Thor & Doomsday vs Betta Ray Bill & Juggernaut

Win by ko or death. Takes place in New York. No BFR. All bloodlust. Morals off. No worrier madness.

@Bo88gdan said:

BRB>Thor

Juggernaut>doomsday

lolwtf

other way around buddy

Team 1.

@Hksaru said:

@Bo88gdan said:

BRB>Thor

Juggernaut>doomsday

lolwtf

other way around buddy

@jeanroygrant said:

@Bo88gdan said:

BRB>Thor

Juggernaut>doomsday

Yeah that's why Beta Ray Bill always kisses the floor Thor is walking on.

Agreed with both.

Team 1 wins.

Vouile

Team 2 juggernaut can take down thor and than him and BRB can take out doomsday.

@jeanroygrant said:

@Bo88gdan said:

BRB>Thor

Juggernaut>doomsday

Yeah that's why Beta Ray Bill always kisses the floor Thor is walking on.

Beta Ray Bill defeated Thor before he had Stormbreaker (though that was because he knocked Mjonlir out of Thor's hand long enough for him to revert to Donald Blake, but the two were pretty even before that).

Beta Ray Bill "defeated" Thor in hand to hand combat, when the two were fighting over the rights to Mjonlir. Though they stalemated, Beta Ray Bill was rejuvenated by the volcano they were fighting within.

Thor defeated Beta Ray Bill (though didn't KO him) when he was affected by Warrior's Madness.

Morals On, Beta Ray Bill beats Thor every time. Morals Off, it's probably closer to 50/50. Warrior Madness readily available, Thor should win 8/10 or more.

As for the fight....

Juggernaut should take this as long as he isn't jobbernaut.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

No worrie madness

@Jbhdbc said:

No worrie madness

I would think so, Thor hasn't been able to do Warrior's Madness for years. I think he lost the ability to enter that state of mind back in the early 2000's IIRC.

With BFR disabled, it's going to be Juggernaut or Doomsday. With BFR it'd be Beta Ray Bill or Thor.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Thor is superior to BRB in my opinion, and i believe that he would be able to edge him. I think that Doomsday is superior to Jugg's for the sole reason that Doomsdays has already been beaten to death, thus leaving no way for Juggernaut to kill him.

So team 1 for me

While BRB could in theory take Thor, I still give it to team 1.

IMO it comes down to Juggs and Dooms - can Doomsday hurt Juggs, if not - stalemate

@gboat73 said:

IMO it comes down to Juggs and Dooms - can Doomsday hurt Juggs, if not - stalemate

he should be able to, i mean, he has beaten Superman to death and beaten Darkseid to near death, and although their Durability isn't at the level that Jugg's is at, it really cant be that far off

@jeanroygrant said:

@Floopay said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Bo88gdan said:

BRB>Thor

Juggernaut>doomsday

Yeah that's why Beta Ray Bill always kisses the floor Thor is walking on.

Beta Ray Bill defeated Thor before he had Stormbreaker (though that was because he knocked Mjonlir out of Thor's hand long enough for him to revert to Donald Blake, but the two were pretty even before that).

Beta Ray Bill "defeated" Thor in hand to hand combat, when the two were fighting over the rights to Mjonlir. Though they stalemated, Beta Ray Bill was rejuvenated by the volcano they were fighting within.

Thor defeated Beta Ray Bill (though didn't KO him) when he was affected by Warrior's Madness.

Morals On, Beta Ray Bill beats Thor every time. Morals Off, it's probably closer to 50/50. Warrior Madness readily available, Thor should win 8/10 or more.

As for the fight....

Juggernaut should take this as long as he isn't jobbernaut.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

The first fight went to Beta Ray Bill because reasons already stated.

The second round went to Bill because Odin put them both in a place ( Very hot area ) so that Bill could have an advantage over Thor, to test Thor's might. Bill ended up winning when him and Thor strike each other at the same time, and both being dropped by the attack, Bill than gets up faster, due to his better heat resistance.

