Thor Iron Man and the Hulk vs. Superman,Steel and shazam

I think thor's hammer could take out superman by itself. And I think that Thor could fight Shazam on his own. Hopefully Iron Man and the Hulk can keep steel busy. I don't much about steel, but that should be possible I guess. Marvel has a shot at this match is Thor can kill Shazam one on one without his hammer.

Lord Shazam says:

"Lord Marvel are you talking about? Captain Marvel and Lord Marvel have a different level range in powers."

He says captain in the original post.

Lord Shazam says:

"Case Closed says:

"Lord Shazam says:

"Lord Marvel are you talking about? Captain Marvel and Lord Marvel have a different level range in powers."

He says captain in the original post. "

people still call him that. they still dont know him by Lord Marvel yet."

if he had meant lord marvel, who you go on and on and on and on and on about being as powerful as almost anyone, then what kind of battle is that? obviously he meant the normal power level captain marvel.

Methos says:

"Lord Marvel is powerful, but he isn't the most powerful being in the DCU... he's equal to the quintessence M"

yeah well you should hear LS talk about him...

Thor is better then all the characters listed but I dont think he can beat supes and shazaam at once and iron man is the weakest link...hopefully iron man blast one of them with proton cannon right away to stall while thor beats one of them if not i would give the battle to supes and shazaam

The_Creator says:

"The DC wins this battle easily, for basically all the reasons that Superman or Shazam trump Thor or Hulk. Yep, the weakest links are Ironmna and Steel in their respective teams. In this case, Ironman should be able to beat Steel through a variety of means (seeking control of the computer in the Steel armour, emp etc). "

I dont think superman and shazam trump hulk and thor

Supes vs Hulk is a debate on other forums Thor with the new odin powers can take out mostly anyone... regular thor is up for debate if he can beat supes or not

Thor > then Shazam Shazam's lightning magic is no match for Thors. He probably won't even need to use Mjolnir against shazaam

And i cant say for sure but the hulk from wwh seems to be a force of nature and I think he could give supes a run for is money

Yes excellent job as always Creator.

Thor is the only one from the Marvel team that can compete with Supes and Captain Marvel, and he's outnumbered. Replacing Hulk with Sentry might make it a little more even.

All in all, what Creator said.

jhniner says:

"How would this fight go if it was Lord Marvel/Superman vs Thor,Iron Man N Hulk"

Marvel gets thrashed a lot faster.

This fight is horribly in DCs favour.

The_Creator says:

"liquade says:

"Copy says:

"if you got rid of iron man and put sentry it would have been a really close fight but right now i have to say......dc (damn the person who made this thread)"

ohh i am so sorry to upset you. but that is a very good point lets replace iron man with sentry "

This brings in some of the Superman vs Sentry thread points. Even considering the Sentry's power level, the DC team should still pull off the win as we have not seen Sentry display the same power levels of Superman or Capt Marvel. So although Steel would likely be destryed reasonably quickly, Supes and Capt Marvel would win through. "

Well since we are changing to sentry

Thor - Supes

Sentry - Shazam

Hulk - Steel

if they match up that way then i could see it being closer then supes and marvel just winning

The_Creator says:

"Heart of Infinity says:

"The_Creator says:

"liquade says:

"Copy says:

"if you got rid of iron man and put sentry it would have been a really close fight but right now i have to say......dc (damn the person who made this thread)"

ohh i am so sorry to upset you. but that is a very good point lets replace iron man with sentry "

This brings in some of the Superman vs Sentry thread points. Even considering the Sentry's power level, the DC team should still pull off the win as we have not seen Sentry display the same power levels of Superman or Capt Marvel. So although Steel would likely be destryed reasonably quickly, Supes and Capt Marvel would win through. "

Well since we are changing to sentry Thor - Supes Sentry - Shazam Hulk - Steel if they match up that way then i could see it being closer then supes and marvel just winning "

As I said, Steel would go down first. Could he do damage to the others - possibly (at best), but I doubt it would be lasting, considering his opponents. However the arguments made above for Supes and Capt Marvel winning over the opposition still stand. To this pair, 1 minute of battle time is the equivalent of maybe 6 hours if they push themselves. Imagine your opponents are statue still as you fly up to them to attack them. They cannot defend themselves against your attacks so you can take your time and strike for the best effect - poking the Hulks eyes out, cutting Thor's throat etc. Sentry has been shown recently to be much weaker than Superman or Capt Marvel (reference recent Mighty Avengers) and has yet to display super reaction time (not just super fast movement speed). Without this, he is at the prey of the 2 DC powerhouses. His durability and powers make the fight more interesting and a better puzzle to think through but in my opinion, they don't change the outcome. "

Sentry can go on par with either one

Supes is weak to Lighting magic and thors hammer does it the best. Its stronger then shazams lighting.

Supes has the edge on speed but no enough where thor wont land his blows in.

