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  • No prep, no bfr, no time limit, possess only gear shown in picture, all bloodlusted, win by death of team, located on an Empty Earth

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  • Classic Thor possesses theOdin ForceandSpeed Force
  • Pre 52 Superman has been sundipped for 10 hours
  • WW/BA are pre-52
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#2  Edited By Jorgevy

is that pic of Majestic and Supes from a crossover?

Also, Majestic is just to powerful for those guys, even if Thor has the Speedforce (unless he can pull of the same speed and power that the best Flash can)

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#3  Edited By Killemall

@Jorgevy said:

is that pic of Majestic and Supes from a crossover?

Also, Majestic is just to powerful for those guys, even if Thor has the Speedforce (unless he can pull of the same speed and power that the best Flash can)

Thor has the speed force sort of means he has the entire speed force right? That would put him in Wally's speed while he was fighting Zoom with abilities of Prof. Zoom that he showed during Flash Point Saga. He would absolutely curbstomp all three at once.

But i believe he was given speed force to prevent people from saying Thor's too slow.

Also normally Mr. Majestic isnt as powerful as people are now beginning to think, he's still stronger and faster than Superman but not by a massive margin. The problem is odin force Thor is not slouch.

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#4  Edited By Jorgevy

@Killemall: well I never read WildStorm (Im beggining to with the current WS - DC fusion in New 52) but I always assumed Majestic was away above Superman and Thor

and the Speed Force thing, that's what I thought, if he has acess to SF levels like Wally he owns it

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#5  Edited By bluepride1234

THOR can SOLO. Speed force and odin force more then enough.

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#6  Edited By bluepride1234

@Jorgevy said:

is that pic of Majestic and Supes from a crossover?

Also, Majestic is just to powerful for those guys, even if Thor has the Speedforce (unless he can pull of the same speed and power that the best Flash can)

To have speed force is to have the same speed of flash.

Just think...Odin force thor with wallys speed. Dear god..

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#7  Edited By majestic99

@bluepride1234 said:

THOR can SOLO. Speed force and odin force more then enough.

How he can do that to a SUNDIPPED Superman?

@Jorgevy said:

is that pic of Majestic and Supes from a crossover?

Also, Majestic is just to powerful for those guys, even if Thor has the Speedforce (unless he can pull of the same speed and power that the best Flash can)

I think so.

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#8  Edited By majestic99

@Killemall said:

But i believe he was given speed force to prevent people from saying Thor's too slow.

Correct. Thor's lack of reactionary speed feats is the only reason why he loses to beings like Superman or Black Adams.

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#9  Edited By bluepride1234

@majestic99 said:

@bluepride1234 said:

THOR can SOLO. Speed force and odin force more then enough.

How he can do that to a SUNDIPPED Superman?

@Jorgevy said:

is that pic of Majestic and Supes from a crossover?

Also, Majestic is just to powerful for those guys, even if Thor has the Speedforce (unless he can pull of the same speed and power that the best Flash can)

I think so.

10 days sundipped superman is not enough to take care of a bloodlusted thor with odin force and speed force. Thor could potentially kill supes just as he comes outta the sun.

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#10  Edited By majestic99

@bluepride1234 said:

10 days sundipped superman is not enough to take care of a bloodlusted thor with odin force and speed force. Thor could potentially kill supes just as he comes outta the sun.

The fight begins on the ground on an empty Earth, not in space.

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#11  Edited By bluepride1234

@majestic99 said:

@bluepride1234 said:

10 days sundipped superman is not enough to take care of a bloodlusted thor with odin force and speed force. Thor could potentially kill supes just as he comes outta the sun.

The fight begins on the ground on an empty Earth, not in space.

That's even worse lol. Supes will not see thor before he gets punched to death

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#12  Edited By majestic99

@bluepride1234 said:

That's even worse lol. Supes will not see thor before he gets punched to death

Sundipping exponentially increases Superman's powers. I'm pretty sure Superman can do something.

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#13  Edited By majestic99

@Killemall:

Don't you think a sundipped Superman will put up a fight here?

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#14  Edited By Killemall

@majestic99 said:

@Killemall:

Don't you think a sundipped Superman will put up a fight here?

It looked like Superman has been watered down a notch or two so i dont think a sun dipped superman being a huge problem for pre 52 Wonder Woman. She has more feats to claim she's stronger and faster and she's always been a lot better fighter.

