an avatar of the Black Racer?

Two different forms of the same character. This is the scene from FC where Wally says they're the same:

Hmmm how the f*ck could I have missed that? so BR can manipulate the Speed Force too? cool.