Thor and Silver Surfer VS Despero and Lobo
-First Round, they're in character.
-Second Round, they're bloodlusted(for both, Lobo has his chopper).
-They start 500 feet apart on a barren, indestructible planet.
-Win is by K.O./death/incapacitation.
@Almighty_Darkseid said:
________ solos, effortless curbstomp
Almighty_Darkseid solo stomps another thread.
I think team one will eventually win, but it is definitely not a stomp. This is going to be a tough fight.
Despero: Reborn himself transmuted Gotham City into a Hellish-looking place, and turned buildings into monsters and stuff. I don't think transmutation is your best bet against him.
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Thor BFRs Lobo.
Surfer transforms Despero into bacon.
How exactly will Surfer turn him into bacon? I could make the same argument with Despero turning Surfer into bacon, but I doubt that would happen, as well.
Round One: Team 2 stomps.
Round Two: It could go either way. Can't say I know who wins.
@blackadamFTW said:
How exactly will Surfer turn him into bacon? I could make the same argument with Despero turning Surfer into bacon, but I doubt that would happen, as well.
Surfer is a planetary matter manipulator.
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@blackadamFTW said:
How exactly will Surfer turn him into bacon? I could make the same argument with Despero turning Surfer into bacon, but I doubt that would happen, as well.
Surfer is a planetary matter manipulator.
Despero is a pretty powerful matter manipulator himself.
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Thor BFRs Lobo.
Surfer transforms Despero into bacon.
Lol @ Thor BFRing Lobo.
Dats funneh
People actually think Thor could BFR lobo?
@bluepride1234: Fairly easily, yes.
Thor is more than fast enough to grab Lobo and throw him into orbit, before Lobo can retaliate. While Lobo is both strong and durable(if nothing else then due to his regen.) enough to go toe to toe with Thor in a brawl, Lobo has never really shown himself to be a speedster of any kind.
Once Lobo is floating around in orbit, Thor has plenty of time to open a portal that he can punt Lobo through.
@bluepride1234 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Thor BFRs Lobo.
Surfer transforms Despero into bacon.
Lol @ Thor BFRing Lobo.
Dats funneh
People actually think Thor could BFR lobo?
Another Thor hating troll? Perfect -___-
@blackadamFTW said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@blackadamFTW said:
How exactly will Surfer turn him into bacon? I could make the same argument with Despero turning Surfer into bacon, but I doubt that would happen, as well.
Surfer is a planetary matter manipulator.
Despero is a pretty powerful matter manipulator himself.
But Surfer is also far more faster.
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@blackadamFTW said:
How exactly will Surfer turn him into bacon? I could make the same argument with Despero turning Surfer into bacon, but I doubt that would happen, as well.
Surfer is a planetary matter manipulator.
I believe he once had the power to control matter,energy and warp reality but I don't think he can do it anymore.
@CrimsonCake said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@blackadamFTW said:
How exactly will Surfer turn him into bacon? I could make the same argument with Despero turning Surfer into bacon, but I doubt that would happen, as well.
Surfer is a planetary matter manipulator.
I believe he once had the power to control matter,energy and warp reality but I don't think he can do it anymore.
He sure can. Why wouldn't he still have them?
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@bluepride1234 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Thor BFRs Lobo.
Surfer transforms Despero into bacon.
Lol @ Thor BFRing Lobo.
Dats funneh
People actually think Thor could BFR lobo?
Another Thor hating troll? Perfect -___-
Another thor loving troll that calls people thor hating trolls? Perfect -____-
If you read the thread, there is no bfr. Regardless, Thor can not BFR lobo :)
@SirMethos said:
@bluepride1234: Fairly easily, yes.
Thor is more than fast enough to grab Lobo and throw him into orbit, before Lobo can retaliate. While Lobo is both strong and durable(if nothing else then due to his regen.) enough to go toe to toe with Thor in a brawl, Lobo has never really shown himself to be a speedster of any kind.
Once Lobo is floating around in orbit, Thor has plenty of time to open a portal that he can punt Lobo through.
Lobo gets his bike and gets back onto Earth.
He is not shown as a speedster, but BFR is not the one excuse people can use to defeat Lobo.
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
@YoggSaron: Depends on the writer (of course) and how drunk he is.
He definitely has superspeed, but to what degree is debatable. Speed is hard to depict in sequential art.
His bike is many times faster than light, and I realize travel speed isn't necessarily the same as combat reflexes, but he's dodged a barrage of missiles while flying at near lightspeed, he's scrapped Manga Khan's battlebots in the space between 2 panels, he blitzed Eradicated Superman unless the DC 1st is a retcon (I don't think it is). He reacted faster than Deadman could think. In Omega Men he displayed afterimage speed and speed similar to Jason (from Friday the 13th). He's caught 3 bullets with his teeth. He's never had a problem with Valor's superspeed, or J'Onn's, or Captain Marvel's, but I realize that's a shaky argument. For what it's worth, he will dodge a speedster while fat and out of shape for 1000 years.
Armageddon: Inferno and the DC Encyclopedia both reference superspeed for him.
And before someone mentions the time Eclipso'd Superman blitzed him, there is evidence that Eclipso can power up those he possesses.
