#1 Posted by logy5000 (5779 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1:

Classic versions of Thor & BRB.

Sinestro Corps War version of Parallax

Morals on.

Round 2:

Team has Surtur for backup, Parallax has Anti-Monitor for backup.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't this Parallax featless? I've SCW and I don't recall even one good fight of PArallax from this stroy. At least not good enough to be remembered as one that gives him ability to fight with Herald/Thor/Superman level people and win. 
And AM stomps of course.

#3 Posted by mk111 (3140 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thor and Bill could beat Parallax, but Anti-Moniter would probably beat them.

#4 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that the team wins

#5 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

A clear mismatch, Parallax should have no problem with Thor and BRB together.

Parallax vs Surtur is a interesting match up, but by giving Anti Monitor as a back up, even the sinestro corps war version.

@czarny_samael666: Parallax from SCW isnt any different from Parallax that as appeared before or since, the only exception being Zero Hour because there he had 2 extra boosts: the energies of Green Lantern central battery, and left over energies from COIE.

Here are Parallax's feat as Hal Jordan (just a copy paste from my post at Odin vs Parallax thread)

Final Night 04: Defeated Sun-eater (a force of nature who goes around eating stars) and re-ginited the sun but died in the process

Green Lantern , Volume 03 Issue 0: Fights Kyle Rayner, they look quite evenly matched(which is weird) and the fight ends with Kyle destroying OA (and Parallax came specifically to absorb energies from OA) and Kyle flies away.

Green Lantern, Volume 03, Issue 63/ 64: Fights and beats the Justice League, albeit with some difficulty

Green Lantern Volume 3, Issue 105: easily beat Guy and beat Kyle, although again seem to have some problem against him

Green Lantern Volume 4, Issue 50 : It was stated that even Spectre is afraid of Parallax (last panel), not sure what to make of that, or if that even counts as a feat.

Green Lantern Volume 4, Issue 51: (the very next issue after the above scan) Parallax fights and frees Spectre from his Black Lantern form, then rips his face off (which was pretty cool), Spectre confirms he is afraid of Parallax but manages to use Hal Jordan's connection with Carol to rip the Parallax entity out of Hal Jordan

I am missing scans from Justice League where under Parallax's control John Stewart solos the Justice League, apart from that i believe this covers most, if not all, of Parallax (as Hal Jordan, i am knowingly not including feats of Kyle as parallax) outside Zero Hour.

#6 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

I am honestly surprised people actually think Thor and BRB could beat Parallax when Parallax beat JLA despite having a guardian to help them.

#7 Posted by dondave (37460 posts) - - Show Bio

Parralax ftw

#8 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall
You're wrong. You're showing me Hal Jordan and it was Kyle Rayner who was Parallax in SCW. He is featless, unti You can show Kyle's feats with Parallax.
#9 Posted by logy5000 (5779 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: What about round 2?

#10 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

paralax outclasses them so much

#11 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Killemall: You're wrong. You're showing me Hal Jordan and it was Kyle Rayner who was Parallax in SCW. He is featless, unti You can show Kyle's feats with Parallax.

Oopsy :) my bad .

#12 Edited by BlueHope (360 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone who can fight with spectre can probably destroy the hammer dudes in any version, even a featlees one

#13 Posted by Saren (25679 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

I am missing scans from Justice League where under Parallax's control John Stewart solos the Justice League, apart from that i believe this covers most, if not all, of Parallax (as Hal Jordan, i am knowingly not including feats of Kyle as parallax) outside Zero Hour.

Here you go. Green Lantern: Rebirth #2-3.

Also, while possessed by Parallax, Guy Gardner one-shotted Martian Manhunter.

Later on in the same story, Parallax beat Superman, Power Girl, Dr. Fate and Supergirl all at once just by yelling "FEAR ME" at them; his mere presence was corroding everyone's minds with fear, forcing them to hold back.

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#14 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Thank you :) So which issue is it when Parallax beat Superman, Power Girl , Dr. Fate and Supergirl? Coz then i can have my collection of Parallax feat complete :)

#15 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Killemall: What about round 2?

Parallax should win both rounds, the way i see it.

