@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: At the end of the fight Thanos was bloody and banged up. Odin looked fresh and hadn't been hurt at all during the fight, Yes he didn't fully beat Thanos right here but if it had gone on any longer he would have.
Odin should be able to barely beat Thanos, and Thor should be able to take the Surfer...having Hercules there just seals the deal for Team 1. I think this would have been a much better match if you'd put Herc on Team 2 actually.
It was a stalemate. Thanos really hurt Odin's pride in that match too because Odin had to endeavor some actual effort just to match Thanos.
Well Thanos wasnt outright defeated but you gotta admit he looked in worst shape than Odin. Also during The Mighty Thor 523 - 527 (Tears of a God) saga Thanos after poisioning Odin says you defeated me once, now its payback (or something similar). And given the fact that its the only encounter Thanos has actually fought Odin, its easier to think he was referring to this incident. However, it was later retconned as being a Thanoside (Infinity Abyss ) .
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: At the end of the fight Thanos was bloody and banged up. Odin looked fresh and hadn't been hurt at all during the fight, Yes he didn't fully beat Thanos right here but if it had gone on any longer he would have.
Yes, but look closely. Odin had his Gnthnir and Thanos walking towards Odin equipped with that spear pretty much taunts Odin's power. Not to mention Thanos just heals after that. Sure Odin has an edge in raw power, but he also has an edge at tiring, which Thanos don't really suffer from that, hence why he still stood.
It was a stalemate. Thanos really hurt Odin's pride in that match too because Odin had to endeavor some actual effort just to match Thanos.
Well Thanos wasnt outright defeated but you gotta admit he looked in worst shape than Odin. Also during The Mighty Thor 523 - 527 (Tears of a God) saga Thanos after poisioning Odin says you defeated me once, now its payback (or something similar). And given the fact that its the only encounter Thanos has actually fought Odin, its easier to think he was referring to this incident. However, it was later retconned as being a Thanoside (Infinity Abyss ) .
Well of course, but my point is that granted Odin has more raw power, he's power can deprive faster than Thanos'.
Thanos' Endurance and Stamina > Odin's pretty much.
Odin's energy output > Thanos
Both have probably = Durability
But Odin's durability is dependent with his power reserves.
Thanos is naturally resilient to physical or energy attacks despite whatever it does to damage him, he heals from it naturally without the use of energy reserves.
Well of course, but my point is that granted Odin has more raw power, he's power can deprive faster than Thanos'.
Thanos' Endurance and Stamina > Odin's pretty much.
Odin's energy output > Thanos
Both have probably = Durability
But Odin's durability is dependent with his power reserves.
Thanos is naturally resilient to physical or energy attacks despite whatever it does to damage him, he heals from it naturally without the use of energy reserves.
With morals on, Thor would with morals off its a bit hard. He has all the advantages like speed, matter manipulation, telepathy, trapping him in his board etc.
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: At the end of the fight Thanos was bloody and banged up. Odin looked fresh and hadn't been hurt at all during the fight, Yes he didn't fully beat Thanos right here but if it had gone on any longer he would have.
Yes, but look closely. Odin had his Gnthnir and Thanos walking towards Odin equipped with that spear pretty much taunts Odin's power. Not to mention Thanos just heals after that. Sure Odin has an edge in raw power, but he also has an edge at tiring, which Thanos don't really suffer from that, hence why he still stood.
Hmm, that might actually be a good point. Eternals can transmute and reform the constituent molecules that comprise them, giving them pretty spectacular stamina, whereas Asgardians don't have a similar power I believe. And since Thanos is a high level Eternal, he probably has some crazy control over this particular Eternal power. I think it could be feasible that Thanos's stamina surpasses Odin's.
With morals on, Thor would with morals off its a bit hard. He has all the advantages like speed, matter manipulation, telepathy, trapping him in his board etc.
Well of course, but my point is that granted Odin has more raw power, he's power can deprive faster than Thanos'.
Thanos' Endurance and Stamina > Odin's pretty much.
Odin's energy output > Thanos
Both have probably = Durability
But Odin's durability is dependent with his power reserves.
Thanos is naturally resilient to physical or energy attacks despite whatever it does to damage him, he heals from it naturally without the use of energy reserves.
any reason why you believe the bold part is true?
Because Thanos doesn't tire during battle. Think of it for a bit, Odin can Odin Sleep, and he needs to Odin Sleep to regain his vitality and stamina.... Thanos doesn't do that. He may rest just to enjoy a scenery, but he doesn't sleep for long periods of time.
Also, FondofPacman explains why....
@fondofpacman said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
@bgibs13390 said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: At the end of the fight Thanos was bloody and banged up. Odin looked fresh and hadn't been hurt at all during the fight, Yes he didn't fully beat Thanos right here but if it had gone on any longer he would have.
Yes, but look closely. Odin had his Gnthnir and Thanos walking towards Odin equipped with that spear pretty much taunts Odin's power. Not to mention Thanos just heals after that. Sure Odin has an edge in raw power, but he also has an edge at tiring, which Thanos don't really suffer from that, hence why he still stood.
