Thor who is allowed to do only things that he did in Siege? Herc can give WWHulk good battle, but Sentry can defeat that weak Thor. I see team 2 winning this.
Czarny really hit the nail on the head. Thor was pretty pathetic in Siege and Hercules i dont think can stand up to both Hulk and Sentry once Thor is taken out. Hercules atleast was one of the only heroes who had a chance to beat World War Hulk. Either Hulk or Sentry can beat either opponent with these conditions.
Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team.
"Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
Hercules was one of the only people who had the ability to beat WWH, but he let Hulk pound him to show him he was still his friend.
" Team 1 depending on what version but Sentry has the potential to kill them both. "
Doesn't matter, since he face the weakest Thor I've seen. One good energy blast and Siege-Thor is done. @bag_o_x_men said:
" Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
"Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
Hercules was one of the only people who had the ability to beat WWH, but he let Hulk pound him to show him he was still his friend. "
Would you like scans of regular Hulk mauling Herc? Herc's never been a match for Hulk except when at Hulk's base level.
"Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
Hercules was one of the only people who had the ability to beat WWH, but he let Hulk pound him to show him he was still his friend. "
Would you like scans of regular Hulk mauling Herc? Herc's never been a match for Hulk except when at Hulk's base level. "
Banner admitted Hercules was one of the only guys on the planet who had a chance at beat WWH so go ahead and post it if you want, i have my scan of Banner admitting it.
"Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
Hercules was one of the only people who had the ability to beat WWH, but he let Hulk pound him to show him he was still his friend. "
Would you like scans of regular Hulk mauling Herc? Herc's never been a match for Hulk except when at Hulk's base level. "
Banner admitted Hercules was one of the only guys on the planet who had a chance at beat WWH so go ahead and post it if you want, i have my scan of Banner admitting it. "
Banner commenting is irrelevant. Whether it's an underestimation of WWH, or an overestimation of Herc, or just something said out of respect for Herc, it doesn't match the years of feats where plain old Hulk embarrasses Herc over and over. Hulk's beaten Herc plus the rest of the Avengers a few times. Zeus is the only thing that Stopped Hulk from killing Herc once. WWH is way above Herc at normal levels.
"Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
Hercules was one of the only people who had the ability to beat WWH, but he let Hulk pound him to show him he was still his friend. "
Would you like scans of regular Hulk mauling Herc? Herc's never been a match for Hulk except when at Hulk's base level. "
Banner admitted Hercules was one of the only guys on the planet who had a chance at beat WWH so go ahead and post it if you want, i have my scan of Banner admitting it. "
can you post that scan actually? I need it for future refrence.
"Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
Hercules was one of the only people who had the ability to beat WWH, but he let Hulk pound him to show him he was still his friend. "
Would you like scans of regular Hulk mauling Herc? Herc's never been a match for Hulk except when at Hulk's base level. "
Banner admitted Hercules was one of the only guys on the planet who had a chance at beat WWH so go ahead and post it if you want, i have my scan of Banner admitting it. "
Banner commenting is irrelevant. Whether it's an underestimation of WWH, or an overestimation of Herc, or just something said out of respect for Herc, it doesn't match the years of feats where plain old Hulk embarrasses Herc over and over. Hulk's beaten Herc plus the rest of the Avengers a few times. Zeus is the only thing that Stopped Hulk from killing Herc once. WWH is way above Herc at normal levels. "
" Banner admitted Hercules could have killed him during WWH if he really wanted to instead of not fighting. and without his Void matter manipulation the Sentry doesn't come back from being nearly totally destroyed by Thor's first strike. "
Ok, but Sentry will survive thunders. He isn't limited here like Thor. This Thor is limitted to powers that he used in Siege, so pretty good strength, fly and thunders. Sentry on the other hand still has his speed, energy projection (this Mjolnir somehow wasn't able to absorb any energy in whole Siege) superstrength, etc.
dont know. thor always loses to hulk, and if this WW hulk the thing is even worse for thor "
Thor never losed to Hulk to my knowledge. And he is alsways holding back like others. Did You ever seen Thor using God Blast, Thermoblast, Anti-Force blast, drainning, BFR to other dimension or many thunders on Hulk? I've seen only one thing to that:
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Even Siege Thor was using thunders, so even this Hulk would have a problem. And Sentry wasn't trying to fight at all. In whole battle he was telling Herc, that he should stop, that he don't want to hurt him, etc.