Thor already stomped Beta Ray Bill, Silver Surfer, and Adam Warlock. Even though it was stated to be Warrior's Madness he still thrashed 3 powerhouses at the same time. Current Thor has held his own with Silver Surfer, while weakened, while Bill got thrashed in a matter of 1 or 2 pages. I highly doubt Marvel would make Bill a stronger version of Thor, or exceed the guy he basically mimics. Beta Ray Bill also does suck up to Thor though. Calling him the mighty Thor, and stuff.

Also the reason why people think Bill is stronger than Thor, is because Bill's character revolves around fighting morals off on basically any enemy, while Thor only does it to people who he finds are as powerful as him, or stronger. When Thor fought against Hulk all those times, he held back, but when he fights beings like Surtur, Glory, Galactus, he goes all out. But Bill went all out on Stardust, Fenris, Thor, ect. So, no Bill is not more powerful as a morals of Thor. Read Chaos War for an example of a morals off Thor.

You pretty much stated exactly what I stated about how I feel about Thor vs. Beta Ray Bill. And though he may not have been "Warrior's Madness" mode, he clearly was severely amplified. Even you have to admit, as great as Thor is, he should not be taking on those three simultaneously.

Beta Ray Bill doesn't fight Morals Off, he just doesn't tone himself down to fight lesser opponents. He often goes for the KO over the kill, he's just seems to know his limits better.

Morals Off I believe these two are very even. Did BRB lose to Silver Surfer? Yes, but in all fairness Thor also lost to Ego, so at this point they're sort of 50/50. Beta Ray Bill, if anything, has often been portrayed as Thor's equal in almost every capacity. Hence why I believe they should go 5/10 both ways in a morals off fight.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Juggernaut can go forever as long as you can't BFR him. I see BRB and Juggernaut win. With Juggernaut as MVP due to ability to just tank hits, all he has to do is takeout Doomsday and help BRB take down Thor.

Hmmm really even fight.

I say slight edge to Thor and Doomsday.

Juggernaut is virtually indestructible doomsday isn't. Doomsday can die by hand to hand combat when doomsday dies juggernaut will help BRB to finish off Thor.

Thor and BRB will KO each other.

Juggs cant be KO'ed by Doomsday. Team 2 wins

BUMP

@Jbhdbc said:

Win by ko or death. Takes place in New York. No BFR. All bloodlust. Morals off. No worrie madness.

Which version of Doomsday?

I actually don't see how Thor and DD can handle Juggs. I'm pretty sure they can't kill or KO him, right? With BFR gone (which is literally how anyone beats non jobbing Juggs in the last decade), he can infinitely tank. And Juggs wouldn't be able to hurt DD after he evolves to take his hits. Stalemate. Perfectly even fight between, even though Thor is slight > BRB, if only because no one is taking out Juggernaut.

@Dredeuced said:

I actually don't see how Thor and DD can handle Juggs. I'm pretty sure they can't kill or KO him, right? And Juggs wouldn't be able to hurt DD after he evolves to take his hits. Stalemate. Perfectly even fight between, even though Thor is slight > BRB, if only because no one is taking out Juggernaut.

Has Juggernaut really gotten to this point? Where he can at least pull a stalemate against a vastly stronger and faster opponent just because nothing can put him down?

I'm going with team 1 here. I think Thor is slightly better than Beta Ray and I believe Doomsday can handle Juggernaut.

Yeah, he can't take sustained damage. Even if you vaporize his body the gem just pops him back to normal, full strength. People beat him by throwing him to the side a few thousand miles. I think sometimes he gets beat by having the gem removed (Onslaught did it iirc, not sure who else), but neither Thor nor Doomsday have that ability.

Team 2 ftw

@Bo88gdan: Good joke. In what context is that even applicable?

Juggernaut is morals off and bloodlusted. Simply put, that means Cain is giving in 100% to the power of Cyttorak - the power of a god.

On the opposite side of the fence, Thor is bloodlusted and without morals. That Thor risks giving into warrior's madness. While I agree the two are all but equals, a bloodlusted Thor will defeat a bloodlusted BRB in the end I believe.

As such, this is a tough match to call. Does Thor defeat BRB before Juggs takes down Doomsday? I tend to think not.

I've got to give a slight, slight, majority to team 2 here.