#1 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio

Vs.

 

Rules

  • 1 day prep
  • Start 100 ft apart
  • Standard equipment (Thor has Mjolnir, Loki has Laevateinn, Terrax has his Cosmic Axe & Red Shift has his Dual Cosmic Swords.
  • Morals off
  • All are bloodlusted
  • Please use valid proof for your opinions, relevant scans and no trolling or fanboyism on either side please.

Location: Realm of Asgard

#2 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

With 1 day preparation i see Team 1 FTW

#3 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

#4 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
#5 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.
 
@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/
 
There you go...
#6 Posted by Simon_the_digger (3006 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

With 1 day preparation i see Team 1 FTW

#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

#8 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS
#9 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift was able to essentially stalemate SS in the middle of a black hole.

#10 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

#11 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.
#12 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

#13 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

Thats Classic Thor.
#14 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

Thats Classic Thor.

Classic Thor equals Current Thor until i see a recton happen. Also Current Thor has shown feats as powerful as Classic Thor's. Theie at the same standards.

#15 Posted by protectyournose (908 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor and Loki Stomp.

#16 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

Thats Classic Thor.

Classic Thor equals Current Thor until i see a recton happen. Also Current Thor has shown feats as powerful as Classic Thor's. Theie at the same standards.

I dont think so, Classic Thor seemed more powerful, killed Air Walker (Herald), Taken on Arishem the judge, Taken on an enraged Odin, whereas in modern times Odin has wiped the floor with him and a fight against a celestial would end him, AVX storyline shows how much his power has reduced.
#17 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR: @jeanroygrant: @IZZR:

1. Classic and Current Thor are the same being(continuity wise)

2. Can you all reply and not quote?

#18 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

Thats Classic Thor.

Classic Thor equals Current Thor until i see a recton happen. Also Current Thor has shown feats as powerful as Classic Thor's. Theie at the same standards.

What feats has current Thor shown that are as powerful?

#19 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@Man_of_Miracles said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

Thats Classic Thor.

Classic Thor equals Current Thor until i see a recton happen. Also Current Thor has shown feats as powerful as Classic Thor's. Theie at the same standards.

What feats has current Thor shown that are as powerful?

My thoughts exactly, when i read classic issues Thor seems like an absolute beast but now i dont know every new enemy seems to bring him to the brink of death and he wins by PIS.
#20 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles: @IZZR:

1. Modern Thor is not as powerful as Classic Thor

2. PLEASE REPLY AND NOT QUOTE.

#21 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1531 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd: I quoted to ask. There was a reason.

Ok I thought not.

#22 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@IZZR: @jeanroygrant: @IZZR:

1. Classic and Current Thor are the same being(continuity wise)

2. Can you all reply and not quote?

Okay.

#23 Posted by Nefarious (20626 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

#24 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@xxxddd: Yes continuity wise he is but feat wise some way off, Classic Thor stood up to Phoenix, current Thor was casually cast aside by Scott in the latest AVX issue.
#25 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

@xxxddd: Yes continuity wise he is but feat wise some way off, Classic Thor stood up to Phoenix, current Thor was casually cast aside by Scott in the latest AVX issue.

I already said Classic Thor is more powerful than current thor(nless I'm misunderstanding your point).

#26 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio
@xxxddd said:

@IZZR said:

@xxxddd: Yes continuity wise he is but feat wise some way off, Classic Thor stood up to Phoenix, current Thor was casually cast aside by Scott in the latest AVX issue.

I already said Classic Thor is more powerful than current thor(nless I'm misunderstanding your point).

i apologise i thought you meant they are on the same level.
#27 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR: No need to apologize.

#28 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

Back to this again, I see.

#29 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

Thats Classic Thor.

Classic Thor equals Current Thor until i see a recton happen. Also Current Thor has shown feats as powerful as Classic Thor's. Theie at the same standards.

What feats has current Thor shown that are as powerful?

My thoughts exactly, when i read classic issues Thor seems like an absolute beast but now i dont know every new enemy seems to bring him to the brink of death and he wins by PIS.

Stunning Mikaboshi? Beating Glory? Defeating Nul Hulk, while weakened and injured, hurt Phoenix Force? Those are all really good feats in my eyes.

#30 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@IZZR said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Loki curbstomp.

Far from, Red Shift is a near match for Surfer, he gets prep too on what Thor and Loki are about.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?
http://www.comicvine.com/red-shift/29-40878/ There you go...

Red Shift is not that powerful.

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

  • Is there a link to red shift on the site?
  • What are Red Shift's feats?

IZZR sent the link

Red Shift has gone the distance with SS

Morals on Silver Surfer. A lot of people have stalemated a morals on Silver Surfer, or beat him/

No actually he seemed quite angry!, angry enough to get Red Shift trapped in it.

Even though Red-Shift has held his own with Silver Surfer. Thor was beating Adam Warlock & Silver Surfer at the same time.

Thats Classic Thor.

Classic Thor equals Current Thor until i see a recton happen. Also Current Thor has shown feats as powerful as Classic Thor's. Theie at the same standards.

I dont think so, Classic Thor seemed more powerful, killed Air Walker (Herald), Taken on Arishem the judge, Taken on an enraged Odin, whereas in modern times Odin has wiped the floor with him and a fight against a celestial would end him, AVX storyline shows how much his power has reduced.

AVX is bare PIS.

#31 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant:

1. Classic Thor is far more powerful than Modern Thor.

Modern thor hasn't displayed any feats that are as impressive as his classic counterpart. Classic Thor was pulling the midgard serpent, tagging surfer, teleporting people to alternate dimensions, absorbing galaxy busting attacks, transmuting the elements themselves(transmuting people too),etc.

2. Please reply and not quote, or just cut the unnecessary stuff out.

#32 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant:

1. Classic Thor is far more powerful than Modern Thor.

Modern thor hasn't displayed any feats that are as impressive as his classic counterpart. Classic Thor was pulling the midgard serpent, tagging surfer, teleporting people to alternate dimensions, absorbing galaxy busting attacks, transmuting the elements themselves(transmuting people too),etc.

2. Please reply and not quote, or just cut the unnecessary stuff out.

Alright.

#33 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Alright.

Do you agree with my first point?

#34 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Alright.

Do you agree with my first point?

Yes,