Hmm, that might actually be a good point. Eternals can transmute and reform the constituent molecules that comprise them, giving them pretty spectacular stamina, whereas Asgardians don't have a similar power I believe. And since Thanos is a high level Eternal, he probably has some crazy control over this particular Eternal power. I think it could be feasible that Thanos's stamina surpasses Odin's.
Because Thanos doesn't tire during battle. Think of it for a bit, Odin can Odin Sleep, and he needs to Odin Sleep to regain his vitality and stamina.... Thanos doesn't do that. He may rest just to enjoy a scenery, but he doesn't sleep for long periods of time.
Also, FondofPacman explains why....
@fondofpacman said:
Hmm, that might actually be a good point. Eternals can transmute and reform the constituent molecules that comprise them, giving them pretty spectacular stamina, whereas Asgardians don't have a similar power I believe. And since Thanos is a high level Eternal, he probably has some crazy control over this particular Eternal power. I think it could be feasible that Thanos's stamina surpasses Odin's.
Sorry but i dont see substantive proof on entire on your argument. Firstly, Thanos doesnt tire doesnt automatically mean Odin does. Odin sleeps to replinesh his strength, thats a different thing rather than tiring in battle. The only time i have seen Odin tire in battle is when he used everything he had against Galactus recently, and i frankly have no reason to believe Thanos would fair any better.
also comparing Odin with an average Asgardian is just doesnt do justice to who he is.
Because Thanos doesn't tire during battle. Think of it for a bit, Odin can Odin Sleep, and he needs to Odin Sleep to regain his vitality and stamina.... Thanos doesn't do that. He may rest just to enjoy a scenery, but he doesn't sleep for long periods of time.
Also, FondofPacman explains why....
@fondofpacman said:
Hmm, that might actually be a good point. Eternals can transmute and reform the constituent molecules that comprise them, giving them pretty spectacular stamina, whereas Asgardians don't have a similar power I believe. And since Thanos is a high level Eternal, he probably has some crazy control over this particular Eternal power. I think it could be feasible that Thanos's stamina surpasses Odin's.
Sorry but i dont see substantive proof on entire on your argument. Firstly, Thanos doesnt tire doesnt automatically mean Odin does. Odin sleeps to replinesh his strength, thats a different thing rather than tiring in battle. The only time i have seen Odin tire in battle is when he used everything he had against Galactus recently, and i frankly have no reason to believe Thanos would fair any better.
also comparing Odin with an average Asgardian is just doesnt do justice to who he is.
Which supports my point.
Thanos did a much better job fighting Galactus than Odin did.
Thanos did a much better job fighting Galactus than Odin did.
Blasting galactus one, admitting he couldn't harm galactus,and then begging for his life is a better showings than Odin being able to knock Galactus out, albeit for short time, with him knocked out as well?
Thanos did a much better job fighting Galactus than Odin did.
Blasting galactus one, admitting he couldn't harm galactus,and then begging for his life is a better showings than Odin being able to knock Galactus out, albeit for short time, with him knocked out as well?
wait, didnt Thanos almost kill Galactus in that arc? He said something like ,"There was a chance that you(Galactus) could have I died, but I dont care because you created this mess".
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: At the end of the fight Thanos was bloody and banged up. Odin looked fresh and hadn't been hurt at all during the fight, Yes he didn't fully beat Thanos right here but if it had gone on any longer he would have.
this was before his resurrection, before he gets his huge power boost. he was close to skyfather level back then, but now he is at skyfather level after the power boost when he resurrected. so odin vs thanos now would be most likely a draw.
Thanos did a much better job fighting Galactus than Odin did.
Blasting galactus one, admitting he couldn't harm galactus,and then begging for his life is a better showings than Odin being able to knock Galactus out, albeit for short time, with him knocked out as well?
wait, didnt Thanos almost kill Galactus in that arc? He said something like ,"There was a chance that you(Galactus) could have I died, but I dont care because you created this mess".
yap, begging for his life was part of thanos's plan. he didnt yield to odin, so he isnt one that gives up that easily. he allowed galactus to underestimate him and drop his guard, then stole the soul gem from right under his nose, before crushing him between 2 planets, which he calculated would not kill galactus, since he did not want to
wait, didnt Thanos almost kill Galactus in that arc? He said something like ,"There was a chance that you(Galactus) could have I died, but I dont care because you created this mess".
You are now mixing two issues, Thanos 05 and Thanos 06, Thanos 05 is where Thanos blasts galactus, who is unphased, comes back , thanos begs for his life. The whole thing Thanos did was he was trying to prevent Galactus, who at the point was being manipulated by The Hunger into using the infinity gem to create a device that could satisfy galactus's hunger for ever, however, no known to Galactus the device was meant to open a portal so that hunger could come to our deminsion and eat the entire universe.
Thanos after failing to convience Galactus , goes back ask Pip the troll for help, lines a planet filled with nukes, get the planet to collide with the planet Galactus was on (hunger had already come to over dimension and was easily beating Galactus by then), and the collision of the planets killed Hunger and leaves Galactus nearly dead. Then the statement was made.
I do not currently have the issue because i am at work. If you wanna see scans or anything, just let me know so i can post it to you once i reach home (in 3.5 hours).