#16 Posted by Saren (25679 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Issue 4. It's only one panel actually; they rush at Parallax, he snarls "Fear me" and they all drop from the sky.

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#17 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Hammer Twins Ftw

#18 Posted by Needlebay (1936 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

Hammer Twins Ftw

Huh? How so?

#19 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@logy5000 said:

@Killemall: What about round 2?

Parallax should win both rounds, the way i see it.

Based on? Round 2 is clear win for AM, but what has Rayner done to put him in their level?
#20 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Based on? Round 2 is clear win for AM, but what has Rayner done to put him in their level?

Based on the performance of other Parallax avatar, like John soloing Justice League , Guy Gardner one shotting MM.

Kyle is still Parallax, and without Hal Jordon to first convince him, then accept the parallax entity into himself, there isnt much team 1 can do. Even if we say he doesnt have feat, we still have some pretty awesome feat from 2 Parallax avatar and there really isnt anything suggesting he would be weaker?

#21 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Based on? Round 2 is clear win for AM, but what has Rayner done to put him in their level?

Based on the performance of other Parallax avatar, like John soloing Justice League , Guy Gardner one shotting MM.

Kyle is still Parallax, and without Hal Jordon to first convince him, then accept the parallax entity into himself, there isnt much team 1 can do. Even if we say he doesnt have feat, we still have some pretty awesome feat from 2 Parallax avatar and there really isnt anything suggesting he would be weaker?

There isn't anything that he will actually be powerfull. Wasn't Flash also possesed by Parallax? And weren't all entities in possesion of other people and weren't they showed to be weaker than these two guys? Not that it matter - Kyle is featless, ergo he can't win this battle.
#22 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

There isn't anything that he will actually be powerfull. Wasn't Flash also possesed by Parallax? And weren't all entities in possesion of other people and weren't they showed to be weaker than these two guys? Not that it matter - Kyle is featless, ergo he can't win this battle.

Flash wasnt shown to be weaker, not did he actually lose a fight or was ever hurt, cant recall how they got parallax out of him though. Neither has any one who has Possessed by Parallax have actually been defeated apart from by Spectre.

Only expection is Krona, but he was never take over by parallax he was just channeling the entity around him.

Not that it matter - Kyle is featless, ergo he can't win this battle.

Agree to disagree, when we have clear evidence to suggest he would be at the very least more powerful than the two, drawn from the fact that not only Hal Jordan, but John as well as Guy were rather handily amped with Parallax, i think at least to me its reasonable to think Kyle would indeed win.

#23 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll never say that a featless being wins, so..

Team stomps.

#24 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall :
 
As Cap Universe, but would You say that Cap Hulk stomps beings in this level? Cap Universe who was normal human, was able to psionically stomp Juggernaut and Cap. Invisible Woman hold Gladiator in place. Yet, for me we can't measure how much more powerfull Thor or Sentry would be with its power. 
We do know what kind of powers Quantum Bands give, similar with Power Cosmic. But this two combined gived Silver Surfer much more than just sum of both. 
We do know that OF Thor won with Bor who would kill normal Thor in one shot. No being below Skyfather level is known to be able to kill being in Thor level in one shot. Yet, we don't consider King Thor, Lord Mar-Vell and DP Tyrant as galaxy busters, even while they shown that they can stomp herald level. And they weren't defeated by beings lesser than Skyfathers. So in theory we could assume that they are indeed in Odin level, ergo that they can destroy whole galaxies in one move. Sorry, but this logic would bring us to improbable conclusions.
#25 Edited by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

Parallax rotfl stomps both of them.

#26 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@xxxddd said:

Parallax rotfl stomps both of them.

Kyle Rayner-Parallax feats?
#27 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 2 morals off?

#28 Posted by iamthewolf88 (346 posts) - - Show Bio

Parallax..........

#29 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: How many comics have you read?

#30 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Killemall: How many comics have you read?

LOL, i little less than what (@CitizenBane:) has read :p

#31 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: How many comics has citizenbane read?

#32 Posted by Killemall (18580 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@Killemall: How many comics has citizenbane read?

A little more than what i have read

#33 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

A little more than what i have read

.......Of course........

#34 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@iamthewolf88 said:

Parallax..........

@czarny_samael666

Kyle Rayner-Parallax feats?