@fallschirmjager: IIRC Thor has shown resistance to telepathy and some people say due to his Asgardian physiology, phasing doesn't work on him (not sure how true this is though)
Thor > J'onn on strength, durability and powers department. Lightning equals fire.
Thor is a least as strong as H'el if not stronger, have better durability feats and Thor with Mjolnir has matter manipulation by his own. Thor has resisted with Mjolnir to Ultron's matter manipulation. Also Thor is more powerful.
@unbreakable_fs4: Thor has shown susceptibility to telepathy just as often.
What do you mean phasing doesn't work on him?
There is one scan of Vision phasing through Thor. Vision hand goes into Thor's body. But before Vision can remove his hand, thor delivers an electric blast that hurts Vision. That is the only one I know of. But it clearly shows that you can penetrate Thor's body. You just can't leave your hand there like Vision did.
@sheenlantern: Not totally sure, I was just stating what I had heard. I'm not sure the truthfulness of this though as sometimes out of context scans can be posted to support a character.
There is one scan of Vision phasing through Thor. Vision hand goes into Thor's body. But before Vision can remove his hand, thor delivers an electric blast that hurts Vision. That is the only one I know of. But it clearly shows that you can penetrate Thor's body. You just can't leave your hand there like Vision did.
@unbreakable_fs4: Thor has shown susceptibility to telepathy just as often.
What do you mean phasing doesn't work on him?
There is one scan of Vision phasing through Thor. Vision hand goes into Thor's body. But before Vision can remove his hand, thor delivers an electric blast that hurts Vision. That is the only one I know of. But it clearly shows that you can penetrate Thor's body. You just can't leave your hand there like Vision did.
Wrong when Vision started phasing, Mjolnir released mystical energy that protected Thor and shocked Vision.
@pooty: Do you mind posting a scan of this, I'd really appreciate it. I've always heard people argue his susceptibility to phasing but I had never seen the evidence to prove it.
@unbreakable_fs4: Thor has shown susceptibility to telepathy just as often.
What do you mean phasing doesn't work on him?
There is one scan of Vision phasing through Thor. Vision hand goes into Thor's body. But before Vision can remove his hand, thor delivers an electric blast that hurts Vision. That is the only one I know of. But it clearly shows that you can penetrate Thor's body. You just can't leave your hand there like Vision did.
Wrong when Vision started phasing Mjolnir released mystical energy that protected Thor and shocked Vision.
Incorrect. Vision's hand is CLEARLY inside of Thor. Mjolnir did NOT stop the phasing. Thor attacked before Vision could solidify. Thor admits if Vision solidifys then it will hurt him
@unbreakable_fs4: Sure. See post 27. Thor actually had Mjolnir inside of Vision while Vision was phasing. It's not like Mjolnir automatically shields Thor from phasing.
@unbreakable_fs4: Thor has shown susceptibility to telepathy just as often.
What do you mean phasing doesn't work on him?
There is one scan of Vision phasing through Thor. Vision hand goes into Thor's body. But before Vision can remove his hand, thor delivers an electric blast that hurts Vision. That is the only one I know of. But it clearly shows that you can penetrate Thor's body. You just can't leave your hand there like Vision did.
Wrong when Vision started phasing Mjolnir released mystical energy that protected Thor and shocked Vision.
Incorrect. Vision's hand is CLEARLY inside of Thor. Mjolnir did NOT stop the phasing. Thor attacked before Vision could solidify. Thor admits if Vision solidifys then it will hurt him
When did I said he didn't phased his hand through Thor? I said when he STARTED phasing. He wasn't even able to solidify his hand. Again I didn't said it wouldn't hurt Thor.
@alessandro_souzamarques: Just a fact check: lightning is electricity. Fire requires energy, oxygen and fuel. Electricity is only energy and only requires a medium to travel through.
It is heat that you are talking about. Lighting is believed to be hotter than the sun.
It is possible, however, for lightning to cause fire, but it is not automatically fire.
@mxyzptlk_cv: Thor has faced deadlier beings than Despero, doesnt mean he automatically 'wrecks' MM and it goes both ways. Mjolnir disrupts intangibility, can detect invisibility (can also go invisible himself) and Thor TP resistance. unBREAKable_Fs4 has equalized their speeds but Thor is still stronger, more powerful, more durable and has stamina that can last until his down. MM isn't stopping Thor, in fact he can clear this.
Giving Thor FTL speed is pretty cheating. Why not put him against opponents that'd actually matchup with him?
Even still I see J'onn laying the smack down on him
no not really no. Jonn doesnt nearly have the strength to beat him
Prepare to be bombarded with scans.
Keep in mind New 52 MMH is even stronger than this.
Knocking down SupesFighting JLA soloSlugging BA in the stomach (and we know that on the Vine it's been confirmed BA is stronger than Thor) Knocks around Superboy Prime, then when SBP unleashes an attack, MMH is the only one invulnerable enough to it.Regenerating from a single slither or body left
@kidman560: Thor's invulnerability is not greater than Supes, as of without exposure to magic or kryptonite.
I'm not saying MMH beats Thor, I'm saying he won't cut through him like soft butter.
Even if he beats MMH, I don't think he'll beat H'el. H'el has tanked planet shaking punches from Supes (literally shaking the whole planet and even the Watchtower in space), blitzed Superman in point a to b in only one panel length, and he can shrink Thor down to an ant size and step on him.
@retconcrisis: none of those equate to lifting the twilight sword (incalculable weight) or lifting the the midgard serpent
I still have never heard the Twilight Sword referred to in that manner.
And why is the Midgard Serpent thing so impressive?
the midgard serpent was crushing the Earth (literally) at the time. now the weight required to do that is... impressive to say the least.
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now unfortunately this was released long before i was born and i have struggled to find it. (in vain) but if the serpent was crushing the earth the amount of force required to lift it would have been extreme
@ghostravage and @cosmicallyaware1 can probably tell you more. i've been told that lifting the midgard serpent at that time would be like lifting the Earth (which i can believe)
and the twilight sword lifting was pretty legit but i believe the only three people that have picked it up are Surtur, Odin, and Thor.
@kidman560: Thor's invulnerability is not greater than Supes, as of without exposure to magic or kryptonite.
I'm not saying MMH beats Thor, I'm saying he won't cut through him like soft butter.
Even if he beats MMH, I don't think he'll beat H'el. H'el has tanked planet shaking punches from Supes (literally shaking the whole planet and even the Watchtower in space), blitzed Superman in point a to b in only one panel length, and he can shrink Thor down to an ant size and step on him.
EDIT: Why is CV cutting off all my posts? >,<
wanna bet? like i said i am not even counting the silver age and his durability is much more than supes. the guy took blows from Surtur and got right back up (Surtur was also throwing around Odin like he was weightless, just for reference!)
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