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#2  Edited By coolguyr99

Stops at round 6?

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#3  Edited By cosmicallyaware1

no way he ever makes it past round 4. that's rough. who could?????

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#4  Edited By texasdeathmatch

Damn yeah, round 4 is terrifying.

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#5  Edited By Petey_is_Spidey

@vuviper: What version of Thor?

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#6  Edited By slimj87d

Wow... an IMP with Mjolnir would one shot almost everyone on here.

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#7  Edited By HolySerpent

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Round 6 is awesome.

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#10  Edited By nickthedevil

makes it to round 6.

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#11  Edited By ReVamp

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Round 6 is awesome.

IKR? I was just about to post that. Genius lol.

@SlimJ87D said:

Wow... an IMP with Mjolnir would one shot almost everyone on here.

IMP?

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#12  Edited By vuviper

@cosmicallyaware1: @texasdeathmatch:

Would Unipower or Power Cosmic make Supes or Gladiator fast enough to take out Thor quickly? It shouldn't be long before he could start stealing their speed

@ReVamp: Infinite Mass Punch

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#13  Edited By notquitevarsity

Thor dies in round 6. But round 4, 5, and 6 would be incredible to see.

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#14  Edited By ReVamp

@vuviper: A lol, thanks. I know what it is, I thought it was some Obscure Thor ability.

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#15  Edited By Saren

Round 6 is a horrifying idea.

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#16  Edited By TheCannon

Stops at round four. I don't think anyone or anything could stop Superman with the power cosmic. Maybe the One Above All.

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#17  Edited By beatboks1

@vuviper:

Damn NICE gauntlet !!!!

Three thumbs up (you didn't think I was normal did you ? ;))

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#18  Edited By majestic99

@ReVamp said:

@The Man of Yesteryear said:

Round 6 is awesome.

IKR? I was just about to post that. Genius lol.

@SlimJ87D said:

Wow... an IMP with Mjolnir would one shot almost everyone on here.

IMP?

What is IMP? Is this Odin Force/Rune King Thor?

@HolySerpent said:

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What does that mean?

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#19  Edited By ReVamp

@majestic99: Read the post above you, then ask questions mate. :)

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#20  Edited By slimj87d

@majestic99:

An IMP is a infinity mass punch that the Flash performs. It's when he punches someone at faster than light speed (FTL)

Force = mass x acceleration, he calls it an IMP because there's so much acceleration in the punch it's turning the force into infinity levels meaning that it's like mass is infinity also.

I have a more elaborated description of the IMP here:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/speed-vs-strength-common-misconceptions/608680/

So Thor with his hammer + the magic it carries + FTL strike into the face will be very very devastating. It would kill a normal Superman seeing that a normal IMP can oneshot a white martian, a magic amped Uru hammer going at FTL would just destroy someone.

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#21  Edited By majestic99

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@majestic99: Read the post above you, then ask questions mate. :)

What the THREE thumbs? I'll have to admit...SICK ASS gauntlet!! Sickest I've ever seen! This guy needs to make more battle threads!!!

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#22  Edited By majestic99

@SlimJ87D:

Well, then I have to say, he wins first 5 rounds.

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#23  Edited By vuviper

@Petey_is_Spidey: @majestic99:Not odinforce or Rune King

@TheCannon said:

Stops at round four. I don't think anyone or anything could stop Superman with the power cosmic. Maybe the One Above All.

Are you speculating or did he really display that level of power in the issue where Galactus made him his herald?

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Round 6 is a horrifying idea.

:-)

@beatboks1: I'm glad you like it, I thought it'd be fun.

@SlimJ87D: I think Thor may need to be a little more defensive and strategic than just running around IMPing everyone. Many of the rounds feature multiple opponents capable of reacting to FTL attacks, I definitely think he would connect with an IMP because of his superior reaction time, but it could leave him open for retaliation, especially in Round 4 where most member of the team could deal devastating if not fatal damage to him in one shot. Also round 5 if for whatever reason he goes for Ariella first and receive retaliation for Kal.

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#24  Edited By slimj87d

@vuviper: That's where the problem truly arises. Who can really react to an FTL attack. No one knows the exact number Flash was running at to pull off that IMP. But I want to leave this impression.

The White Martian has stats and reaction times similar to Superman and Green Martians. He was purely running on foot and not using any form of flying at all.

