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#1 Edited by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

I think most comic fans familiar with Thor can come to the obvious conclusion that he's been seriously downplayed for the majority of his comic book longevity. With that said, given all his powers and abilities used to their full potential, which superhero(s) or villains do you think can bring him down?

#2 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not called downplaying, it's called wielding a plot device for a weapon. That said, Darkseid and Thanos.

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#3 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#4 Posted by Boobster (1608 posts) - - Show Bio

By full potential, what does that mean ? We shouldn't take his defeats in account ?

#5 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

(Facepalm) Do you really want to start a flame war?

Anyway, Dormammu.

#6 Posted by Boobster (1608 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

(Facepalm) Do you really want to start a flame war?

Anyway, Dormammu.

Nay, winds from 1000 worlds will blow his flames off !!!!

#7 Edited by SlimJ87D (9950 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor. 
#8 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@Boobster said:

By full potential, what does that mean ? We shouldn't take his defeats in account ?

Basically means use all his abilities, including the ones that only appeared in single panels decades ago and were never seen again.

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#9 Posted by Boobster (1608 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Boobster said:

By full potential, what does that mean ? We shouldn't take his defeats in account ?

Basically means use all his abilities, including the ones that only appeared in single panels decades ago and were never seen again.

But can we take into accounts the times he was defeated or we cannot because "he wasn't using potential then" ? Because if every single ability, that is retarded. He once blocked an explosion of 1/5 universe, although I haven't read that comic myself and couldn't find it in my Thor collection.

#10 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor. 
Well obviously. He's just starting his Superhero career and he doesnt have any feats 
 
But seriously, Superman. 
If Thor is fighting to his full potential then so should his opponents. And Superman would beat Thor. 
#11 Posted by BearMane (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Sentry would be able to take Thor if they were fighting in an open setting

#12 Posted by SlimJ87D (9950 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000: When I said that I meant PRE-Flashpoint
#13 Posted by Saren (25681 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D said:

@buttersdaman000: When I said that I meant PRE-Flashpoint

Thor would only beat pre-Flashpoint Superman by going wildly out of character and pulling out obscure abilities, and even then it's doubtful.

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#14 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: When I said that I meant PRE-Flashpoint
But then you would be wrong. 
Supermans feats outclass Thors even if they arent as versatile 
#15 Posted by SlimJ87D (9950 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane@buttersdaman000:  
I know this is lame, but the topic is Thor with all  his most powerful feats... it's not a good topic. but if Thor could absorb a blast from the Phoenix, BFR the Juggernaut, and deflect a blast 1/5 of the Universes power that is quite ridiculous. 
#16 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@SlimJ87D:  
Im just being a stickler for speed 
One thing about that universe feat though; When was it made? I saw this brought up in another topic, concerning Odins' galaxy busting feat. One of the arguments against the feat actually being credible is that back then people didnt have the knowledge we have today. So its possible that a galaxy back then wasnt as big as a galaxy right now ya know. Now, I dont know the exact date the size of a galaxy was discovered but im pretty sure the size of the universe wasnt even guesstimated until the mid 90's. So its highly plausible that Thors feat is not as ridiculous or amazing as it really is. 
#17 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio

But then, if you accept that you also have to accept that Silver Age characters arent as impressive as they really are, right? And it really is a very nit picky approach..... 
......maybe its not a good argument....?

#18 Posted by SlimJ87D (9950 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000: To be honest I'm not really sure. I've just seen it posted along with him receiving and returning a phoenix force blast plus more. I could summon a specialist, my buddy @PunkMastaFlex: might take him awhile to get on though. He has 100s of Classic Thor scans. 
#19 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D said:

@CitizenBane: @buttersdaman000: I know this is lame, but the topic is Thor with all his most powerful feats... it's not a good topic. but if Thor could absorb a blast from the Phoenix, BFR the Juggernaut, and deflect a blast 1/5 of the Universes power that is quite ridiculous.

If I remember correctly, Thor absorbed the energy from the blast, he didnt deflect it.

