#1 Posted by King Saturn (224753 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins this 2 vs 2 all out battle ?

#2 Posted by White Phantom (1760 posts) - - Show Bio

I think team 2, and I have reasons. When I did Captain Marvel vs Thor, it was pretty much a tie but as I recall more people with better arguments were voting for Cap. And since Black Adam is pretty much equal to Cap, he should be able to at least hold his own against Thor. Now Alan vs Loki. It's a close fight but I think Alan's power to create anything or any effect would win out. He could create a pile of treasure to distract Loki and then blast him senseless. Then Alan goes to help Black Adam beat Thor, so Team 2.

#3 Posted by King Saturn (224753 posts) - - Show Bio

White Phantom says:

"I think team 2, and I have reasons. When I did Captain Marvel vs Thor, it was pretty much a tie but as I recall more people with better arguments were voting for Cap. And since Black Adam is pretty much equal to Cap, he should be able to at least hold his own against Thor. Now Alan vs Loki. It's a close fight but I think Alan's power to create anything or any effect would win out. He could create a pile of treasure to distract Loki and then blast him senseless. Then Alan goes to help Black Adam beat Thor, so Team 2."

Great Points. I think Team 2 could win as well. But it wont be easy

#4 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8695 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2 but it be hard loki gonna try some sneaky magic stuff and thor kinda tough

#5 Posted by Joygirl (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow.

Old thread is OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD.

Also Team Teth-Alan FTW.

#6 Posted by dondave (38790 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#7 Posted by kidman560 (7578 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: very old like 5 years and 6 months old

@oceanmaster21: i have to give it to team one because of Loki! in theory because of the way this thread is played out Loki is the bigger threat here. his potential for magic usage here is endless and he should be able to hand with Black Adam (also Loki matter manipulates odin's father Borr into snow, why cant he do the same to BA or Alan Scott?"

#8 Posted by batmannflash (6226 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

#9 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8695 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmannflash: which issues were those pics in that you just posted well i reconize the knew ba pic but what about the alan scott pi

#10 Posted by batmannflash (6226 posts) - - Show Bio

@oceanmaster21: The Alan Scott pic is the from the current Earth-2 series. Don't remember which issue, though it's somewhere in there.

Thanks for the follow, btw!

#11 Posted by patrat18 (10676 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

#12 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8695 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by ComicStooge (13744 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki can take Adam, but Alan is just too much.

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#14 Posted by DarkRaiden (8002 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1, Loki's magic is very powerful and has been compared to Dormammu's, and being above Strange's. He's also one of the few people Doom doesn't mess with and doesn't know if he can beat. Thor can cancel magic, taking out both members as well, and he can easily absorb it and does so when he faces an energy projection specialist. Team 1 should win comfortably, if not in a stomp. Unless Loki's messing with Thor as usual.

#15 Posted by KingAres109 (1289 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 in a stomp!!

#16 Posted by Joygirl (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkraiden: Nth Metal cancels magic too. Y'know who doesn't care? Black Adam.

#17 Posted by Joygirl (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Why are you insinuating that Alan > Adam? Teth calmly stomped the entire JSA which included Alan Scott, within three pages. Not bloodlusted -- calmly, calmly enough that he carefully pried off Hawkgirl's wings so as to neutralize her without hurting her.

#18 Posted by TheMagicStik (1969 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Adam might be able to beat Loki and Thor by himself, his Magic is at least equivilent to Loki's and his physical strength would be enough to tear Thor in two.

#19 Edited by ComicStooge (13744 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@comicstooge: Why are you insinuating that Alan > Adam? Teth calmly stomped the entire JSA which included Alan Scott, within three pages. Not bloodlusted -- calmly, calmly enough that he carefully pried off Hawkgirl's wings so as to neutralize her without hurting her.

Alan jobs occasionally, as do all characters.

Realistically, a non-jobbing, serious Alan Scott would defeat Adam.

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#20 Posted by Joygirl (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Despite the fact that he never has and has lost to Adam like three times, usually in stomps.

#21 Posted by ComicStooge (13744 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@comicstooge: Despite the fact that he never has and has lost to Adam like three times, usually in stomps.

He really shouldn't. It's probably the World War 3 effect, giving other characters low showing to show how 'awesome' and 'badass' Black Adam is.

Black Adam is Superman level at best. Alan when written correctly is above that level, even with morals on.

