@nathaniel_adam said:
Thor
Why? There is no way he could win this. Alan Scott is above Superman level, and it's usually around 50-50 when people pit Thor against Superman.
Thor vs Alan Scott (New 52)
@nathaniel_adam said:
@poeticwarrior: @poeticwarrior: superman vs thor is a different fight most of people think that superman wins because he has significantly better combat speed but here not in this case alan has other powers to use from what i've seen he doesn't fight like a speedster I won't deny that he has derinitely great Potential but for now i think that he hasn't (he has a few appearances not enough maybe when he has more I will change my opinion) better feats than Thor just now
I don't see what Thor can do to Alan that could possibly put him down unless he destroyed the entire Earth. The green energy will resurrect Alan if he gets killed, and he recovered very quickly after being hit by the omega beam and healed everyone at the same time. Alan can turn into a giant as well. I don't see what Thor has that could put Alan down for good when he could defend against Omega Beam and throw a punch that throw Darkseid back and knocked him out for a while as well as a blast that is many time stronger than Superman's punches. How big of a cut would he make against a giant Alan Scott assuming that he could get through Alan's blast, break through his shield, and avoid Alan's punch?
Of course you are free to think otherwise, but this is a debate forum, and I haven't heard how Thor could defeat Alan Scott with so many things working against him.
@poeticwarrior said:
Shoot, accidentally deleted my post while trying to edit it.
I feel like Alan Scott should take this. The new Alan Scott knocked out Darkseid with one punch (This is right before Darkseid defeated Power Girl, Hawkgirl, Huntress, Dr. Fate, Aquawoman, Green Arrow, Superman, Red Cyclone, Flash, Batman all by himself twice since Alan Scott healed them up right before fighting Darkseid), and can block Omega beam, as well as blast through a substance that is stronger than superman's punches. He created a shield protecting the entire Earth against Apokolips all by himself.
Here are some of his feats:
Apokolips is powerful enough that Superman's series of punches can't even dent it.
Alan Scott can puncture through and create a giant hole through it that can be seen from space
He can also form a shield that reaches and protect the entire Earth
He can heal everyone using green energy.
He can block Omega beam and use the multiverse energy to knock out Darkseid with one punch.
His power is widespread and can target many people at many places at the same time
It travels very fast and reaches through space.
Yep Alan takes this
@nathaniel_adam said:
@poeticwarrior: actaully the omega beams knocked him out or even killed him because he was down for a while then got back up in order to defeat darkseid he summoned energy from the green or whatever source to defeat darkseid as you see energy from the sky swirling if I remember correctly though even if this is not a feat for alan thor is not on darkseid's level so it doesn't mean alan can't beat thor
Did you read the actual comic? He got hit by the Omega Beam the first time because the Earth was weakened and he hadn't tapped into the Green energy's true potential yet, but even as he was weakened, he healed everybody up, then as he embraces and becomes one with the energy, that is when he can utilize its full potential which is how he could block Omega Beam and knock out Darkseid using the multiversal energy punch. It is not an outside power, it is a part of his power, he didn't summon the green energy, that energy is a part of him, it is his feat, and he could replicate it anytime. I'm not sure what those swirls are during the scene where he knocks out Darkseid, but the power is emanated from him. It's likely to be some confusion in the art seeing as it has nothing to do with the scene, so I don't even know how you associate it with the swirls in the sky giving Alan Scott power, His power is the Earth, ALL the Earths as he is a part of Earth's soul. He is the Earth's avatar. Someone who can knocked out Darkseid and do a blast that is many times more powerful than superman would win again Thor. Once again, you have not explained how Thor could beat him like what could Thor possibly do to defeat Alan Scott and how he could overcome his powers. I could make broad statements like Spiderman could beat Thor also since I don't think Thor's feats are that impressive. At this point, it's like people are just covering their ears going lah lah lah. Even the comic itself stated that only Alan Scott can put up a fight against darkseid whereas Power Girl, Superman, Flash, Aquawoman can't even fight him; his power is above these people's level, so I'm not sure why you keep undermine his abilities. Please explain to me instead of saying these broad statements like the steps of how Thor could overcome Alan's set of powers that I have talked about many times. how big of a cut can Thor make against a giant Alan Scott? Thor is durable enough that he can tank a blast that many times stronger than Superman's punches and planetary in size and a punch that knock out Darkseid? You haven't said anything as to how Thor can get past Alan's shield that defended against Omega Beam, a planetary blast that many times stronger than Superman's punches or how he could harm a giant Alan Scott that has the strength to knock out Darkseid, as well as get passed Alan's healing ability that instantly recovered from a blast from Omega Beam. Tell me the process of how he could beat Alan instead of just saying these broad statements. I want to know how Thor can get close to Alan Scott, get pass his shield, avoid his punch, damage a giant Alan Scott, and defeat Alan Scott before he heals himself. Even if he were killed, Alan Scott could resurrect himself.
Here is the scene before Alan knocks out Darkseid, he becomes the Earth's soul and can utilize multi-Earths energy. This is when he can finally utilize the multi-Earths' power after becomes one with it. All the Earth's elemental powers are flowing inside him and not an outside force. Saying he got hit by Omega Beam when he was weakened and not as his strongest yet is not a good argument seeing as how he could block it at close range and knocked out Darkseid after that.
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