I dont know if its just me but as far as Thor's speed is not into question i think Odin Force Thor can contend with Mr. Majestic. I am leaning towards team 1 here but i will wait for buckshot to enter this thread. We would wanna know his opinion specially when it comes to Majestic of whom he's pretty much an expert.

Also , nothing related to the thread it saw WW/BA (which i assume is black adam) are pre 52. Black Adam isnt even in this thread :)

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#15  Edited By majestic99

@Killemall:

Well, I've read Majestic comics, so what do you want to know about him?(strength, speed,personality,etc.)

Just know that Majestic with prep is the only being more deadly than Batman with prep.

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#16  Edited By Killemall

@majestic99 said:

@Killemall:

Well, I've read Majestic comics, what do you want to know about him?(strength, speed,personality,etc.)

Just know that Majestic with prep is the only being more deadly than Batman with prep.

Re-read the op again, dont see anything about prep, am i missing something.

Actually scratch everything i have said about Superman before, didnt realise he was being sundipped for 10 days straight. Considering that his powers have increased four folds with less than an hour of sun dipping superman is going to slaughter both of them with a 10 days straight sun dipping.

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#17  Edited By majestic99

@Killemall:

I was asking what do you want to know about Majestic in general?

And I've changed it to 10 hours.

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#18  Edited By whacknasty

Has it ever been estimated how much Supes' powers are magnified by the amount of time he spends sundipping? For example, an hour makes him 1x stronger/faster/durable than his norm, 2 hours makes him 2x etc?

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#19  Edited By Killemall

@majestic99 said:

@Killemall:

I was asking what do you want to know about Majestic in general?

And I've changed it to 10 hours.

Oh sorry, i seem to have completely misunderstood you. Well not really anything specific, if you could suggest some interesting story arc to suggest.

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#20  Edited By jeanroygrant

Thor solo's all 3.

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Why do you always have to give Thor some ridiculous upgrade? Such as possessing the Speed Force and the Odin Force...lol

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#22  Edited By vuviper

@_slim_ said:

Why do you always have to give Thor some ridiculous upgrade? Such as possessing the Speed Force and the Odin Force...lol

It's just the same guy

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@vuviper said:

@_slim_ said:

Why do you always have to give Thor some ridiculous upgrade? Such as possessing the Speed Force and the Odin Force...lol

It's just the same guy

Who is just the same guy? Thor?

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#24  Edited By vuviper

@_slim_ said:

@vuviper said:

@_slim_ said:

Why do you always have to give Thor some ridiculous upgrade? Such as possessing the Speed Force and the Odin Force...lol

It's just the same guy

Who is just the same guy? Thor?

The same user OH i misread your post

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#25  Edited By Jorgevy

@_slim_: I think that he believes Thor's speed is on level with Superman's and Majestic's but he cant prove it through showings so he uses this a way of making sure people dont yell stomp without even thinking about it

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@vuviper said:

@_slim_ said:

@vuviper said:

@_slim_ said:

Why do you always have to give Thor some ridiculous upgrade? Such as possessing the Speed Force and the Odin Force...lol

It's just the same guy

Who is just the same guy? Thor?

The same user OH i misread your post

Oh, okay. That's what I thought you meant.

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#27  Edited By majestic99

@Jorgevy said:

@_slim_: I think that he believes Thor's speed is on level with Superman's and Majestic's but he cant prove it through showings so he uses this a way of making sure people dont yell stomp without even thinking about it

How?

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#28  Edited By Floopay

The Flash with the speed force can hit someone like Superman hard enough to strike blood, and he doesn't have strength anywhere near Thor's level, or a weapon like Mjonlir. Could you imagine Thor throwing an IMP with Mjonlir, or even just with his fist!? Plus he has OF? This is a bit much.

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#29  Edited By majestic99

@Floopay said:

The Flash with the speed force can hit someone like Superman hard enough to strike blood, and he doesn't have strength anywhere near Thor's level, or a weapon like Mjonlir. Could you imagine Thor throwing an IMP with Mjonlir, or even just with his fist!? Plus he has OF? This is a bit much.

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I gave Thor the speed force because without it Thor would be the weak link due to his lack of reactionary speed feats.

