Rules
no morals
there bloodlusted
current thor
bfr is off
Darkseid is at his strongest
who wins and why
this fight takes place on a lifeless planet
Thor Quasar and Gladiator vs Darkseid
they are four ways ds can win.
1. omega beams one shot and good bye thor, quasar or gladiator.
2. ds can bfr them he can move threw time at will he can bfr any of them to the begining of time to the big bang.
3. ds can mind rape them.
4. ds might can manipulate them but i do not know how good the teams protections is.
darksied wins.
they are four ways ds can win.1. omega beams one shot and good bye thor, quasar or gladiator.2. ds can bfr them he can move threw time at will he can bfr any of them to the begining of time to the big bang.3. ds can mind rape them. 4. ds might can manipulate them but i do not know how good the teams protections is.
1. Mjolnir can block it.
2. Thor can bfr him as well.
3. Thor has resisted it before from Moondragon with the mind gem.
4. Manipulate? Miscellaneous right?
I agree that Darkseid wins but I'm just going to fight for team 1.
- you really think thor can block ds omege beams.
- your right can bfr.
- well i guess mind raping will not work on thor. but how strong is quasar and glads resisted to mind raping is?
- i was talking about matter manipulation but i do not know how good they protection is. do you? i would just like to know for future purposes.
@Susanoo:
- you really think thor can block ds omege beams.
- your right can bfr.
- well i guess mind raping will not work on thor. but how strong is quasar and glads resisted to mind raping is?
- i was talking about matter manipulation but i do not know how good they protection is. do you? i would just like to know for future purposes.
1. He has blocked worse before.
3. I don't know anything about Quasar and Gladiator.
4. Thor has good resistance towards this type of stuff. He has easily resisted things like time manipulation before.
- so he can block the ob.
- i do not know much of them either.
- thor has good resistence but i wonder how good quasar and glads resistince is i hope some body comes shed some light on the situation for me.
@Susanoo:
- so he can block the ob.
- i do not know much of them either.
- thor has good resistence but i wonder how good quasar and glads resistince is i hope some body comes shed some light on the situation for me.
1. Pretty much.
2. Same
4. I'll assume Gladiator has the same resistance as characters similar to Superman (Hyperion, Sentry, ect) but I'm not sure.
well I guess I will jump in a bit then... Gladiator for the most part is a Superman Rip Off... though his attributes overall are somewhat like Superman's... Planet Crushing Strength, ability to excel 100 times faster than light... dude is pretty Badass... but I think Darkseid would put his Foot in his Badass... lol
Ok this make sense. I still doubt Glads have abilities like Superhuman intellect, speeding up his thoughts or body to become intangible and things like that though.
Darkseid at his strongest means?
Because normal DS loses to off-morals Thor or Gladiator. I am not sure about Quasar, since there is no BFR.
@czarny_samael: ds at his strongest means sky father level ds thor or glads would get stomped by sky father ds the supes always fights ds clones the real ds stomps supes, quasar,thor or glads easy.Skyfather by itself doesn't mean much. For example in Marvel only few Skyfather are top dogs. In DC Skyfathers doesn't have such a great feats like Odin or Surtur.
1.Which is very good, but not in Marvel top Skyyfather's level feats.
2.Second one I would like to see.
3.He doesn't stomp them, because they are too fast for him out of morals.
@dccomicsrule2011 said:but honestly what did you expect ? Marvel dwells on characters like Hercules and Thor where they can excel on the skills of Odin and Zeus who are Skyfathers... while Zeus and Odin in DC usually take the backseat... and are only spoken of in Wonder Woman comics... or perhaps issues involving the New Gods or something...@czarny_samael: ds at his strongest means sky father level ds thor or glads would get stomped by sky father ds the supes always fights ds clones the real ds stomps supes, quasar,thor or glads easy.Skyfather by itself doesn't mean much. For example in Marvel only few Skyfather are top dogs. In DC Skyfathers doesn't have such a great feats like Odin or Surtur.