@kcaz said:
yap, begging for his life was part of thanos's plan. he didnt yield to odin, so he isnt one that gives up that easily. he allowed galactus to underestimate him and drop his guard, then stole the soul gem from right under his nose, before crushing him between 2 planets, which he calculated would not kill galactus, since he did not want to
Begging for Life wasnt his plan, and yes he didnt yield to Odin but he did look in the worst shape. Also in a later story, thor: The Tears of a god, Thanos tricks and poisions Odin and say something like you defeated me last time you wont be able to do so again, and given the fact that Thanos and Odin has never fought, apart from the popular scans of Thor: Blood and Thunder its evident that it was meant to be a defeat.
Also why would Thanos want Galactus to underestimate him? Galactus has cosmic awarness should he choose to use it. The remaining part is correct, but thats not with his own accord, he had pip the troll to help, and the damage was as a result of collision of 2 planets filled with nukes rather from his cosmic blasts.
wait, didnt Thanos almost kill Galactus in that arc? He said something like ,"There was a chance that you(Galactus) could have I died, but I dont care because you created this mess".
You are now mixing two issues, Thanos 05 and Thanos 06, Thanos 05 is where Thanos blasts galactus, who is unphased, comes back , thanos begs for his life. The whole thing Thanos did was he was trying to prevent Galactus, who at the point was being manipulated by The Hunger into using the infinity gem to create a device that could satisfy galactus's hunger for ever, however, no known to Galactus the device was meant to open a portal so that hunger could come to our deminsion and eat the entire universe.
Thanos after failing to convience Galactus , goes back ask Pip the troll for help, lines a planet filled with nukes, get the planet to collide with the planet Galactus was on (hunger had already come to over dimension and was easily beating Galactus by then), and the collision of the planets killed Hunger and leaves Galactus nearly dead. Then the statement was made.
I do not currently have the issue because i am at work. If you wanna see scans or anything, just let me know so i can post it to you once i reach home (in 3.5 hours).
@kcaz said:
yap, begging for his life was part of thanos's plan. he didnt yield to odin, so he isnt one that gives up that easily. he allowed galactus to underestimate him and drop his guard, then stole the soul gem from right under his nose, before crushing him between 2 planets, which he calculated would not kill galactus, since he did not want to
Begging for Life wasnt his plan, and yes he didnt yield to Odin but he did look in the worst shape. Also in a later story, thor: The Tears of a god, Thanos tricks and poisions Odin and say something like you defeated me last time you wont be able to do so again, and given the fact that Thanos and Odin has never fought, apart from the popular scans of Thor: Blood and Thunder its evident that it was meant to be a defeat.
Also why would Thanos want Galactus to underestimate him? Galactus has cosmic awarness should he choose to use it. The remaining part is correct, but thats not with his own accord, he had pip the troll to help, and the damage was as a result of collision of 2 planets filled with nukes rather from his cosmic blasts.
Scans would be nice. I read that a long time ago and dont remember much. All I remember is that Thanos got what he wanted. Galacted was heavily bruised.
wait, didnt Thanos almost kill Galactus in that arc? He said something like ,"There was a chance that you(Galactus) could have I died, but I dont care because you created this mess".
You are now mixing two issues, Thanos 05 and Thanos 06, Thanos 05 is where Thanos blasts galactus, who is unphased, comes back , thanos begs for his life. The whole thing Thanos did was he was trying to prevent Galactus, who at the point was being manipulated by The Hunger into using the infinity gem to create a device that could satisfy galactus's hunger for ever, however, no known to Galactus the device was meant to open a portal so that hunger could come to our deminsion and eat the entire universe.
Thanos after failing to convience Galactus , goes back ask Pip the troll for help, lines a planet filled with nukes, get the planet to collide with the planet Galactus was on (hunger had already come to over dimension and was easily beating Galactus by then), and the collision of the planets killed Hunger and leaves Galactus nearly dead. Then the statement was made.
I do not currently have the issue because i am at work. If you wanna see scans or anything, just let me know so i can post it to you once i reach home (in 3.5 hours).
@kcaz said:
yap, begging for his life was part of thanos's plan. he didnt yield to odin, so he isnt one that gives up that easily. he allowed galactus to underestimate him and drop his guard, then stole the soul gem from right under his nose, before crushing him between 2 planets, which he calculated would not kill galactus, since he did not want to
Begging for Life wasnt his plan, and yes he didnt yield to Odin but he did look in the worst shape. Also in a later story, thor: The Tears of a god, Thanos tricks and poisions Odin and say something like you defeated me last time you wont be able to do so again, and given the fact that Thanos and Odin has never fought, apart from the popular scans of Thor: Blood and Thunder its evident that it was meant to be a defeat.
Also why would Thanos want Galactus to underestimate him? Galactus has cosmic awarness should he choose to use it. The remaining part is correct, but thats not with his own accord, he had pip the troll to help, and the damage was as a result of collision of 2 planets filled with nukes rather from his cosmic blasts.
Scans would be nice. I read that a long time ago and dont remember much. All I remember is that Thanos got what he wanted. Galacted was heavily bruised.
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