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#1 Posted by King Saturn (224218 posts) - - Show Bio


Can Thor at current levels ( without the use of his Hammer ) and Green Hulk ( at recent levels of power ) defeat Kalibak in an all out fight on Earth... lets say Thor's Hammer is in a safe place where it cant be harmed... so he isnt tampered with in this fight...

 
 
 

#2 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty badass fight but I'm pretty sure Kalibak's gonna get f'd up here

#3 Posted by King Saturn (224218 posts) - - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:
" Pretty badass fight but I'm pretty sure Kalibak's gonna get f'd up here "
can you explain why ? Cause Kalibak has given Superman a pretty good run before in the past... and Thor ( without his Hammer ) as well as The Hulk can match the overall ability of Superman... 
#4 Posted by stevon (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

this is actually an even fight, but I'm only giving it to team one because it's two against one, and hulk's healing factor is going to do him good if I'm not mistaken. Kalibak has gone up against superman, and has given him a run for his money. The only Kalibak appearance I have is our worlds at war, and Supes dealt with him quickly.
#5 Posted by King Saturn (224218 posts) - - Show Bio
@stevon said:
" this is actually an even fight, but I'm only giving it to team one because it's two against one, and hulk's healing factor is going to do him good if I'm not mistaken. Kalibak has gone up against superman, and has given him a run for his money. The only Kalibak appearance I have is our worlds at war, and Supes dealt with him quickly. "
Superman has had occasions where he has dealt with Kalibak quickly... but then again Superman has had occasion where he has dealt with Darkseid rather quickly... so what I like to think of those instances is PIS at its best... now thats not to say Superman cant beat Kalibak... he just cant beat him easily
#6 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

does kalibak have his club here? if he does i think his chance of winning here isn't too bad imo 
if not altho i think it may be quite difficult eventually he could, the thing is kalibak also has speed and reflexes to keep up with the likes of supes and diana and i just don't see how hulk and thor without his main source of power can keep up with him, overall i think kalibak possess greater physical attributes in terms of strength as well as durability than of thor and hulk imo

#7 Posted by SgtRYNO (170 posts) - - Show Bio

K kalibak gets squashed by the hulk, while thor is protesting to the hulk about him being a warrior and this being his battle, thor and hulk start fighting, and punch out kalibak while they are argueing , then have a smashing good time, wake up later, then go home to earth via thors hammer.

#8 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio

With Mjolnir being a non-factor here, I honestly don't see team one pulling out the victory.
#9 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio

 Kalibak

#10 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

The two together should get the job done. 
Kalibak is about half as strong as Supes
#11 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
"The two together should get the job done. Kalibak is about half as strong as Supes "

And less then half as smart lol.
#12 Posted by Zaterra (1140 posts) - - Show Bio

Kalibak will lose here I believe, but Superman is more powerful then him, Thor and Hulk.

#13 Posted by kagetaicho (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor with no hammer is basically the same. he still has nearly all his powers including weather control.He alone could give Kalibak an even fight and Hulk would definitely make it a win.

#14 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@kagetaicho said:
" Thor with no hammer is basically the same. he still has nearly all his powers including weather control.He alone could give Kalibak an even fight and Hulk would definitely make it a win. "
Except he can't fly or has a giant hammer to smack people around with...
#15 Posted by thatguy (1206 posts) - - Show Bio
@SgtRYNO said:
" K kalibak gets squashed by the hulk, while thor is protesting to the hulk about him being a warrior and this being his battle, thor and hulk start fighting, and punch out kalibak while they are argueing , then have a smashing good time, wake up later, then go home to earth via thors hammer. "
you know nothing of Kalibak........he would stomp all over Hulk so quickly......
#16 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio

I am gonna have to go with Thor and Hulk, all three are pretty evenly matched by themselves so with two on one. As long as Hulk and Thor can coexist that is.