I would say overall thor has more combat experience then anyone on the list put together times two

Hulk is underestimated he has lighning quick reflexes and has beaten people who are faster then him. Hulk may not be at supes speed but his agility will make up for some of that

I mean if Steel falls then the 3V2 should definetly go in the Marvel teams favor

Thor with odin force on the other hand just wins flat out

The_Creator says:

"Heart of Infinity says:

"The_Creator says:

"Heart of Infinity says:

"The_Creator says:

"liquade says:

"Copy says:

"if you got rid of iron man and put sentry it would have been a really close fight but right now i have to say......dc (damn the person who made this thread)"

ohh i am so sorry to upset you. but that is a very good point lets replace iron man with sentry "

This brings in some of the Superman vs Sentry thread points. Even considering the Sentry's power level, the DC team should still pull off the win as we have not seen Sentry display the same power levels of Superman or Capt Marvel. So although Steel would likely be destryed reasonably quickly, Supes and Capt Marvel would win through. "

Well since we are changing to sentry Thor - Supes Sentry - Shazam Hulk - Steel if they match up that way then i could see it being closer then supes and marvel just winning "

As I said, Steel would go down first. Could he do damage to the others - possibly (at best), but I doubt it would be lasting, considering his opponents. However the arguments made above for Supes and Capt Marvel winning over the opposition still stand. To this pair, 1 minute of battle time is the equivalent of maybe 6 hours if they push themselves. Imagine your opponents are statue still as you fly up to them to attack them. They cannot defend themselves against your attacks so you can take your time and strike for the best effect - poking the Hulks eyes out, cutting Thor's throat etc. Sentry has been shown recently to be much weaker than Superman or Capt Marvel (reference recent Mighty Avengers) and has yet to display super reaction time (not just super fast movement speed). Without this, he is at the prey of the 2 DC powerhouses. His durability and powers make the fight more interesting and a better puzzle to think through but in my opinion, they don't change the outcome. "

Sentry can go on par with either one Supes is weak to Lighting magic and thors hammer does it the best. Its stronger then shazams lighting. Supes has the edge on speed but no enough where thor wont land his blows in. I would say overall thor has more combat experience then anyone on the list put together times two Hulk is underestimated he has lighning quick reflexes and has beaten people who are faster then him. Hulk may not be at supes speed but his agility will make up for some of that I mean if Steel falls then the 3V2 should definetly go in the Marvel teams favor Thor with odin force on the other hand just wins flat out "

Please explain how Sentry can go on par with either Superman or Capt Marvel ? It certainly appears he is weaker, more vulnerable and has significantly slower reaction times. I agree that Sentry has the ability to project huges amounts of energy but how does that matter if he cannot hit his opponents with it. He could try an omnidirectional blast but with the superspeed that Supe and Capt Marvel possess, they may be able to outrace the explosion anyway (as they have done in the past). Back to the Lightning - if Thor cannot target his opponent with the hammer of lightning because they are moving too fast, he can do no damage. Thor is the most skilled hand to hand fighter (I agree and said so on my first posting) but again this skill means little if his oppoents move faster than he can see or hit. How id Thor's lightning stronger than the bolt that transforms Capt Marvel ? It would appear that the bolt is powered by the equivalent of 7 gods - vs Thor's one. I don't underestimate the Hulk, I was simply quoting his official OHOTMU stats (holepunched version) - equivalent of an athelete at best - not peak human, for both agility and reaction time. I am also aware of his past victories over faster opponents - but these have been fast semispeedsters in the Marvel Univers - where reaction speeds are maybe 10 - 20 times the speed of a human and some of them have been caught by him shockwaving the earth to disrupt their footing. Supes and Mavrel both fly and so would not fall pray to this attack and their reactions are several times faster than these previous opponents. Agility means little if you cannot react fast enough to your opponents attack. If Thor had the Odin force then the outcome would be different but as he does not for this fight, the argument is moot. "

So I guess a team of Flashes should beat everyone on this list?

Shazam > Thor with is Hammer

IronMan=Steel maybe IronMan

Superman>Hulk

even steel unnecessary :D just Supe and Shazam good enough for them ;)

@Alexander Anderson said:

Thor is the only one from the Marvel team that can compete with Supes and Captain Marvel, and he's outnumbered. Replacing Hulk with Sentry might make it a little more even.

All in all, what Creator said.

Ya, I agree with you, Supes & Shazam > Thor & Hulk....

