Thor (EMH) vs the Elite

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- Morals off

- No prep

- No BFR

- Thor has Mjolnir

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@TheAcidSkull said:

@venomoushatred1001: the elite

Explain.

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@TheAcidSkull said:

@venomoushatred1001: if this was comic book thor , i would go with him , however the EMH Thor ( same as hulk) were depowered in order to let the other guys shine, while the elite seemed very powerful, cold cast made a hole on the moon , MB was still figting without damage until superman cut the organ out of his brain, hat was tossing around demons like birds and the fourth teammate forgot the name ) seemed pretty powerful too, while EMH thor doesn't have that much feats

Hmmm.

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#7  Edited By Jorgevy

I haven't seen the Elite movie. Is it good? Im kinda interested in watching it. But Thor from EMH is still pretty powerful. I actually just watched Season 2's last episode where he was pouding hard on Galactus. and if Superman is supposed to fight these guys I dont think this is an easy fight for any side

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#8  Edited By TifaLockhart  Online

Her codename was Menagerie.

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#10  Edited By Deranged Midget

@TheAcidSkull: I disagree. If anything, Thor was faithfully represented in EMH and he easily displayed so. He wiped out the Skrull ships in Season 2 with absolute ease. Superman defeated the Elite with morals and with little trouble after he let them beat on him temporarily. Thor without morals would wipe them off the map.

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#11  Edited By Jorgevy

@TheAcidSkull: still it's a nice feat

@Deranged Midget said:

@TheAcidSkull: I disagree. If anything, Thor was faithfully represented in EMH and he easily displayed so. He wiped out the Skrull ships in Season 2 with absolute ease. Superman defeated the Elite with morals and with little trouble after he let them beat on him temporarily. Thor without morals would wipe them off the map.

and if this is true..... I don't see why Thor wouldn't be able to defeat them

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#13  Edited By Deranged Midget

@TheAcidSkull: How were Hulk and Thor de-powered? In the episodes that focused around either of them or even in the Pre-series episodes, both of them displayed massive amounts of power. I fail to see how they've been poorly mis-represented.

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#15  Edited By Deranged Midget

@TheAcidSkull: I understand what you're saying but that was all due to the plot. If they portrayed to their full potential, would it really make for an interesting fight? It would've been over in seconds.

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#18  Edited By reaperxdeath

saying that thor always holds back, without morals.... I dont thnk this would be very difficult for him at all

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#19  Edited By theTimeStreamer

thor stomps. they hurts supes a little because he let them to prove a point.

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#20  Edited By jeanroygrant

Thor beats them. He was the strongest in EMH.

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@jeanroygrant said:

Thor beats them. He was the strongest in EMH.

Wow. Thor was a BAMF in that show.

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#22  Edited By Jorgevy

@venomoushatred1001: thanks for the review, I'll think about it ;)

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#23  Edited By jeanroygrant

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor beats them. He was the strongest in EMH.

Wow. Thor was a BAMF in that show.

Yup. This Thor was more powerful than Cartoon Superman. He could beat them worse than Superman did. I swear the head he knocked off of Ultron was Adamantium.

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#24  Edited By TifaLockhart  Online

Am I thinking of the issue of Action Comics or did I watch a different "Superman vs. the Elite" movie? Cause he defeated all four but it sure as heck wasn't easy.

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#25  Edited By SpeedForceSpider

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thor stomps. they hurts supes a little because he let them to prove a point.

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#26  Edited By Dextersinister

Thor will be turned into a drooling idiot by Manchester Black.

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#27  Edited By theTimeStreamer

@Dextersinister: thor is a god. telepathy doesnt work on gods.

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#28  Edited By Dextersinister

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@Dextersinister: thor is a god. telepathy doesnt work on gods.

Thor is not immune to telepathy, he was recently stopped in his tracks by Rachel's telepathic assault in WATXM and Black is a telepathic monster. Superman was dependent on plot device telepathic blocks implanted by an unknown character to stop Black from auto winning something that is not standard issue for Supes or Thor.

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@Dextersinister said:

@theTimeStreamer said:

@Dextersinister: thor is a god. telepathy doesnt work on gods.

Thor is not immune to telepathy, he was recently stopped in his tracks by Rachel's telepathic assault in WATXM and Black is a telepathic monster. Superman was dependent on plot device telepathic blocks implanted by an unknown character to stop Black from auto winning something that is not standard issue for Supes or Thor.

This is Animated Thor.

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#30  Edited By TifaLockhart  Online

@Dextersinister: I personally attribute it to supervillain syndrome.

Black was overconfident when he proved he and his team could've literally killed Superman. If they hadn't played around, Superman would've been eating another high frequency neutrino blast before he got telefragged.

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#31  Edited By theTimeStreamer

@Dextersinister: no he wasnt. re-read the issue. rachel kept him talking long enough for namor to save her ass. her telepathy wasnt doing anything. not even PF emma could do anything telepathically to him.

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#32  Edited By Dextersinister

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Dextersinister said:

@theTimeStreamer said:

@Dextersinister: thor is a god. telepathy doesnt work on gods.