#17 Posted by Samurai X (577 posts) - - Show Bio

The team
Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda

#18 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio

Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 
@Samurai X said:

" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "

Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite?
#19 Edited by Samurai X (577 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 
@Samurai X said:

" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "
Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite? "
Kalibaks low showings are more consistent, he hasnt even been a major threat to Superman or any brick for a few decades now
 
And he didnt just fight Miracle and Barda and lose, he flat out got owned by them
#20 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio
@Samurai X said:
" @Baldy said:

" Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 
@Samurai X said:

" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "
Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite? "
Kalibaks low showings are more consistent, he hasnt even been a major threat to Superman or any brick for a few decades now  And he didnt just fight Miracle and Barda and lose, he flat out got owned by them "
PIS
#21 Edited by Samurai X (577 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Baldy said:

" Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 

@Samurai X

said:
" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "
Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite? "
Kalibaks low showings are more consistent, he hasnt even been a major threat to Superman or any brick for a few decades now  And he didnt just fight Miracle and Barda and lose, he flat out got owned by them "
PIS "
Amazing argument 
10 bucks say you don't even know the series I'm referring to
#22 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Barda is understandable to lose to, she's a great fighter and has been able to hold her own with Wonder Woman.

#23 Posted by Samurai X (577 posts) - - Show Bio

Barda almost got killed by the Female Furies

#24 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio
@Samurai X said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Baldy said:

" Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 

@Samurai X

said:
" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "
Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite? "
Kalibaks low showings are more consistent, he hasnt even been a major threat to Superman or any brick for a few decades now  And he didnt just fight Miracle and Barda and lose, he flat out got owned by them "
PIS "
Amazing argument  10 bucks say you don't even know the series I'm referring to "
Nope. Doesn't change the fact that it's PIS.
 
You don't go from smacking around Superman to getting owned by Barda without it being PIS.
 
Should I point out when Thor got owned by Rulk? Or when Hulk got owned by Batman?
#25 Posted by Samurai X (577 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:
" @Samurai X said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Baldy said:

" Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 

@Samurai X

said:
" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "
Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite? "
Kalibaks low showings are more consistent, he hasnt even been a major threat to Superman or any brick for a few decades now  And he didnt just fight Miracle and Barda and lose, he flat out got owned by them "
PIS "
Amazing argument  10 bucks say you don't even know the series I'm referring to "
Nope. Doesn't change the fact that it's PIS.  You don't go from smacking around Superman to getting owned by Barda without it being PIS.  Should I point out when Thor got owned by Rulk? Or when Hulk got owned by Batman? "
Sorry but until you read or at least name the comic I was referring to, then you can't call PIS no matter how bad you want it to be PIS
Kalibak hasnt smacked SUperman around in quite a while, and has been a joke for the last decade losing from everyone to Orion to Miracle to Barda and to Knockout 
 
He's a joke now, Thor would win by himself
#26 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Samurai X said:
" Barda almost got killed by the Female Furies "
Because they know how she fights, seeing as they where all on the same team and know how they work.
#27 Posted by Samurai X (577 posts) - - Show Bio
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Samurai X said:
" Barda almost got killed by the Female Furies "
Because they know how she fights, seeing as they where all on the same team and know how they work. "
I don't think she should of lost though, given the huge gap of physical stats
#28 Posted by SgtRYNO (170 posts) - - Show Bio
@thatguy: ok, tell me what i need to know about kalibak, what has he done to walk over the hulk.
#29 Posted by thatguy (1206 posts) - - Show Bio
@SgtRYNO said:
" @thatguy: ok, tell me what i need to know about kalibak, what has he done to walk over the hulk. "
Put the hurting on beings like Superman, who the Hulk has no chance in hell of beating.........300 mph = Hulk       Lightspeed = Superman
  
Kalibak could simply out brawl Hulk.
#30 Posted by SgtRYNO (170 posts) - - Show Bio
@thatguy: ok dude, the hulk has hit guys like the silver surfer who moves at lightspeed with objects hes thrown. he causes sonic booms with his hands. that means he can move extremely fast. hes punched missiles out of the air, broken the laws of physics, and he proved to be able to fight as fast as supes in the 1998 crossover. Even supes said (not the marvel dc big fight) that he was the strongest opponent hes faced, and that he was extremely fast.
#31 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@thatguy: Just curious, alot of people look at Doomsday as a DC version of Hulk and he killed Superman. How does Hulk then not stand a chance against Superman?
#32 Posted by SwaggaB0y (5262 posts) - - Show Bio
@Samurai X said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Baldy said:

" Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 

@Samurai X

said:
" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "
Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite? "
Kalibaks low showings are more consistent, he hasnt even been a major threat to Superman or any brick for a few decades now  And he didnt just fight Miracle and Barda and lose, he flat out got owned by them "
PIS "
Amazing argument  10 bucks say you don't even know the series I'm referring to "
@Samurai X said:
" @Baldy said:
" @Samurai X said:
" @Baldy said:

" @Samurai X said:

" @Baldy said:

" Kalibak will win this, he can put the smack down on Superman. 
 

@Samurai X

said:
" The team Kalibak has gotten owned by Mr Miracle and Barda "
Because Hulk and Thor havn't had low showings before amirite? "
Kalibaks low showings are more consistent, he hasnt even been a major threat to Superman or any brick for a few decades now  And he didnt just fight Miracle and Barda and lose, he flat out got owned by them "
PIS "
Amazing argument  10 bucks say you don't even know the series I'm referring to "
Nope. Doesn't change the fact that it's PIS.  You don't go from smacking around Superman to getting owned by Barda without it being PIS.  Should I point out when Thor got owned by Rulk? Or when Hulk got owned by Batman? "
Sorry but until you read or at least name the comic I was referring to, then you can't call PIS no matter how bad you want it to be PIS Kalibak hasnt smacked SUperman around in quite a while, and has been a joke for the last decade losing from everyone to Orion to Miracle to Barda and to Knockout   He's a joke now, Thor would win by himself "

Rofl owned lol
#33 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime` said:

" @thatguy: Just curious, alot of people look at Doomsday as a DC version of Hulk and he killed Superman. How does Hulk then not stand a chance against Superman? "


Hmm good question. Let's see: 
DD has more strength  by a huge margin . 
DD is faster then Flash (as said by booster gold).
He can evolve on the fly. 
He is a pure killing machine with no fealings or fear (he feals no pain).  
He can't be killed the same way twice.

#34 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xan: I understand all that, I even read those issues. So if he's this all powerful killing machine, how does he not kill Blue Beetle? He smashed him face first into a gas pipeline that exploded. I always found that odd that Blue Beetle survived that ass whooping but Superman didn't.
 
Also you can't really take what a character says in a comic at what he means... just because Doomsday is fast doesn't mean he's as fast as the Flash. Its as if a fighter jet streaks by you at mach 3 and then another one goes by you at mach 2... its fast enough you can't tell the difference, but that doesn't make them equal. Another instance of that is I believe Spidey stated The Sentry could beat Galactus... its never happened at least in any comic I've ever read... but people still take it as gospel.
#35 Posted by BatDance (2248 posts) - - Show Bio
Hulk solos in a good battle, throwing in Thor is spite. He can cook Kalibak with lightning even WITHOUT the use of his hammer 
 

 
@thatguy said:

" @SgtRYNO said:

" @thatguy: ok, tell me what i need to know about kalibak, what has he done to walk over the hulk. "
Put the hurting on beings like Superman, who the Hulk has no chance in hell of beating.........300 mph = Hulk       Lightspeed = Superman     "
 What crap
 
Luthor hits Superman, Batman hits Superman 
 
DO THESE STREET LEVELERS OPERATE AT LIGHT SPEED ???

 
Before you answer

(remmeber we are trying our best to stack the deck in DC's favor)
#36 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
@BatDance said:
"Hulk solos in a good battle, throwing in Thor is spite. He can cook Kalibak with lightning even WITHOUT the use of his hammer  
 

 You have obviously not seen the full range of Kalibak's durability then. 
Kalibak has withstood atomic blaster cannons and even the Astro Force (admittedly the last KOed him).
#37 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

I just thought of something. Does Kalibak get his Beta club? If so he has an advantage of having a ranged attack and the ability to inflict enormous pain.