@czarny_samael said:But it doesn't change anything. This is why I don't belive that any other head of Earth's panteons is on par with Odin, Zeus and Vishnu, that is why I won't put Bor in their level, that is why I don't see Fallen One too much in battle etc. If they don't have anything to backup their Skyfather status of power, they can't be put in the same level with Odin or Zeus.@dccomicsrule2011 said:but honestly what did you expect ? Marvel dwells on characters like Hercules and Thor where they can excel on the skills of Odin and Zeus who are Skyfathers... while Zeus and Odin in DC usually take the backseat... and are only spoken of in Wonder Woman comics... or perhaps issues involving the New Gods or something...@czarny_samael: ds at his strongest means sky father level ds thor or glads would get stomped by sky father ds the supes always fights ds clones the real ds stomps supes, quasar,thor or glads easy.Skyfather by itself doesn't mean much. For example in Marvel only few Skyfather are top dogs. In DC Skyfathers doesn't have such a great feats like Odin or Surtur.
The same with Darkseid. IMO he has feats in par with Semi-Skyfather level in Marvel means.
@King Saturn said:I disagree...@czarny_samael said:But it doesn't change anything. This is why I don't belive that any other head of Earth's panteons is on par with Odin, Zeus and Vishnu, that is why I won't put Bor in their level, that is why I don't see Fallen One too much in battle etc. If they don't have anything to backup their Skyfather status of power, they can't be put in the same level with Odin or Zeus. The same with Darkseid. IMO he has feats in par with Semi-Skyfather level in Marvel means.@dccomicsrule2011 said:but honestly what did you expect ? Marvel dwells on characters like Hercules and Thor where they can excel on the skills of Odin and Zeus who are Skyfathers... while Zeus and Odin in DC usually take the backseat... and are only spoken of in Wonder Woman comics... or perhaps issues involving the New Gods or something...@czarny_samael: ds at his strongest means sky father level ds thor or glads would get stomped by sky father ds the supes always fights ds clones the real ds stomps supes, quasar,thor or glads easy.Skyfather by itself doesn't mean much. For example in Marvel only few Skyfather are top dogs. In DC Skyfathers doesn't have such a great feats like Odin or Surtur.
@czarny_samael said:Without any reasons I assume?@King Saturn said:I disagree...@czarny_samael said:But it doesn't change anything. This is why I don't belive that any other head of Earth's panteons is on par with Odin, Zeus and Vishnu, that is why I won't put Bor in their level, that is why I don't see Fallen One too much in battle etc. If they don't have anything to backup their Skyfather status of power, they can't be put in the same level with Odin or Zeus. The same with Darkseid. IMO he has feats in par with Semi-Skyfather level in Marvel means.@dccomicsrule2011 said:but honestly what did you expect ? Marvel dwells on characters like Hercules and Thor where they can excel on the skills of Odin and Zeus who are Skyfathers... while Zeus and Odin in DC usually take the backseat... and are only spoken of in Wonder Woman comics... or perhaps issues involving the New Gods or something...@czarny_samael: ds at his strongest means sky father level ds thor or glads would get stomped by sky father ds the supes always fights ds clones the real ds stomps supes, quasar,thor or glads easy.Skyfather by itself doesn't mean much. For example in Marvel only few Skyfather are top dogs. In DC Skyfathers doesn't have such a great feats like Odin or Surtur.
1.Which is very good, but not in Marvel top Skyyfather's level feats.2.Second one I would like to see.3.He doesn't stomp them, because they are too fast for him out of morals.ds stomps i am not trying to compare ds to odin or zeus i am comparing him to thor, superman,quasar and gladiator he stomps them he is a low level sky father they punches will not harm him i do not have the scans but i have comicvine to back that up go on ds vs threads ds is above guys like thor, ss and superman he stomps them all.