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#22 Posted by MarlboroMan (1755 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: yup, i would rather go with walks not the talks

#23 Posted by Joygirl (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: The time I'm talking about wasn't part of WW3, just normal JSA, and he took down Alan, Jay, Hourman, Power Girl, Wildcat, Dr. Mid-Nite, Mr. Terrific, Hawkman, and Hawkgirl down simultaneously while trying to be easy on them. Maybe, just maybe, instead of everyone jobbing to him, he jobs to Superman. We already know he jobs to Billy, it's obvious since he usually accidentally beats himself in their encounters.

#24 Posted by Hyperlight (6329 posts) - - Show Bio

i see team 2 winning without prep. loki with a lil prep can take either teth or alan.

#25 Posted by ComicStooge (13744 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@comicstooge: The time I'm talking about wasn't part of WW3, just normal JSA, and he took down Alan, Jay, Hourman, Power Girl, Wildcat, Dr. Mid-Nite, Mr. Terrific, Hawkman, and Hawkgirl down simultaneously while trying to be easy on them. Maybe, just maybe, instead of everyone jobbing to him, he jobs to Superman. We already know he jobs to Billy, it's obvious since he usually accidentally beats himself in their encounters.

Jay alone should have beaten him, so something certainly seems fishy about that writing.

Black Adam does not job to Superman at all. Writers have to forget about Superman's much greater speed in order to have them go against each other evenly.

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#26 Edited by Joygirl (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Why would Jay beat him when he's gone toe-to-toe with Jay and kept up? When not thunderclapping him? He isn't able to RUN quite as fast as Jay but we've seen on a few occasions that his combat speed is comparable (maybe slightly less). Characters' power levels change sometimes. It's pretty clear that the Black Adam from JSA through 52 through the Dark Age was significantly more powerful than back when he was just a Cap. Marvel villain. Also, why is Superman so much faster when Adam was able to spin him around during a full charge?

#27 Posted by Joygirl (20146 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Ugh, I need to sleep. If you want, remind me tomorrow and I'll scan-dump and show you that Black Adam isn't as feeble as you seem to believe he is.

#28 Posted by ComicStooge (13744 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@comicstooge: Why would Jay beat him when he's gone toe-to-toe with Jay and kept up? When not thunderclapping him? He isn't able to RUN quite as fast as Jay but we've seen on a few occasions that his combat speed is comparable (maybe slightly less). Characters' power levels change sometimes. It's pretty clear that the Black Adam from JSA through 52 through the Dark Age was significantly more powerful than back when he was just a Cap. Marvel villain. Also, why is Superman so much faster when Adam was able to spin him around during a full charge?

Because Jay WAS beating him during one of their fights. Adam had to use a thunderclap in order to put civilians in danger so he could fly away.

Adam was able to spin him around because was a low showing for Clark. He's outraced lasers multiple times. A guy moving at Mach 500 would be no issue. Superman didn't even use high-speed punches, nerve strikes etc.

Basically, Supes has to be written like a moron so Adam can stand a chance against him.

Anyway, we've gone way off topic here.

I already agreed Black Adam and Alan Scott would win.

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#29 Posted by ComicStooge (13744 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@comicstooge: Ugh, I need to sleep. If you want, remind me tomorrow and I'll scan-dump and show you that Black Adam isn't as feeble as you seem to believe he is.

He's not feeble at all. There's no shame in not quite being on the level of Jay Garrick, Superman etc. .

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#30 Posted by XiiX (9132 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by brainstorm01 (1465 posts) - - Show Bio

team one ftw

#32 Edited by JudgeNeptune (224 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2, BA is a beast... and to my knowledge, Alan Scott is even more powerful, he is above Superman.

#33 Posted by DarkRaiden (8002 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@darkraiden: Nth Metal cancels magic too. Y'know who doesn't care? Black Adam.

Yeah ok, but this isn't PIS this is an actual fight. Also, even without canceling Magic Thor can handily take Black Adam, even if he just slugs it out and uses none of his obscure, random Mjolnir powers. He probably wouldn't even need lightning, but we know he'd use it. The canceling magic matters on Alan Scott, as he's far more powerful than Black Adam IIRC, though ultimately useless due to Mjolnir's energy absorption and magic cancellation.

#34 Posted by ShazamFan666 (432 posts) - - Show Bio

The brothers lose.