No BFR from Thor going on.
Morals On: Team 2 might take this, Thor will be the weak link I think. He'll try and take Lobo on head on like he does Hulk on occasion. Though it'll be a tough fight, I think many people are taking Silver Surfer's cosmic awareness too lightly. But again, even with it I don't think Team 2 could necessarily take this. I'm going Team 1 7/10.
Bloodlusted: I'm inclined to say Team 1. I'm thinking Silver Surfer and Thor not holding back might be a force to be reckoned with. They'll probably have to take turns keeping Lobo busy and using massive energy blasts to blow him apart (they have to take turns because he WILL regenerate from a drop of blood), but I think if they can get Despero down (Silver Surfer's cosmic awareness should help them understand what to avoid and when to attack, something the JLA was not blessed with), then Lobo will be a walk in the park. Again, it won't be a stomp, it'd be 5.5 out of 10 or 6 out of 10 if they can take the majority.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@bluepride1234 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@bluepride1234 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Thor BFRs Lobo.
Surfer transforms Despero into bacon.
Lol @ Thor BFRing Lobo.
Dats funneh
People actually think Thor could BFR lobo?
Another Thor hating troll? Perfect -___-
Another thor loving troll that calls people thor hating trolls? Perfect -____-
If you read the thread, there is no bfr. Regardless, Thor can not BFR lobo :)
Imitation will get you no where.
How exactly is Thor not able to teleport Lobo, since you're such an expert?
@SirMethos said:
@bluepride1234: Fairly easily, yes.
Thor is more than fast enough to grab Lobo and throw him into orbit, before Lobo can retaliate. While Lobo is both strong and durable(if nothing else then due to his regen.) enough to go toe to toe with Thor in a brawl, Lobo has never really shown himself to be a speedster of any kind.
Once Lobo is floating around in orbit, Thor has plenty of time to open a portal that he can punt Lobo through.
Lobo has blitzed Superman so he couldn't react and you think Thor is faster???
I'm a Thor fan, but COME ON.
Thor could BFR Lobo with the use of Mjilnor, but he rarely does that in character.
He's only likely to do that if he believes an enemy physically Superior, otherwise he's fight it out with them as a point of honor.
@ThatThorFan said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Thor BFRs Lobo.
Surfer transforms Despero into bacon.
Can I ask all these people who Say SS transforms Despero into anything, how they think he's going to do that to a superior matter manipulator. If this was Despero without the Flame of Py'tar there might be a chance of that. As i've asked teh question and OP says he has it than he's above SS in energy and Matter manip. He likely matches him in TP TK etc (though he has controlled possessed powerful TPers before).
I'd say team 2 wins round one because in character Thor fights with honor and a warriors pride. Round 2 goes to team 1 as he'll bring the full power of Mjilnor to bear and that will tip the odds their way.
1st fight team 1 in a close battle,2nd fight with thor bloodlusted and A SILVER SURFER BLOODLUSTED is gonna be a bad day for dc guys. he will solo.
@Spartan101 said:
1st fight team 1 in a close battle,2nd fight with thor bloodlusted and A SILVER SURFER BLOODLUSTED is gonna be a bad day for dc guys. he will solo.
There is NO way that Surfer can solo a team that includes Despero (especially with the Flame of Py'tar) Despero is stronger than Superman and has soled Superman, Captain marvel, Wonderwoman and Powergirl simultaneously in physical battle. he is a powerful psionic who has mind raped some of the most powerful TPers in DC. He can destroy minds with his mind fire. He can tank Superman's best blows and regenerates even from decapitation. Finally with the Flame of Py'tar he is an energy and matter maipulator of high order and a low level reality warper.He made buildings turn into dragons to fight for him. Remember this is a guy who regularly solos Superman, Green Lantern, Martian manhunter, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, etc.
@beatboks1: a bloodlusted silver surfer using ALL his power cosmic would solo both,surfer holds back 99% time,he is a peacemaker by nature,if he gos bloodlusted and throws all his powers out at those 2 its over. his TP abilites are as good as desperos and with all the other tricks as his command the 2 are out gunned.
@Spartan101 said:
@beatboks1: a bloodlusted silver surfer using ALL his power cosmic would solo both,surfer holds back 99% time,he is a peacemaker by nature,if he gos bloodlusted and throws all his powers out at those 2 its over. his TP abilites are as good as desperos and with all the other tricks as his command the 2 are out gunned.
How exactly would Surfer go about resisting Despero's possession?
@blackadamFTW: SS would just rip him apart on the astral plain, SS their would be more powerful than despero. i think people forget how much ss holds back,a bloodlusted ss is a complete nightmare and would give a good fight to a skyfather level being.
@Spartan101 said:
@blackadamFTW: SS would just rip him apart on the astral plain, SS their would be more powerful than despero. i think people forget how much ss holds back,a bloodlusted ss is a complete nightmare and would give a good fight to a skyfather level being.
You didn't answer my question.
I'd be surprised if Despero possessed the Surfer, the Power Cosmic lets him fight people off essentially reality warping him / his mind. As well as make himself into a powerhouse when on the Astral Plane.
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