So imagine two people running in a straight line. Understand to one shot punch a person it takes a significant amount of speed plus body momentum. Flash running after the white martian means he couldn't have had hardly any body weight in the punch he performed. It was all the weight in his fist only or he had to dive forward in the same direction and punch which is still in the same direction.

What that all means above. Flash was running significantly faster than the white martian to pull of such a feat seeing as how they were running in the same direction.

So the question is, can the people in the other team truly react fast enough to receiving a FTL strike from a Uru magically striking hammer?

Note that Superman, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, etc and etc.s reaction times and limbs can only move proportionally to someone that can run at Mach 500.

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While someone powered by the speed force reacts and strikes proportionally to someone that can run at light speeds and possibly more.

I personally have not said how far he gets.

I imagine Flashes punch using his fist only compared to a normal person.

I imagine Thors hammer with magic compared to a normal person.

I compare it to the people's reacting ability in this gauntlet.

I put all the logic together and I reckon he makes it pretty damn far into the gauntlet.

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#25  Edited By jeanroygrant

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@HolySerpent said:

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#26  Edited By vuviper

@SlimJ87D: Actually Zoom and Wally were no longer running in the same direction, as Wally curved around so he could accelerate for the IMP. Also I remember calculating how fast Zum and Flash were running preIMP and it was almost 1/3 light speed so well above Mach 500 and we are talking about beings even faster that Superman and the like. Superman reconstructed a set of teleportation devices into a prison for Doomsday in a minute or so, where as Mr. Majestic thought up, began construction, scrapped, and rebuilt and new device from scrath in a fraction of a second. Superman has displayed nanosecond awareness where as Kal Kent claims that disabling a rocket red, freeing the pilot, and preventing the detonation of the bomb inside would only take a nanosecond. Gladiator already has displayed combat reflexes in the nanosecond range and in this fight would have his reflexes multiplied by the Uni Power. These people may or may not be as fast as Thor will be, but they should at least be fast enough to retaliate if Thor charges in a straight line for any of their allies.

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@venomoushatred1001 said:

@HolySerpent said:

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Is there something wrong with my thread?

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#27  Edited By slimj87d

@vuviper: I was referring to the White Martian vs Wally fight where he describes how his punches work.

This also depends on if this is classic Thor who has dozens of transmuting powers and strength possibly on par with New Earth Superman.

If they try to create a device, he could transmute it, perform Godblasts and absorb energies as well.

That's my 2 cents on everything. As how far he makes it, it's hard to say since there are hardly any feats for anyone being used here.

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#28  Edited By majestic99

Change my mind, Hunter Zolomon is faster than Wally West, so Thor loses round 6.

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#29  Edited By vuviper

@SlimJ87D said:

@vuviper: I was referring to the White Martian vs Wally fight where he describes how his punches work.

This also depends on if this is classic Thor who has dozens of transmuting powers and strength possibly on par with New Earth Superman.

If they try to create a device, he could transmute it, perform Godblasts and absorb energies as well.

That's my 2 cents on everything. As how far he makes it, it's hard to say since there are hardly any feats for anyone being used here.

I know if you look at the scan, Flash takes "the long way around" and meets back up with him to IMP, he isn't still traveling in the same direction.

And yeah Classic Thor i guess, I don't really know what that means.

I wasn't saying they would actually create a device, the point was to demonstrate that Thor's opponents in this battle are also in the faster than superman category

The person running the gauntlet doesn't have any feats either since he doesn't exist, feel free to speculate based on what you know about their power source and what has been displayed.

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#30  Edited By majestic99

@vuviper said:

And yeah Classic Thor i guess, I don't really know what that means.

You don't have to, most of his CRAZY feats happened back then(fighting Celestials, resisting the gravity of a neutron star, transmuting matter, teleporting beings into different dimensions,etc.)BUT.....it's still canon.

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#31  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@majestic99: Why are those feats canon? He's never done them in the last 40 years, I don't see why we would use them as plausible feats when writers are just making up plot device abilities in the 60s.

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#32  Edited By majestic99

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@majestic99: Why are those feats canon? He's never done them in the last 40 years, I don't see why we would use them as plausible feats when writers are just making up plot device abilities in the 60s.

If it happened in the mainstream universe, it's canon.