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#30  Edited By majestic99

@Floopay:

Not going to respond? Great! Just Great!

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#31  Edited By a88378438

team two easily...

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#32  Edited By Resonance

@majestic99 said:

I gave Thor the speed force because without it Thor would be the weak link due to his lack of reactionary speed feats.

Giving him access to the speed force is overkill.

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#33  Edited By fangirl101
@jeanroygrant: Um, No. Not. Not even. Not ever. 
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#34  Edited By Floopay

@majestic99: You didn't ask a question you made a statement :P

I think Thor has plenty good reaction feats to be completely honest. People place him as a slouch in this department for some reason but he has been said to move as fast as the lightning he commands. Beta Ray Bill has also displayed nanosecond reflex times or better, as has the Silver Surfer, and Thor has fought on equal ground with them multiple times. I think giving him Odin Force and maybe toning down Superman's time being sun dipped would even this fight out a lot more to be honest.

Speed Force Thor would knock Superman backwards in time with a single strike!

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#35  Edited By majestic99

@Resonance said:


Giving him access to the speed force is overkill.

How? Without it he's slow, and thus, the weak link.

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@fangirl101 said:

@jeanroygrant: Um, No. Not. Not even. Not ever.

Um, yes. Yup. Yes even. Yes ever.

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#37  Edited By fangirl101

Superman already beat Thor. WW can split evenly with Thor. Majestic can prolly pull 4/10. So No. Thor cannot and will not ever solo all three. If we did a battlezone, I'd prove that Thor can't even beat WW for a majority. He'd break even at most. 

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#38  Edited By 0n1zuka

@fangirl101: Thor posses the Odin Force and the Speed Force in this battle. He can solo with that kind of power.

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#39  Edited By Jorgevy

@majestic99 said:

@Jorgevy said:

@_slim_: I think that he believes Thor's speed is on level with Superman's and Majestic's but he cant prove it through showings so he uses this a way of making sure people dont yell stomp without even thinking about it

How?

@majestic99 said:

@Floopay said:

The Flash with the speed force can hit someone like Superman hard enough to strike blood, and he doesn't have strength anywhere near Thor's level, or a weapon like Mjonlir. Could you imagine Thor throwing an IMP with Mjonlir, or even just with his fist!? Plus he has OF? This is a bit much.

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I gave Thor the speed force because without it Thor would be the weak link due to his lack of reactionary speed feats.

THIS. I assume you gave him Speed Force even though you believe he is fast. But since you cant prove it because of the lack of feats, you give him the speed force, right? Or am I reading into it too much?

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#40  Edited By majestic99

@Jorgevy said:

THIS. I assume you gave him Speed Force even though you believe he is fast. But since you cant prove it because of the lack of feats, you give him the speed force, right? Or am I reading into it too much?

What I'm saying it's not that Thor doesn't have reactionary speed feats, it's just that Thor doesn't have as many as someone like Superman or Wally West-meaning in battles his lack speed feats means he's the weak link when it comes to speed.

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#41  Edited By Jorgevy

@majestic99: that's kinda what I said. I understood you were trying to shield him from being attack as the slowest and therefore, the weak link

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#42  Edited By majestic99

@Jorgevy said:

@majestic99: that's kinda what I said. I understood you were trying to shield him from being attack as the slowest and therefore, the weak link

Oh. Who do you think wins again?

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#43  Edited By Jorgevy

@majestic99: eh, I dont think I have said it already, but assuming Thor can acess as much Speed Force as Wally, the God couple takes it

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#44  Edited By majestic99

@Jorgevy said:

@majestic99: eh, I dont think I have said it already, but assuming Thor can acess as much Speed Force as Wally, the God couple takes it

Like, in a win, stomp, what?

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#45  Edited By Jorgevy

@majestic99: near stomp. Not quite, because I think Majestic is quite powerful, but Im not expert

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#47  Edited By Jorgevy

@majestic99: still, It's classic Thor + OdinForce + SpeedForce, so even if it's not that near a stomp, team 1 wins IMO

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#48  Edited By majestic99

@Jorgevy said:

@majestic99: still, It's classic Thor + OdinForce + SpeedForce, so even if it's not that near a stomp, team 1 wins IMO

Okay.

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#50  Edited By deadpool6_6_6

superman and majestic easily win.