#38 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
"I just thought of something. Does Kalibak get his Beta club? If so he has an advantage of having a ranged attack and the ability to inflict enormous pain. "

Well in the pictures shown for the combatants, Kalibak has his club and Thor is without his hammer........... 
The Beta clubs power is sufficient to make even Orion writhe in agony, at least for a short period. 
The force beams it projects can blow apart a New Genisis armoured attack ship. 
And finally using the club in melee enables Kalibak to hit a lot harder (it is almost indestructible after all).
#39 Edited by BatDance (2248 posts) - - Show Bio
@the creator said:

"  You have obviously not seen the full range of Kalibak's durability then. Kalibak has withstood atomic blaster cannons and even the Astro Force (admittedly the last KOed him). "

Wow I was really waiting for Mr uppity creator to make an appearance and tell me Thor and Hulk have no durability feats at all. I mean really  why do you have this snobbishly holier than thou attitude when it comes to DC characters you only seem to vote for a Marvel battle when Captain Britain or someone is in the thread.
Please don't bother replying to my posts anymore, I can't be bothered dealing with your up-nosed snobbery anymore. Only the old school DC fanatics take you serious most people on the vine see your posts as a joke and completely biased.

 
 @AtPhantom said:

" I just thought of something. Does Kalibak get his Beta club? If so he has an advantage of having a ranged attack and the ability to inflict enormous pain. "

 Why not its King's thread so we are after all trying to stack the deck in DC's favor and we will convinetly ignore that Thor can cook Kalibak with lightning even WITHOUT the use of his hammer   
#40 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23245 posts) - - Show Bio
@BatDance said:
" @the creator said:

"  You have obviously not seen the full range of Kalibak's durability then. Kalibak has withstood atomic blaster cannons and even the Astro Force (admittedly the last KOed him). "

Wow I was really waiting for Mr uppity creator to make an appearance and tell me Thor and Hulk have no durability feats at all. I mean really  why do you have this snobbishly holier than thou attitude when it comes to DC characters you only seem to vote for a Marvel battle when Captain Britain or someone is in the thread.
Please don't bother replying to my posts anymore, I can't be bothered dealing with your up-nosed snobbery anymore. Only the old school DC fanatics take you serious most people on the vine see your posts as a joke and completely biased.

 
 @AtPhantom said:

" I just thought of something. Does Kalibak get his Beta club? If so he has an advantage of having a ranged attack and the ability to inflict enormous pain. "

 Why not its King's thread so we are after all trying to stack the deck in DC's favor and we will convinetly ignore that Thor can cook Kalibak with lightning even WITHOUT the use of his hammer    "
Did you just use the term uppity to describe someone? You do realize how much of a douche bag that makes you, right? And the fact that you're trying to speak for "most people on the vine" makes you the biggest joke on here, seeing as how next to no one shares your point of view in regards to The Creator. Don't feel bad because you're not as good, and don't take your misplaced rage out on others simply because the characters you like don't come out on top.
#41 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
@BatDance said:
"@the creator said:

"  You have obviously not seen the full range of Kalibak's durability then. Kalibak has withstood atomic blaster cannons and even the Astro Force (admittedly the last KOed him). "

Wow I was really waiting for Mr uppity creator to make an appearance and tell me Thor and Hulk have no durability feats at all. I mean really  why do you have this snobbishly holier than thou attitude when it comes to DC characters you only seem to vote for a Marvel battle when Captain Britain or someone is in the thread.
Please don't bother replying to my posts anymore, I can't be bothered dealing with your up-nosed snobbery anymore. Only the old school DC fanatics take you serious most people on the vine see your posts as a joke and completely biased.
"

Where's all the hostility coming from ? 
Take a chill pill and try to find some actual comics that display the range of the combatants abilities so you can make an informed argument. 
 
Please point out to me where I down played Hulk or Thors durability......... 
 
If you actually bothered to look through my postings you see what you said about DC characters and Marvel postings to be either an assumption or a lie on your part. 
Again do a little background reading to make an informed argument. 
 