@the creator said:

Heart of Infinity says:

"The_Creator says:

"Heart of Infinity says:

"The_Creator says:

"liquade says:

"Copy says:

"if you got rid of iron man and put sentry it would have been a really close fight but right now i have to say......dc (damn the person who made this thread)"

ohh i am so sorry to upset you. but that is a very good point lets replace iron man with sentry "

This brings in some of the Superman vs Sentry thread points. Even considering the Sentry's power level, the DC team should still pull off the win as we have not seen Sentry display the same power levels of Superman or Capt Marvel. So although Steel would likely be destryed reasonably quickly, Supes and Capt Marvel would win through. "

Well since we are changing to sentry Thor - Supes Sentry - Shazam Hulk - Steel if they match up that way then i could see it being closer then supes and marvel just winning "

As I said, Steel would go down first. Could he do damage to the others - possibly (at best), but I doubt it would be lasting, considering his opponents. However the arguments made above for Supes and Capt Marvel winning over the opposition still stand. To this pair, 1 minute of battle time is the equivalent of maybe 6 hours if they push themselves. Imagine your opponents are statue still as you fly up to them to attack them. They cannot defend themselves against your attacks so you can take your time and strike for the best effect - poking the Hulks eyes out, cutting Thor's throat etc. Sentry has been shown recently to be much weaker than Superman or Capt Marvel (reference recent Mighty Avengers) and has yet to display super reaction time (not just super fast movement speed). Without this, he is at the prey of the 2 DC powerhouses. His durability and powers make the fight more interesting and a better puzzle to think through but in my opinion, they don't change the outcome. "

Sentry can go on par with either one Supes is weak to Lighting magic and thors hammer does it the best. Its stronger then shazams lighting. Supes has the edge on speed but no enough where thor wont land his blows in. I would say overall thor has more combat experience then anyone on the list put together times two Hulk is underestimated he has lighning quick reflexes and has beaten people who are faster then him. Hulk may not be at supes speed but his agility will make up for some of that I mean if Steel falls then the 3V2 should definetly go in the Marvel teams favor Thor with odin force on the other hand just wins flat out "

Please explain how Sentry can go on par with either Superman or Capt Marvel ?

It certainly appears he is weaker, more vulnerable and has significantly slower reaction times.

I agree that Sentry has the ability to project huges amounts of energy but how does that matter if he cannot hit his opponents with it.

He could try an omnidirectional blast but with the superspeed that Supe and Capt Marvel possess, they may be able to outrace the explosion anyway (as they have done in the past).

Back to the Lightning - if Thor cannot target his opponent with the hammer of lightning because they are moving too fast, he can do no damage.

Thor is the most skilled hand to hand fighter (I agree and said so on my first posting) but again this skill means little if his oppoents move faster than he can see or hit.

How id Thor's lightning stronger than the bolt that transforms Capt Marvel ?

It would appear that the bolt is powered by the equivalent of 7 gods - vs Thor's one.

I don't underestimate the Hulk, I was simply quoting his official OHOTMU stats (holepunched version) - equivalent of an athelete at best - not peak human, for both agility and reaction time. I am also aware of his past victories over faster opponents - but these have been fast semispeedsters in the Marvel Univers - where reaction speeds are maybe 10 - 20 times the speed of a human and some of them have been caught by him shockwaving the earth to disrupt their footing. Supes and Mavrel both fly and so would not fall pray to this attack and their reactions are several times faster than these previous opponents.

Agility means little if you cannot react fast enough to your opponents attack.

If Thor had the Odin force then the outcome would be different but as he does not for this fight, the argument is moot.

Creator, I must admit that you've made a very good point over your argument. Applause.

But Sentry can definitely beat Shazam....or put up a good fight with Supes. He has shown to be able to go toe to toe with WWH and reverse him back to Banner. He has beaten Thor and nearly destroys Asgard. His energy projection isn't irrelevant, it could really hurts Supes and Shazam (since Darkseid's OB enable to do so). He is definitely a worthy opponent for DC team here, he can change the battle's outcome.

Now. about the Shazam's 7 gods power vs Thor...it isn't a match here. You can't compare DC' god with Marvel Gods. For example, DC's Hercules hasn't shown feats that is as impressive as Marvel's version. And Thor's thunder can blows up a Planet.

You previous post mention that Thor or Hulk are no match for Supes or Shazam? Physically? and Midgard Serpents tail is only 70,000 tonnes? No, I must say. Midgard Serpents tail is about 1/3 times the mass of Earth, which is... about 2x10^24 tonnes. Thor is definitely as strong as Supes, probably stronger. But since both character haven't shown their upper limits, it's hard to say who is stronger, but at least we know Thor = Supes in Strength. And Thor has 1 advantage over Supes, Magics...which Supes is vulnerable to. But of course, Supes has his heat vision, freeze breath and something that can distract Thor a little bit.

Hulk sure can hold himself against Cap. Marvel. I mean Hulk is durable enough to take punches from Shazam or lightning zaps from him maybe. Although Hulk will get angrier and stronger throughout the fight, but Shazam has flight advantage.So I will give it to Shazam. But if they did replaces Hulk with Sentry, it will be whole lot difference. Shazam will still manage to hit Sentry a few times, before Sentry loses his patience and transform to Blood-lust mode...in that case, Shazam will be stomped.

We both agree that Ironman will takes down Steel eventually, and help Thor to bring down Supes.

So, In conclusion, if they keep Hulk on Marvel team, DC will wins...but it will takes a very long time.

but if they replaces Hulk with Sentry, Marvel team wins....Takes very long time too.