I would like to know exactly how far spread and grand Mysterio's illusions can be without prior set-up.
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" @Lunacyde said:" @Nobody: Doc Ock is out quickly here IMO. It really shouldn't be that hard for the numbers to overwhelm him and shoot him. A few pumpkin bombs and Shocker could be in trouble as well. "Shockers blasts are wide range and keep growing in size the longer he fires. A pumpkin bomb couldn't even reach him, if he held his blast going. Dock Ock's arms react quickly and could knock people out from around corners before he even goes around them, so he would be safe. "
However people can still open fire on him with machine guns, and I believe in his current armor, he'd only be able to take a few burst shots. When he was shot in the back by Scourge with a sniper rifle, he questioned the strength remaining in his suit and feared he wouldn't be able to take another shot, so he fled for cover.
" @Nobody said:Yeah, but that is from a Sniper Rifle and from someone who isn't cannon fodder." @Lunacyde said:However people can still open fire on him with machine guns, and I believe in his current armor, he'd only be able to take a few burst shots. When he was shot in the back by Scourge with a sniper rifle, he questioned the strength remaining in his suit and feared he wouldn't be able to take another shot, so he fled for cover. "" @Nobody: Doc Ock is out quickly here IMO. It really shouldn't be that hard for the numbers to overwhelm him and shoot him. A few pumpkin bombs and Shocker could be in trouble as well. "Shockers blasts are wide range and keep growing in size the longer he fires. A pumpkin bomb couldn't even reach him, if he held his blast going. Dock Ock's arms react quickly and could knock people out from around corners before he even goes around them, so he would be safe. "
" @k4tzm4n said:" @Nobody said:Yeah, but that is from a Sniper Rifle and from someone who isn't cannon fodder. "" @Lunacyde said:However people can still open fire on him with machine guns, and I believe in his current armor, he'd only be able to take a few burst shots. When he was shot in the back by Scourge with a sniper rifle, he questioned the strength remaining in his suit and feared he wouldn't be able to take another shot, so he fled for cover. "" @Nobody: Doc Ock is out quickly here IMO. It really shouldn't be that hard for the numbers to overwhelm him and shoot him. A few pumpkin bombs and Shocker could be in trouble as well. "Shockers blasts are wide range and keep growing in size the longer he fires. A pumpkin bomb couldn't even reach him, if he held his blast going. Dock Ock's arms react quickly and could knock people out from around corners before he even goes around them, so he would be safe. "
And these are standard issued HAMMER machine guns...I'm just saying, Shocker isn't exactly known for his agility or speed, so if others aren't drawing the fire for him, he could be in trouble if he faces overwhelming odds.
" @Nobody said:I don't see him being overwhelmed. By the time Rhino is taken out, the team would be well withing reach of the room. Which means that they are in the corridors of the Helicarrier, and Shocker would just have to blast down each new corridor they enter, taking out everyone in it. HAMMER agents wouldn't have some "angle" to get him from." @k4tzm4n said:" @Nobody said:Yeah, but that is from a Sniper Rifle and from someone who isn't cannon fodder. "" @Lunacyde said:However people can still open fire on him with machine guns, and I believe in his current armor, he'd only be able to take a few burst shots. When he was shot in the back by Scourge with a sniper rifle, he questioned the strength remaining in his suit and feared he wouldn't be able to take another shot, so he fled for cover. "" @Nobody: Doc Ock is out quickly here IMO. It really shouldn't be that hard for the numbers to overwhelm him and shoot him. A few pumpkin bombs and Shocker could be in trouble as well. "Shockers blasts are wide range and keep growing in size the longer he fires. A pumpkin bomb couldn't even reach him, if he held his blast going. Dock Ock's arms react quickly and could knock people out from around corners before he even goes around them, so he would be safe. "
And these are standard issued HAMMER machine guns...I'm just saying, Shocker isn't exactly known for his agility or speed, so if others aren't drawing the fire for him, he could be in trouble if he faces overwhelming odds. "
" @Nobody: So when they are going against your team they are cannon fodder, but when they're going against mine theyre highly skilled operatives.......I see how it is.... "Your team doesn't have the durability to withstand them though, or the ability to simply sneak past them.