#20 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman
#21 Posted by *Void* (874 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer at his peak not holding back at

#22 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@SlimJ87D:  
Ok thanks
#23 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrickster said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

No.

@buttersdaman000 said:

@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor.
Well obviously. He's just starting his Superhero career and he doesnt have any feats But seriously, Superman. If Thor is fighting to his full potential then so should his opponents. And Superman would beat Thor.

Thor at full potential would go intangible and still Superman's soul.

#24 Posted by karrob (4279 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting topic

#25 Posted by SlimJ87D (9950 posts) - - Show Bio
@MyronLee26: That's actually more impressive. I thought he just smacked it away. If he absorbs anything he can release it with his own power amping it as a God blast. 
#26 Posted by Mutant God (3022 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel Girl

#27 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@mrtrickster said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

No.

@buttersdaman000 said:

@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor.
Well obviously. He's just starting his Superhero career and he doesnt have any feats But seriously, Superman. If Thor is fighting to his full potential then so should his opponents. And Superman would beat Thor.

Thor at full potential would go intangible and still Superman's soul.

lol

#28 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D said:

@MyronLee26: That's actually more impressive. I thought he just smacked it away. If he absorbs anything he can release it with his own power amping it as a God blast.

#29 Posted by SlimJ87D (9950 posts) - - Show Bio
@karrob: I don't think it's really all that interesting since we are pulling all of Thor's PIS feats that have only occurred a number of times. 
#30 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

(Facepalm) Do you really want to start a flame war?

Anyway, Dormammu.

superman and hulk!

#31 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@demifiend said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

(Facepalm) Do you really want to start a flame war?

Anyway, Dormammu.

superman and hulk!

-___-

#32 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@MyronLee26:  
Ahh that scan. 
Where does it say that he absorbed 1/5 of the universe? Also is that armour just for show or is he amped by it? And do you know the date of that issue? 
 
@venomoushatred1001 said:

@mrtrickster said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

No.

@buttersdaman000 said:

@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor.
Well obviously. He's just starting his Superhero career and he doesnt have any feats But seriously, Superman. If Thor is fighting to his full potential then so should his opponents. And Superman would beat Thor.

Thor at full potential would go intangible and still Superman's soul.

Superman would go intangible and not let Thor steal his soul >_> 
Thor isnt fast enough either
#33 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@MyronLee26:
Ahh that scan.
Where does it say that he absorbed 1/5 of the universe? Also is that armour just for show or is he amped by it? And do you know the date of that issue?

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@mrtrickster said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

No.

@buttersdaman000 said:

@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor.
Well obviously. He's just starting his Superhero career and he doesnt have any feats But seriously, Superman. If Thor is fighting to his full potential then so should his opponents. And Superman would beat Thor.

Thor at full potential would go intangible and still Superman's soul.

Superman would go intangible and not let Thor steal his soul >_> Thor isnt fast enough either

Thor could instantly go intangible so I doubt it, and how the hell is Superman gonna stop Thor from stealing his soul? This is Post Crisis Superman, not that ridiculous Silver Age one. What is Superman going intangible going to do? Thor is capable of hurting intangible beings.

#34 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001:  
Superman is faster
#35 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@venomoushatred1001: Superman is faster

Thor is more versatle

#36 Posted by XiiX (8297 posts) - - Show Bio

-Flash

-Zoom

-Silver Surfer(before being de-powered)

-Superman(the title does say "COULD")

And many more......

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#37 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@MyronLee26:
Ahh that scan.
Where does it say that he absorbed 1/5 of the universe? Also is that armour just for show or is he amped by it? And do you know the date of that issue?

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@mrtrickster said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

No.

@buttersdaman000 said:

@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor.
Well obviously. He's just starting his Superhero career and he doesnt have any feats But seriously, Superman. If Thor is fighting to his full potential then so should his opponents. And Superman would beat Thor.

Thor at full potential would go intangible and still Superman's soul.

Superman would go intangible and not let Thor steal his soul >_> Thor isnt fast enough either

When did Superman display the ability to become intangible?