@czarny_samael said:He has to have feats or statements made by narrator or Reed that proves that.1.Which is very good, but not in Marvel top Skyyfather's level feats.2.Second one I would like to see.3.He doesn't stomp them, because they are too fast for him out of morals.ds stomps i am not trying to compare ds to odin or zeus i am comparing him to thor, superman,quasar and gladiator he stomps them he is a low level sky father they punches will not harm him i do not have the scans but i have comicvine to back that up go on ds vs threads ds is above guys like thor, ss and superman he stomps them all.
@King Saturn said:or perhaps I have reasons... I just am letting this issue die here... instead of going pages and pages over BS@czarny_samael said:Without any reasons I assume?@King Saturn said:I disagree...@czarny_samael said:But it doesn't change anything. This is why I don't belive that any other head of Earth's panteons is on par with Odin, Zeus and Vishnu, that is why I won't put Bor in their level, that is why I don't see Fallen One too much in battle etc. If they don't have anything to backup their Skyfather status of power, they can't be put in the same level with Odin or Zeus. The same with Darkseid. IMO he has feats in par with Semi-Skyfather level in Marvel means.@dccomicsrule2011 said:but honestly what did you expect ? Marvel dwells on characters like Hercules and Thor where they can excel on the skills of Odin and Zeus who are Skyfathers... while Zeus and Odin in DC usually take the backseat... and are only spoken of in Wonder Woman comics... or perhaps issues involving the New Gods or something...@czarny_samael: ds at his strongest means sky father level ds thor or glads would get stomped by sky father ds the supes always fights ds clones the real ds stomps supes, quasar,thor or glads easy.Skyfather by itself doesn't mean much. For example in Marvel only few Skyfather are top dogs. In DC Skyfathers doesn't have such a great feats like Odin or Surtur.
Darkseid at his strongest means? Because normal DS loses to off-morals Thor or Gladiator. I am not sure about Quasar, since there is no BFR.
@czarny_samael said:Really mature. How old are You man?Darkseid at his strongest means? Because normal DS loses to off-morals Thor or Gladiator. I am not sure about Quasar, since there is no BFR.
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@czarny_samael: he has feats i gave you his feats he is a low level sky father taking a punch from lobo with out flinching do i have to remind you lobo hurt his hand lobo has supes strenght and he could not hurt ds he took a blast from greenlantern with out moving a full power blast the ring had 100% it blasted all of its energy to 0% out and it still had no effect on ds do i have to remind you gl kyle rayner bust 5 planets in his time he busted the oa and reformed it easy it only took 1 second and it took nowhere near full power to do that full power a gl can destroy well over on planet. ds took on the whole jla for crying out loud he stomps supes,thor,ss,quasar and gladiator he is above those people. beside show me when the narrator or reed ever said ss is above any body you ss is i say silver silver is not above people like thor or supes.but why bother it is obvious you are stuck on your ways.
And I've told You to bring scans. Also Kyle's energy is unlimited IIRC.
Also it is all about speed - without morals they can speedblitz him, until You can prove that Superman ever used nanosecond speed reaction on him. Only clear indication about it can prove it. Without it, ordinary speedblitz isn't a prove.
Surfer doesn't need any words, because he has feats that proves his level. I've just give You a way of showing Darkseid's power without showing me planet-busting scans (for example) for him. I know that many people didn't have a chacne to bust a planet, but when they are fighting, there often is said how much power they've used. I can show what I'm talking about if You want.
if you mean current darkseid then team wins
if you mean current darkseid then team winsAnd that is what I was thinking in my first post.dont know what you mean by "darkseid is at his strongest" though. pre-crisis is his strongest, he'd win then
they are four ways ds can win.1. omega beams one shot and good bye thor, quasar or gladiator.2. ds can bfr them he can move threw time at will he can bfr any of them to the begining of time to the big bang.3. ds can mind rape them. 4. ds might can manipulate them but i do not know how good the teams protections is.darksied wins.