1. Hulk has amazing feats which go largely ignored in most threads so I agree that he can, and has, beaten Hercules. Hulk is one of those characters on these threads that is often overrated (Hulk can solo Doomsday!) or underrated (Hulk is a nonfactor - this comment alone should be stricken from these threads... sheesh!!). Fact is, Hulk is a top tier badass who has taken down Thor, Hercules, Sentry, and just about every other top tier Marvel icon over the years and over his many different incarnations. This is comic book fact and many of us on the Vine need to deal with it ... and the plethora of scans that have been posted backing it.
2. Hercules was a geeky jobber for a lot of his comic book career. He was written 'awkwardly' for many years to put it mildly. So Hulk beating him versus should Hulk have beaten him are questions up for grabs. Hercules has feats that equal Hulk in pure strength and durability ... and his combat prowess should be second to none (according to canon).
Either way, this is a great, great matchup in my opinion. WWH and full powered Hercules would be an awesome battle. Awesome.
I'm going to go with Thor and Herc here assuming all characters are performing as they should in a very, very close battle.
dont know. thor always loses to hulk, and if this WW hulk the thing is even worse for thor "
Thor never losed to Hulk to my knowledge. And he is alsways holding back like others. Did You ever seen Thor using God Blast, Thermoblast, Anti-Force blast, drainning, BFR to other dimension or many thunders on Hulk? I've seen only one thing to that:
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Even Siege Thor was using thunders, so even this Hulk would have a problem. And Sentry wasn't trying to fight at all. In whole battle he was telling Herc, that he should stop, that he don't want to hurt him, etc. "
well then you should read more comics, thor have been defeated by hulk in a lot of occasions, its just that some people says its PIS, and marvel says its cannon. :).
" @czarny_samael:Cool Scans where Rulk is not fighting back )) "
He was trying to do the same tricks as he has done in the past. Thor was too fast and too powerfull for him.
@demifiend said:
" well then you should read more comics, thor have been defeated by hulk in a lot of occasions, its just that some people says its PIS, and marvel says its cannon. :). "
Can You prove Your words that Thor (616) losed with Hulk (616) in normal battle?
" Banner admitted Hercules could have killed him during WWH if he really wanted to instead of not fighting. and without his Void matter manipulation the Sentry doesn't come back from being nearly totally destroyed by Thor's first strike. "
Ok, but Sentry will survive thunders. He isn't limited here like Thor. This Thor is limitted to powers that he used in Siege, so pretty good strength, fly and thunders. Sentry on the other hand still has his speed, energy projection (this Mjolnir somehow wasn't able to absorb any energy in whole Siege) superstrength, etc. "
sentry nearly got destroyed by Thor's lightining in seige, without void powers to regenerate himslef how does he survive when Thor destroys hald his body with his first strike.
1. Hulk has amazing feats which go largely ignored in most threads so I agree that he can, and has, beaten Hercules. Hulk is one of those characters on these threads that is often overrated (Hulk can solo Doomsday!) or underrated (Hulk is a nonfactor - this comment alone should be stricken from these threads... sheesh!!). Fact is, Hulk is a top tier badass who has taken down Thor, Hercules, Sentry, and just about every other top tier Marvel icon over the years and over his many different incarnations. This is comic book fact and many of us on the Vine need to deal with it ... and the plethora of scans that have been posted backing it.
2. Hercules was a geeky jobber for a lot of his comic book career. He was written 'awkwardly' for many years to put it mildly. So Hulk beating him versus should Hulk have beaten him are questions up for grabs. Hercules has feats that equal Hulk in pure strength and durability ... and his combat prowess should be second to none (according to canon). Either way, this is a great, great matchup in my opinion. WWH and full powered Hercules would be an awesome battle. Awesome. I'm going to go with Thor and Herc here assuming all characters are performing as they should in a very, very close battle. "
Either way, this is a great, great matchup in my opinion. WWH and full powered Hercules would be an awesome battle. Awesome.
I'm going to go with Thor and Herc here assuming all characters are performing as they should in a very, very close battle.
Best answer until now.
@bag_o_x_men said:
"Regular Hulk has beaten Herc many times. Almost to death even. WWH should stomp him. Thor Sentry can go either way, but if Thor doesn't let loose and really unleash his power immediately he'll lose. Especially after Hulk finishes Herc and comes over for the double team. "
Please, please show me the scans were Hercules got beaten by Hulk MANY TIMES. Hercules only lost ONE figth against the Hulk and that was in Hulk vs Hercules Unleashed were Herc was still depowered by Zeus and was mortal. Hercules depowered is even weaker than the Thing. The other figths they had ended in a stalemate (except for WWH but Hercules wasn't figthing back). Do not try to mention things that didn't happen.