#38 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@venomoushatred1001: Superman is faster

Thor is more versatle

So? The old "Jack of all trades" comes to mind when I think of Thor.. 
Thor shares many of Supermans base powers (Super durability, strength, speed) but he is not on Superman's level in any of the them
#39 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@MyronLee26 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@MyronLee26:
Ahh that scan.
Where does it say that he absorbed 1/5 of the universe? Also is that armour just for show or is he amped by it? And do you know the date of that issue?

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@mrtrickster said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

Superman

No.

@buttersdaman000 said:

@SlimJ87D said:
@buttersdaman000: No, Flashpoint-52 Superman cannot beat Classic Thor.
Well obviously. He's just starting his Superhero career and he doesnt have any feats But seriously, Superman. If Thor is fighting to his full potential then so should his opponents. And Superman would beat Thor.

Thor at full potential would go intangible and still Superman's soul.

Superman would go intangible and not let Thor steal his soul >_> Thor isnt fast enough either

When did Superman display the ability to become intangible?

He can vibrate his molecules to the point of being intangible.

#40 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@venomoushatred1001: Superman is faster

Thor is more versatle

So? The old "Jack of all trades" comes to mind when I think of Thor.. Thor shares many of Supermans base powers (Super durability, strength, speed) but he is not on Superman's level in any of the them

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

#41 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@venomoushatred1001: Superman is faster

Thor is more versatle

So? The old "Jack of all trades" comes to mind when I think of Thor.. Thor shares many of Supermans base powers (Super durability, strength, speed) but he is not on Superman's level in any of the them

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Ok great! So we're agreed? 
If a person can move and operate at a much higher speed it doesnt matter what the other guy can do because he wont be able to hit him!! Makes sense, right?? 
 
Im glad we finally agreed on this. Whew!
#42 Edited by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

mua hahaha

#43 Posted by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

A sneak attack while he was fighting the Lion God, and PIS, IMO. Lol.

#44 Posted by Outside_85 (9046 posts) - - Show Bio

 


Good bet?
#45 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000 said:
Superman
Superman doesn't beat a Full Potential Thor at all.
#46 Edited by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:
Superman
Superman doesn't beat a Full Potential Thor at all.
#47 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9729 posts) - - Show Bio
@comicdude23@MyronLee26:  
No he does. 
Everybody on here is such a stickler for scans, feats, and proof yet its always on set bias. Superman has a scan that proves he has nano second reaction time. Thor has.....none. So until he catches up, he loses. Now im not saying OF or Rune King Thor loses. Alls im saying is that Regular Thor, fighting at full potential still gets beat by Regular Superman fighting at full potential. 
#48 Edited by XiiX (8297 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@comicdude23: @MyronLee26: No he does. Everybody on here is such a stickler for scans, feats, and proof yet its always on set bias. Superman has a scan that proves he has nano second reaction time. Thor has.....none. So until he catches up, he loses. Now im not saying OF or Rune King Thor loses. Alls im saying is that Regular Thor, fighting at full potential still gets beat by Regular Superman fighting at full potential.

Well put. I think people are too readily juxtaposing "could" with "will defeat him every time, hands-down".

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#49 Edited by MyronLee26 (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@comicdude23: @MyronLee26: No he does. Everybody on here is such a stickler for scans, feats, and proof yet its always on set bias. Superman has a scan that proves he has nano second reaction time. Thor has.....none. So until he catches up, he loses. Now im not saying OF or Rune King Thor loses. Alls im saying is that Regular Thor, fighting at full potential still gets beat by Regular Superman fighting at full potential.

So how do you explain how Superman gest defeated by guys that are nowhere near as fast as he is? Plus Thor has defeated speedsters before, shown, proven and claimed.

Its not saying that Supes doesnt have an advantage speed and he does, but its gonna take ALOT more than that to win the fight.

#50 Posted by pooty (11187 posts) - - Show Bio

@Boobster: @SlimJ87D: @MyronLee26: @buttersdaman000: Grandmaster stole Deaths power and played a game with heroes where he made 5 bombs that would destroy 1/5 of the universe. Thor found his bomb. Created a vortex around it and killed himself in the process.