" They're cannon fodder. I stand by the fact my guys could sneak past them. "Even Cannon Fodder has eyes:P
" @k4tzm4n said:" @Nobody said:I don't see him being overwhelmed. By the time Rhino is taken out, the team would be well withing reach of the room. Which means that they are in the corridors of the Helicarrier, and Shocker would just have to blast down each new corridor they enter, taking out everyone in it. HAMMER agents wouldn't have some "angle" to get him from. "" @k4tzm4n said:" @Nobody said:Yeah, but that is from a Sniper Rifle and from someone who isn't cannon fodder. "" @Lunacyde said:However people can still open fire on him with machine guns, and I believe in his current armor, he'd only be able to take a few burst shots. When he was shot in the back by Scourge with a sniper rifle, he questioned the strength remaining in his suit and feared he wouldn't be able to take another shot, so he fled for cover. "" @Nobody: Doc Ock is out quickly here IMO. It really shouldn't be that hard for the numbers to overwhelm him and shoot him. A few pumpkin bombs and Shocker could be in trouble as well. "Shockers blasts are wide range and keep growing in size the longer he fires. A pumpkin bomb couldn't even reach him, if he held his blast going. Dock Ock's arms react quickly and could knock people out from around corners before he even goes around them, so he would be safe. "
And these are standard issued HAMMER machine guns...I'm just saying, Shocker isn't exactly known for his agility or speed, so if others aren't drawing the fire for him, he could be in trouble if he faces overwhelming odds. "
Rhino will be unable to eliminate the glider troops, and if you send him on a direct path to the room, it is likely many troops will remain above and the 4 turrets will be in use.
" @Nobody said:I've already said, they might be able to do it. I have a hard time believing they make it past the Superhumans. But even if they do complete the task, they could not do it as fast as the Sinister Six." @Lunacyde said:So do a lot of the characters my team sneaks past. "" They're cannon fodder. I stand by the fact my guys could sneak past them. "Even Cannon Fodder has eyes:P "
" Perhaps....it is a lot easier when you have someone who can just charge through everything and everyone and basically nothing in the thread can take him down :P But he's no good if Shocker and Mysterio die. "In theory, Mysterio could walk in by himself. Get the data, and nobody would have even known he was there:P
" @Lunacyde said:Highly doubt it lol" Perhaps....it is a lot easier when you have someone who can just charge through everything and everyone and basically nothing in the thread can take him down :P But he's no good if Shocker and Mysterio die. "In theory, Mysterio could walk in by himself. Get the data, and nobody would have even known he was there:P "
" @Lunacyde said:" Perhaps....it is a lot easier when you have someone who can just charge through everything and everyone and basically nothing in the thread can take him down :P But he's no good if Shocker and Mysterio die. "In theory, Mysterio could walk in by himself. Get the data, and nobody would have even known he was there:P "
Perhaps we should make a rule...The character downloading the data cannot use their abilities and must remain focused on the computer =P
" @Nobody said:Mysterio's illusions are often passive, though, so that will just screw over the other people xD" @Lunacyde said:Perhaps we should make a rule...The character downloading the data cannot use their abilities and must remain focused on the computer =P "" Perhaps....it is a lot easier when you have someone who can just charge through everything and everyone and basically nothing in the thread can take him down :P But he's no good if Shocker and Mysterio die. "In theory, Mysterio could walk in by himself. Get the data, and nobody would have even known he was there:P "
" Doesn't Mysterio need to set-up his more elaborate illusions? "True, but once he has set them up he can usually just let them run their course.
" @Ferro Vida: My point is he just can't walk in and bam illusions left and right. "I agree. In Guardian Devil it took him Months of planning to set everything up.
He's got three hours." Doesn't Mysterio need to set-up his more elaborate illusions? "
I see the Sinister Six plan running like this.
Rhino charges full force. Along side him are illusions created by Mysterio of the other team members appearing to help Rhino fight his way through. While Rhino has gathered the attention of security. The other members of the team waltz in cloaked again by Mysterio's illusions and heads straight to the room with the computer. When they get into the room, a fight breaks out. In the confusions, Mysterio causes the the superhumans to look like the members of his team, so they start fighting each other. While they are distracted fighting themselves, Mysterio or Shocker activates the computer and gets the info and they head out.
" @Nobody: But those three hours don't allow him to get near the hellicarrier. "He wouldn't need to.
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