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#33  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@majestic99: While they are canon, it doesn't mean they're repeatable feats. That's like saying Symbiotie Spider-Man can beat Firelord anytime, or Black Panther can easily armlock Silver Surfer. Or Wildcat knocking out Solomon Grundy. Ya know?

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#34  Edited By majestic99

@texasdeathmatch said:

@majestic99: While they are canon, it doesn't mean they're repeatable feats. That's like saying Symbiotie Spider-Man can beat Firelord anytime, or Black Panther can easily armlock Silver Surfer. Or Wildcat knocking out Solomon Grundy. Ya know?

That's different, Symbiote Spiderman isn't standard Spiderman. The powers possessed by Classic Thor were supposed to his base powerset that he was always supposed to possess.

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#35  Edited By vuviper

@texasdeathmatch said:

@majestic99: While they are canon, it doesn't mean they're repeatable feats. That's like saying Symbiotie Spider-Man can beat Firelord anytime, or Black Panther can easily armlock Silver Surfer. Or Wildcat knocking out Solomon Grundy. Ya know?

Anyway do you think any of those powers will be a deciding factor in any of the battles? I think in most of these it's just who can take out who first. They all have the ability to destroy eachother

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#36  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@majestic99: Like I said, he hasn't done any of those abilities for 40 years, so I think its silly to assume he'd randomly use it now, in 2012.

@vuviper: Eh, I mean most of those wild abilities from the 60s would allow him to one shot most of these guys.

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#37  Edited By majestic99

@vuviper:

I already explained why its canon. Do I think it will be a deciding factor? His durability will allow to survive first 3 rounds, the Odin Force(which, when possessed by Thor, makes him a galaxy buster) combined with his power of molecular manipulation, will help him(again in my opinion) Round 4. Btw, is bfr/teleportation allowed?

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#38  Edited By ReVamp

Sigh.

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#39  Edited By majestic99

@texasdeathmatch said:

@majestic99: Like I said, he hasn't done any of those abilities for 40 years, so I think its silly to assume he'd randomly use it now, in 2012.

He still possesses them, so he can use it in these battles.

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#40  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@majestic99: But if he's "in character" - ah you know what, forget it.

Give Thor all the ridiculous powers and the Speed Force if you want. I don't care anymore, this is just turning into fan fiction.

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#41  Edited By vuviper

@majestic99: @texasdeathmatch: Haha to make things less complicated I'm going to go with Current Thor(someone let me know ASAP if he's de-powered or omniscient or something), also win by KO or death

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#42  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@vuviper: haha isn't current Thor dead?

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#43  Edited By vuviper

@texasdeathmatch said:

@vuviper: haha isn't current Thor dead?

Mighty Thor Series is current right? I think he was resurrected, then forgotten, and now is back. Or something like that, I don't know, someone that knows more should tell me

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#44  Edited By majestic99

@texasdeathmatch said:

@majestic99: But if he's "in character" - ah you know what, forget it.

Give Thor all the ridiculous powers and the Speed Force if you want. I don't care anymore, this is just turning into fan fiction.

I know he's in character.

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#45  Edited By majestic99

@vuviper said:

@majestic99: @texasdeathmatch: Haha to make things less complicated I'm going to go with Current Thor(someone let me know ASAP if he's de-powered or omniscient or something), also win by KO or death

Still possesses the same powers/abilities as Classic Thor. Sticking with my original post.

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#46  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@majestic99: Please stop replying to me about this.

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#47  Edited By majestic99

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@majestic99: Please stop replying to me about this.

You replied to me what are you?!...oh forget it.

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#48  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@majestic99: Alright dude, now you're just begging for me to get involved.

If a character is "in-character", what does that mean exactly? That means he's going to act like he does in his current appearances in comics, right? Therefore, why would he ever use an ability he hasn't used in over 40 years? The writers have changed throughout time, therefore they probably have different ideas and directions for Thor. It doesn't make sense for him to use an ability he hasn't used in over 4 decades, I don't see why you can't accept that other than your blatant fanboyism.

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#49  Edited By majestic99

@texasdeathmatch:

I'm not a fanboy. I don't believe Thor wins in EVERY fight.

And the reason he would use it is because it's still canon, meaning Thor still possesses it. Only reason Modern Thor doesn't use it is because writers don't write Thor like Stan Lee did.

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#50  Edited By AssertingValor

Thor clears it, he has shown power to damage exitar the celestial, and with wally wests speed he will be unstoppable........