As for Thor and The Sentry I agree with you. Sentry proved to be more than an match gor even the combined forces of all the Heroes (even powered by Loki). But if they are to figth as each one should I think Thor can defeat Sentry in a one-on-one match.
As for Hercules and Hulk, I think Hercules has what it takes to take down even WWH. But in a very prolonged figth I see the Hulk slowly gaining the upper hand due to his incredible stamina (wich I think surpasses that of Hercules) and due to his incredible healing factor (much more efficient than that of Hercules).
All said, I think team 2 would and should win this.
" Banner admitted Hercules could have killed him during WWH if he really wanted to instead of not fighting. and without his Void matter manipulation the Sentry doesn't come back from being nearly totally destroyed by Thor's first strike. "
Ok, but Sentry will survive thunders. He isn't limited here like Thor. This Thor is limitted to powers that he used in Siege, so pretty good strength, fly and thunders. Sentry on the other hand still has his speed, energy projection (this Mjolnir somehow wasn't able to absorb any energy in whole Siege) superstrength, etc. "
sentry nearly got destroyed by Thor's lightining in seige, without void powers to regenerate himslef how does he survive when Thor destroys hald his body with his first strike. "
No, it wasn't Sentry it was very weakned Void. Very weakned because of Norn Stones and killing Ares. Sentry is being who can take and make planet busting energy attacks (his fight with Photon), was able to fight with The Collective (who turn Ms. Marvel into Binary and punched her away) or taking Terrax's energy beams like nothing. Thunders won't kill him.
" Banner admitted Hercules could have killed him during WWH if he really wanted to instead of not fighting. and without his Void matter manipulation the Sentry doesn't come back from being nearly totally destroyed by Thor's first strike. "
Ok, but Sentry will survive thunders. He isn't limited here like Thor. This Thor is limitted to powers that he used in Siege, so pretty good strength, fly and thunders. Sentry on the other hand still has his speed, energy projection (this Mjolnir somehow wasn't able to absorb any energy in whole Siege) superstrength, etc. "
sentry nearly got destroyed by Thor's lightining in seige, without void powers to regenerate himslef how does he survive when Thor destroys hald his body with his first strike. "
No, it wasn't Sentry it was very weakned Void. Very weakned because of Norn Stones and killing Ares. Sentry is being who can take and make planet busting energy attacks (his fight with Photon), was able to fight with The Collective (who turn Ms. Marvel into Binary and punched her away) or taking Terrax's energy beams like nothing. Thunders won't kill him. "
the Norn stones weren't being used until after he went full on void. before that Thor still nearly destroyed him when he was in his sentry form but he reshaped himself.
@czarny_samael: Fantastic Four #26. Hulk takes on and is beating the Avengers, including Thor, and the FF until Rick Jones turns him back to Banner. Submariner #35... Hulk hits Thor hard enough to make him drop Mjolnir. Not a KO, but... then Namor negotiates with the Avengers and Hulk leaves. Hulk #300... Hulk fights Thor, is about to kill him with an adamantium statue, Thor mentions this on panel, when Dr Strange teleports Hulk away. Thor #385...This is technically a stalemate since Hulk never finished Thor, but Hulk beat him senseless. Thor just refused to give up. Cool fight. Hulk #440...Hulk becomes Maestro and provokes Thor to Warrior Madness in order to avert nuclear war. This is also a stalemate, but Hulk's last shot knocks Thor away from the blast area of the nukes that are now directed at him. Scan from Hulk 2001 annual...
@alexandrinus: As far as Hulk and Herc... Giant size Hulk #1...Hulk trying to rescue Jen, and carrying a car containing his injured cousin, holds off Herc with just his feet before getting Jen to the hospital. Hulk #321 and #322... Hulk stomps the Avengers for two full issues including Namor, Wonderman, and Hercules until he's weakened at the end of the second issue. Hulk Herc Unleashed you already addressed, and it was a weaker Herc. There are a few other Hulk vs Avengers or Hulk vs Champions where he dominated both teams including Herc until outside intervention.
You can call them stalemates, but Hulk was clearly in the drivers seat every time they ever fought.
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