VS
Captain Cold, Top, Gorilla Grodd, Doctor Alchemy, Mirror Master (McCullough), and Weather Wizard
-Random encounter
-Win by any means
VS
Captain Cold, Top, Gorilla Grodd, Doctor Alchemy, Mirror Master (McCullough), and Weather Wizard
-Random encounter
-Win by any means
@realitywarper: They could win but in no way a stomp.
This is getting kinda crazy. O.O
Mirror Master would be a big threat (if Sentry's feeling really cocky, Len might take him out of the fight too). However, can't Sentry resist/counter transmutation if Evan hits him with that?
@realitywarper: They could win but in no way a stomp.
Durability feats for team 2 ?
@realitywarper: Most of them have no traditional durability. They instead specialize on not getting tagged. Top is too fast (though may eventually get killed). Cold puts up a field of air that exists at Absolute Zero, stopping movement completely without the aid of the Speed Force. Weather Wizard is in some way connected to the weather, wherein it will protect him if he's threatened (not a huge help here, imo). And Mirror Master can fight from the comfort of a dimension that nobody else can enter or leave unless he says so. Grodd has his TP of course, his physical resistance outside of that is always fluctuating depending on the writer, to be honest.
And Alchemy's pretty much all offensive.
@realitywarper: Most of them have no traditional durability. They instead specialize on not getting tagged. Top is too fast (though may eventually get killed). Cold puts up a field of air that exists at Absolute Zero, stopping movement completely without the aid of the Speed Force. Weather Wizard is in some way connected to the weather, wherein it will protect him if he's threatened (not a huge help here, imo). And Mirror Master can fight from the comfort of a dimension that nobody else can enter or leave unless he says so. Grodd has his TP of course, his physical resistance outside of that is always fluctuating depending on the writer, to be honest.
And Alchemy's pretty much all offensive.
I don't see much a threat in them, I mean they are more a mix between spiderman villains and the xmens if we extremely vulgarize them.
I don't think they can be treath against guys like Thor, Sentry, Superman, Hulk, WW, MM...
Evan could probably do this on his own..mirror versions of Thor and Sentry alone would challenge them greatly. Sentry can be BFRed as well..so there's that.
Hell..if Doc gets a chance to turn their blood into acid he could at least take out Thor. Sentry could probably recover from that but the team has so many options I don't see how they lose.
@realitywarper: Which is why I said I don't think any of them can pull it off except Mirror Master (if Sentry can't defend against the Mirror Realm's powers). However, Evan can also port his entire team in there if he really wants to. Then make a ton of clones out of each of them, as well as clones of Thor and Sentry too.
Additionally, Wally is much faster than Spidey or any X-Man. It may seem odd when the Rogues can hold their own against him, but they've put in a lot of time and thought to figure out ways to do it. Against a less forgiving hero and without their morals, I always assume they'd have been killed before they became as formidable as they are.
@realitywarper: Which is why I said I don't think any of them can pull it off except Mirror Master (if Sentry can't defend against the Mirror Realm's powers). However, Evan can also port his entire team in there if he really wants to. Then make a ton of clones out of each of them, as well as clones of Thor and Sentry too.
Additionally, Wally is much faster than Spidey or any X-Man. It may seem odd when the Rogues can hold their own against him, but they've put in a lot of time and thought to figure out ways to do it. Against a less forgiving hero and without their morals, I always assume they'd have been killed before they became as formidable as they are.
What can the clones do ?
@realitywarper: The image upload button doesn't show up on my Nook, but here's a link to a respect thread that TTBA made. It covers Evan pretty extensively in his section:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/the-rogues-respect-thread-1574370/
@mightyrearranger: He has very interesting abilities but it is not enough to handle Sentry and Thor I am afraid.
Could superman or Flash beat this team?? if the answer is yes then thor and sentry are to much but if not then obviously its no.... I don't know enough about the rouges to give a guess but that is two power houses on the marvel side going against b level villians with the exception of mirror master that is...
@realitywarper: I'm inclined to agree with you. Sentry is the terrifying one given what I've seen/heard he's capable of on a molecular level or whatever. I'd think Evan could destroy or incap Thor before he figures out his tricks. Then again the guy fights Loki, who tends to do magical versions of what Mirror Master does.
The only thing he has going for him is mirror-cloning his opponents like he did to The Flash.
Like I said, the Rogues battle ideas have gotten kinda bonkers lately, haha.
@realitywarper: I'm inclined to agree with you. Sentry is the terrifying one given what I've seen/heard he's capable of on a molecular level or whatever. I'd think Evan could destroy or incap Thor before he figures out his tricks. Then again the guy fights Loki, who tends to do magical versions of what Mirror Master does.
The only thing he has going for him is mirror-cloning his opponents like he did to The Flash.
Like I said, the Rogues battle ideas have gotten kinda bonkers lately, haha.
Agreed :)
Thor or Sentry solos
NO.
if Thor and Sentry are fast enough don't some of the rouges get one shotted. If Captain cold doesn't flash freeze than team 1
@trionace: Cold Field stops lightning no problem. Mirror Verse BFR stops Mjolnir. The Rogues are used to fighting a guy who is much much faster than lightspeed. Captain Cold has gotten a shot off on Zoom and he is faster than lightning and Mjolnir combined. They may not have the physical speed stats but Rogues are the quickest draws in comics, Cold especially.