Thor is not immune to telepathy, he was recently stopped in his tracks by Rachel's telepathic assault in WATXM and Black is a telepathic monster. Superman was dependent on plot device telepathic blocks implanted by an unknown character to stop Black from auto winning something that is not standard issue for Supes or Thor.

This is Animated Thor.

Is he immune to telepathy? because his comic book counterpart has been mind controlled on a few occasions.

Aren't animated versions normally weaker. The Supes vs the Elite film seemed to be one of the few exceptions to the weaker animated versions and if Superman was as slow as Thor then his brains would be oozing out his ears as he had already shown the ability to crush his brains.

@theTimeStreamer: Telepathy was not used in AvsX because it would have ment a win for the P5. I know that sounds silly but if they had temporarily given every Avenger the mind of simple jack they would have won. Telepathy fell under forced forgotten power syndrome because it's should be an auto-win in most cases.

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#33  Edited By Dextersinister

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@Dextersinister: no he wasnt. re-read the issue. rachel kept him talking long enough for namor to save her ass. her telepathy wasnt doing anything. not even PF emma could do anything telepathically to him.

Of course it effected him. Her causing him to fall to his knees is one of the reasons Thor fans are so angry about his current jobbing run.

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#34  Edited By joshmightbe

I go with Thor since he'd jump to the beat the s**t out of them option a lot quicker than Superman, Simply put Thor is just plain meaner than Superman and wouldn't hesitate to put them in the morgue if it was necessary.

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#35  Edited By TifaLockhart  Online

How fast is EMH Thor?

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@Dextersinister said:

@theTimeStreamer said:

@Dextersinister: no he wasnt. re-read the issue. rachel kept him talking long enough for namor to save her ass. her telepathy wasnt doing anything. not even PF emma could do anything telepathically to him.

Of course it effected him. Her causing him to fall to his knees is one of the reasons Thor fans are so angry about his current jobbing run.

Her TP did nothing to him. He even stated so.

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#37  Edited By theTimeStreamer

@joshmightbe: thats why we love him more. that and a sweet hammer.

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#38  Edited By greenteaforme

@Jorgevy said:

I haven't seen the Elite movie. Is it good? Im kinda interested in watching it. But Thor from EMH is still pretty powerful. I actually just watched Season 2's last episode where he was pouding hard on Galactus. and if Superman is supposed to fight these guys I dont think this is an easy fight for any side

It was a very good movie. I didn't enjoy the way Superman was styled (his face is a big glob), but the message is clear and solid, and it really makes you appreciate Superman as more than a two-dimensional "boyscout" character.

In any case, Black mind crushes for a win.

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#39  Edited By Dextersinister

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Dextersinister said:

@theTimeStreamer said:

@Dextersinister: no he wasnt. re-read the issue. rachel kept him talking long enough for namor to save her ass. her telepathy wasnt doing anything. not even PF emma could do anything telepathically to him.

Of course it effected him. Her causing him to fall to his knees is one of the reasons Thor fans are so angry about his current jobbing run.

Her TP did nothing to him. He even stated so.

He stated as much then she floored him, then Namor jumps in. If Rachel can do that to Thor then Black will be sending him home in a match box.

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@greenteaforme: @Dextersinister: Any reasoning or feats to support this?

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#41  Edited By joshmightbe

@Dextersinister: There is no proof that Black is anywhere near Rachel Summers' power level

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#42  Edited By Dextersinister

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@Dextersinister: There is no proof that Black is anywhere near Rachel Summers' power level

Did you watch the movie or read a comic with him in it? I didn't say he would beat Galactus like PF powered Rachel just Thor.

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#43  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

Saying Thor was depowered for the show means nothing, his feats are still impressive enough for him to beat the Elite

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#44  Edited By joshmightbe

@Dextersinister: seen the comic and the movie and even without the PF Rachel is still on a whole other level than Black

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@YuriRepedeRitaCarol said:

Superman already beats Thor with no effort. Thor will die in this fight

....This is both incorrect and irrelevant.

Please, give an actual reason why Thor would lose.

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#46  Edited By theTimeStreamer

@Dextersinister: she just pushed him back with tk. that scan doesnt prove anything. and talking smack proves even less.

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#47  Edited By greenteaforme

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@greenteaforme: @Dextersinister: Any reasoning or feats to support this?

Any reasoning or feats to defend against it?

As far as I recall, Black killed his father in this manner.

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#48  Edited By greenteaforme

@Dextersinister said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Dextersinister said:

@theTimeStreamer said:

@Dextersinister: no he wasnt. re-read the issue. rachel kept him talking long enough for namor to save her ass. her telepathy wasnt doing anything. not even PF emma could do anything telepathically to him.

Of course it effected him. Her causing him to fall to his knees is one of the reasons Thor fans are so angry about his current jobbing run.

Her TP did nothing to him. He even stated so.

He stated as much then she floored him, then Namor jumps in. If Rachel can do that to Thor then Black will be sending him home in a match box.

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Comic feats are not viable in either case's argument in this thread.

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#49  Edited By joshmightbe

If its the Elite from the movie Thor will slaughter

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#50  Edited By Jorgevy

I don't know why people are insisting on comic feats when this is obviously animated versions of the characters...