Sorry most about 99% of the people on this site know I'm not biased. 
I just happen to read around to make an informed decision. 
 
I try not to reply to your postings because you take it this way - as an attack when  there wasn't one. 
It was simply an observation. 
 
Try be nice for a change as it is the holiday season : )
#42 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @BatDance said:
" @the creator said:

"  You have obviously not seen the full range of Kalibak's durability then. Kalibak has withstood atomic blaster cannons and even the Astro Force (admittedly the last KOed him). "

Wow I was really waiting for Mr uppity creator to make an appearance and tell me Thor and Hulk have no durability feats at all. I mean really  why do you have this snobbishly holier than thou attitude when it comes to DC characters you only seem to vote for a Marvel battle when Captain Britain or someone is in the thread.
Please don't bother replying to my posts anymore, I can't be bothered dealing with your up-nosed snobbery anymore. Only the old school DC fanatics take you serious most people on the vine see your posts as a joke and completely biased.

 
 @AtPhantom said:

" I just thought of something. Does Kalibak get his Beta club? If so he has an advantage of having a ranged attack and the ability to inflict enormous pain. "

 Why not its King's thread so we are after all trying to stack the deck in DC's favor and we will convinetly ignore that Thor can cook Kalibak with lightning even WITHOUT the use of his hammer    "
Did you just use the term uppity to describe someone? You do realize how much of a douche bag that makes you, right? And the fact that you're trying to speak for "most people on the vine" makes you the biggest joke on here, seeing as how next to no one shares your point of view in regards to The Creator. Don't feel bad because you're not as good, and don't take your misplaced rage out on others simply because the characters you like don't come out on top. "

LMFAO
#43 Posted by King Saturn (224218 posts) - - Show Bio
I dont know how I forgot about this battle... I was looking for it and couldnt find it a few days ago...
#44 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

Team one should be able to take out Kalibak, he's no where near Darkseids level right? From what I remember about a few issues and the cartoon series anyway.

#45 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
@MKF30 said:
"

Team one should be able to take out Kalibak, he's no where near Darkseids level right? From what I remember about a few issues and the cartoon series anyway.

"

Kalibak is similar to Orion in physical strength and Orion is close to Darkseid. 
The cartoons are not cannon and don't really show the true powerhouse and absolute beast Kalibak is.
#46 Posted by why so serious (1388 posts) - - Show Bio
@SgtRYNO said:
" @thatguy: ok dude, the hulk has hit guys like the silver surfer who moves at lightspeed with objects hes thrown. he causes sonic booms with his hands. that means he can move extremely fast. hes punched missiles out of the air, broken the laws of physics, and he proved to be able to fight as fast as supes in the 1998 crossover. Even supes said (not the marvel dc big fight) that he was the strongest opponent hes faced, and that he was extremely fast. "
i agree.   kalibak is tough but thor and hulk together are just too much for him, even though green hulk isn't the strongest version of hulk
#47 Posted by Torpor (275 posts) - - Show Bio

   Batman stopped Kalibak's punch and was making sport of him.  Superman said that Kalibak can't even beat Batman.
 

 

 
  I think people are overestimating Kalibak here.
#48 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

i think ppl are underestimating kalibak here due to the cartoons
#49 Posted by Torpor (275 posts) - - Show Bio
@capall said:
" i think ppl are underestimating kalibak here due to the cartoons "
I'm not, the guy is not the sharpest tool in the shed and jobs constantly.  Cartoon or not he is going down easily to either one of the team members.  Taking on Thor and Hulk at the same time is out of the question.
#50 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio
@Torpor said:
" @capall said:
" i think ppl are underestimating kalibak here due to the cartoons "
I'm not, the guy is not the sharpest tool in the shed and jobs constantly.  Cartoon or not he is going down easily to either one of the team members.  Taking on Thor and Hulk at the same time is out of the question. "

why is it out of the question when thor's greatest tool has been taken away by the op?  kalibak does have greater physical attributes (strength, speed, reflexes, agility) not to mention he's been a trained warrior just like thor and hulk and has battled with dc bricks plenty of times