Sentry is the only challenge here, Thor is a non-issue. Alchemy, Cold, and Mirror Master will have to work together to take him down.
It is a lucky thing that the OP gave Thor and Bob a break and didn't include Pied Piper.
@jmarshmallow: Yes, say it!
@jmarshmallow: Yes, say it!
You know, I was....
But now, just to rustle you up a bit, I'm gonna side with Thor and Sentry.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: Why? You evil, evil person.
@jmarshmallow: Why? You evil, evil person.
Mirror Master is the biggest threat, but he'll go down. Oh yes, he'll go down.
Jmarshmallow
Thor or Sentry solos
NO.
yes, or tell me why not
@jmarshmallow: THEY ALL GET BFR'ED!!!!!!!!!!!!! 'NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!! ALSO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET THROUGH THE COL FIELD, ALL ATOMS FREEZE SO HE CAN'T!!!!!!!!
@johnfrank120: Good luck BFRing Thor who can just teleport himself back! And Sentry controls his own molecules, so he CANT be BFR'd!
And how are they gonna get through the Cold Field?!?
Who needs to get through it when Thor can just go all "FOR ASGARD" and spam lightning like it's nobodies business! And while he's doing that, Sentry is all like "Yo, I'm gonna control your molecules and stuff!"
And then Bam, everyone is dead.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: They can't get out! Alchemy also manipulates molecules! And good luck to Sentry getting out when the mirror dimension IS DESTROYED!!!!!!!!!!!!
@dedmanwalkin: ahh ok I see....my thing is....does Flash casually go lightspeed against the Rogues at all? Or merely holds back? I see mjolnir being a problem because Thor can open portals and BFR etc....lets not forget his abundance of abilities that make him a big threat here.
@mjolnirson: How does Thor get past Cold's cold field?
@realitywarper: I'm inclined to agree with you. Sentry is the terrifying one given what I've seen/heard he's capable of on a molecular level or whatever. I'd think Evan could destroy or incap Thor before he figures out his tricks. Then again the guy fights Loki, who tends to do magical versions of what Mirror Master does.
The only thing he has going for him is mirror-cloning his opponents like he did to The Flash.
Like I said, the Rogues battle ideas have gotten kinda bonkers lately, haha.
Agreed :)
And here I thought you knew the Rogues, Rearranger.
Mirror Master really should have no problem porting them into a pocket dimension and destroying it, I mean, why not? Bob has no feats to suggest he can escape the light, and so what if Thor can port them out of the mirror dimension? Thor won't even know he's changed dimensions, it's fooled Wally, Jay and Bart before, all Speedsters who have extensive experience with McCulloch.
Hell, if he wanted to be mean he could just put them in his mirror dimension where time moves backwards, they'll even forget they were in a fight and they can just live out the rest of their days locked in that entropy until they blink out of existence.
There is virtually no way Mirror Master doesn't solo. The other Rogues go get a beer.
@nickthedevil: Sentry can rip his head off with speed blitz.
No-one's speed blitzing these guys for real.
Let me say this. Kudos to the OP for a battle in which is really hard to tell which weights more, raw power or versatility and creativity with powers.
Sure Thor and Sentry are among the most powerful Marvel superheroes, but truth be told, Mirror Master is one of the most creative and OP villains ever created in my opinion.
No-one's speed blitzing these guys for real.
Let me say this. Kudos to the OP for a battle in which is really hard to tell which weights more, raw power or versatility and creativity with powers.
Sure Thor and Sentry are among the most powerful Marvel superheroes, but truth be told, Mirror Master is one of the most creative and OP villains ever created in my opinion.
Why not? Cold and Mirror Master don't have super speed.
@nickthedevil: Sentry can rip his head off with speed blitz.
How does he? He's not faster than Flash. And before you post a rebuttal about how he holds back, it's still faster than Sentry. Mirror Master has better reflexes than that, and it's a casual afternoon for him. That's a ludicrous statement.
@realitywarper: I'm inclined to agree with you. Sentry is the terrifying one given what I've seen/heard he's capable of on a molecular level or whatever. I'd think Evan could destroy or incap Thor before he figures out his tricks. Then again the guy fights Loki, who tends to do magical versions of what Mirror Master does.
The only thing he has going for him is mirror-cloning his opponents like he did to The Flash.
Like I said, the Rogues battle ideas have gotten kinda bonkers lately, haha.
Agreed :)
And here I thought you knew the Rogues, Rearranger.
Mirror Master really should have no problem porting them into a pocket dimension and destroying it, I mean, why not? Bob has no feats to suggest he can escape the light, and so what if Thor can port them out of the mirror dimension? Thor won't even know he's changed dimensions, it's fooled Wally, Jay and Bart before, all Speedsters who have extensive experience with McCulloch.
Hell, if he wanted to be mean he could just put them in his mirror dimension where time moves backwards, they'll even forget they were in a fight and they can just live out the rest of their days locked in that entropy until they blink out of existence.
There is virtually no way Mirror Master doesn't solo. The other Rogues go get a beer.
Bob control the light.
He can turn him and Thor invisible so that means no reflexion.
So that means Mirror Master is powerless.
Bob control the light.
He can turn him and Thor invisible so that means no reflexion.
So that means Mirror Master is powerless.
You made this so easy on me, I don't even have to reply.
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