@czarny_samael: i do not have the scans but belive me all the hype is real so is the feats he done all of this he is above normal heroes kyle ring is not unlimited if it was how did star heart drain it? he still has to charge it but not as often as other gl's ds is above normal heroes the thread speak for them selves. ds stomps supes, silver surfer,thor ,quasar and gladiator face it ds is stronger. ss is not above thor or supes i saw some thor scans and supes scans they are just as imppresive as ss if not more imppresive . stop wanking ss man. ds stomps and darksieds feats proves he is a low level sky father you lost i won.1.Which hype?
2.SS > Thor and Superman in the same time.
3.DS has to prove his power somehow. Without any prove, he isn't above them and he can't take all this nanosecond attacks.
@czarny_samael:
1.they do have a darksied vs thor silver surfer and gladiator thread and ds won majority check for your self
2.ss is not above any body please cut the crap i gave you reasons threw pm why supes beats ss.
3.ds gas proven it i gave you his feats nobody on ss, thor or supes level has those sorts of feats ds stomps people at that level the threads speck for them silves.
1.I was asking- which hype?@czarny_samael:
1.they do have a darksied vs thor silver surfer and gladiator thread and ds won majority check for your self2.ss is not above any body please cut the crap i gave you reasons threw pm why supes beats ss.
3.ds gas proven it i gave you his feats nobody on ss, thor or supes level has those sorts of feats ds stomps people at that level the threads speck for them silves.
2.I won't answer on Your arguments in PM, until You will send me scans to prove Your words. If I didn't answer it, sorry, I probably thought that I've did with exaclty these words. And no - I've didn't change my mind even a bit. I am still more than completly sure that Surfer wins with Superman in horrible stomp. That it isn't even a fight. Also, Superman would win with Darkseid too.
3.Which feats? Post them.
@czarny_samael:
1. the hype darksied vs ss thor and glads at the same time hype ds is a low level sky father most viners will agree.
2.i gave you issue number that is good enough buy the comic yourself supes can beat ss are you kidding me ds rapes ss and supes at th same time in if it is the real deal ds.
3. i gave you the feats if you do not believe me fine i do not care i will not post scans of everything i posted they os a thread darksied and thanos vs sentry and silver sufer thread when they had the feats.
1.The point is I don't know why You belive that DS > Thor, beside of opinion of others. Others opinon aren't a prove of anything.@czarny_samael:
1. the hype darksied vs ss thor and glads at the same time hype ds is a low level sky father most viners will agree.2.i gave you issue number that is good enough buy the comic yourself supes can beat ss are you kidding me ds rapes ss and supes at th same time in if it is the real deal ds.
3. i gave you the feats if you do not believe me fine i do not care i will not post scans of everything i posted they os a thread darksied and thanos vs sentry and silver sufer thread when they had the feats.
2.About which power are You talking about? I don't remember each argument.
3.That is the problem. You have to. No offence man, each of us have to post scans.
@dccomicsrule2011 said:1.The point is I don't know why You belive that DS > Thor, beside of opinion of others. Others opinon aren't a prove of anything.2.About which power are You talking about? I don't remember each argument.3.That is the problem. You have to. No offence man, each of us have to post scans.@czarny_samael:
1. the hype darksied vs ss thor and glads at the same time hype ds is a low level sky father most viners will agree.2.i gave you issue number that is good enough buy the comic yourself supes can beat ss are you kidding me ds rapes ss and supes at th same time in if it is the real deal ds.
3. i gave you the feats if you do not believe me fine i do not care i will not post scans of everything i posted they os a thread darksied and thanos vs sentry and silver sufer thread when they had the feats.
- this is my opinion that ds is above those guys supes always fights the clone darkseid not the real ds is a new god he is a low level sky father with a bunch of abilities he beats people at this level i was never arguing he was on odin level he is not i was saying he is a low level sky father he has feats to back this up.
- it is about supes vs ss not darkseid feat i think darkseid can beats ss and supes at the same time that is opinion i saw ds do a lot of amazing things.
- the feats i will look on some darkseid vs threads to find some scans when i find some i will give you the link and the page number ds feats are real and he is above people at this level he is a lowlevel sky father.
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