This team fights together to take on the Justice League!

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#1  Edited By GhostRider29

This fight starts off as a one on one fight, then whoever is left becomes a group fight. No one heals from the battle before hand. Pre-52, No morals, No bfr, fight to death OR Ko, and battle takes place in New York. Who do you think wins and why?

1. Thor vs Wonder Women

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda

4. Sentry vs Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel(DC)

10. Storm vs Red tornado

11. Moon Knight(Current) vs Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy

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#2  Edited By geraldthesloth

Basing it off of pre new 52 feats.

1. Thor vs Wonder Women-Wonder Woman

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman-Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda-Colossus because of his Juggernaut powers

4. Sentry vs Power Girl-Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan-Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart-John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl-WWH

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner-Uh this isn't really fair, but Black Adam

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel-Captain Marvel

10. Storm vs Red tornado-Red Tornado

11. Moon Knight(Current) vs Batman-Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel-Ares

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man-Iron Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)-Hercules

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy-Superboy

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#3  Edited By Decoy Elite

@geraldthesloth:

Ares(Marvel) vs Steel-Ares

Disagree. Steel's versatility with his hammer gives him an edge IMO. Also I'm not sure about Ares strenght range so I migtht be blowing smoke here. >.>

Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)-Hercules

Is Herc immune to TP?

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#4  Edited By geraldthesloth

@Decoy Elite: I don't know enough about Steel to really judge. I just assumed he wasn't as strong as Ares was.

I've seen Herc show some resistance. But I don't really think Aquaman's TP is that powerful.

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#5  Edited By Decoy Elite

@geraldthesloth: IIRC he's pretty strong(he did act as Superman for a bit), but I can't honestly pull out any feats to say how strong he is. :X

Aquaman has been able to give a white Martian a seizure and read Martian Manhunter's mind. Obviously he's not on MM's level but his TP acts in such a way that he can effect him and other Martains. Also his sheer brute force might give Herc some trouble as well, although Herc has the advantage on land.

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#6  Edited By geraldthesloth

@Decoy Elite: I'll see if I can pull out something about Herc's minimal resistance. I don't know if White Martian's are resistant to telepathy either. If it counts for anything Herc has been able to hold his own against Namor in the water before too.

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@geraldthesloth: White Martains are high level telepaths, of course they're TP resistant. From a physical standpoint they're basically the same as Martain Manhunter.

What's Namor's best strength feat, IIRC Aquaman's is lifting a building(s?) while underwater.

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#8  Edited By crackerjack82

Odd Match-ups

No clue how Wonder woman beats thor, but whatever

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#9  Edited By Decoy Elite

@crackerjack82 said:

Odd Match-ups

No clue how Wonder woman beats thor, but whatever

By punching him a lot.

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#10  Edited By geraldthesloth

@crackerjack82 said:

Odd Match-ups

No clue how Wonder woman beats thor, but whatever

Faster combat speed, nearly as strong if not more, and a completely better fighter.@Decoy Elite said:

@geraldthesloth: White Martains are high level telepaths, of course they're TP resistant. From a physical standpoint they're basically the same as Martain Manhunter.

What's Namor's best strength feat, IIRC Aquaman's is lifting a building(s?) while underwater.

Thanks for the lesson.

Namor has similar feats IIRC I can remember him lifting a building and smashing it over Attuma. Also lifting a tanker filled up with oil which adds to the weight.

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#11  Edited By Decoy Elite

@geraldthesloth: Just to mention MM is still superior to them from a TP standpoint as he is better trained.

Then I could see Herc winning, given he can stop Aquaman's TP.

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#12  Edited By geraldthesloth

@Decoy Elite: If what you say is true. Than I'd have to side with Aquaman his TP is probably too much.

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@geraldthesloth: I think it more of has to do with how his TP works. He's firing directly at the part of an opponents mind that evolved from fish or something. It's questionable if Herc has such a part of his brain due to his mystic nature.

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#14  Edited By geraldthesloth

@Decoy Elite: Well than I don't see it working, gods aren't derived from fish..at least Zeus isn't haha. I'm sure that Hercules is more powerful than him as well as far as strength and fighting ability goes.

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#15  Edited By Decoy Elite

@geraldthesloth: But Herc is part human, or did they deviate from that part of the myth?

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#16  Edited By geraldthesloth

@Decoy Elite: That's true. Is there any instances of Aquaman using it on regular humans?

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1. Thor vs Wonder Woman

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda

4. Sentry vs Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel

10. Storm vs Red Tornado

11. Moon Knight vs Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy

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#18  Edited By Decoy Elite

@geraldthesloth said:

@Decoy Elite: That's true. Is there any instances of Aquaman using it on regular humans?

I can't think of any myself, but I'll check around for scans. Although, it should be fully possible.

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#19  Edited By GhostRider29

@crackerjack82 said:

Odd Match-ups

No clue how Wonder woman beats thor, but whatever

I made some fights that I would never of made before, but I'm just so sick of seeing the same old fights re-posted a lot. I tired to change things up a bit.

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#20  Edited By crackerjack82

@GhostRider29: Oh ok @CitizenBane said:

1. Thor vs Wonder Woman

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda

4. Sentry vs Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel

10. Storm vs Red Tornado

11. Moon Knight vs Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy

Agree with all but 9, but it does stat he knock them out

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#21  Edited By Decoy Elite

@geraldthesloth: He can use TP to predict attacks. And I think the guy in this scan is human(he might not be I haven't actually read the story it's from. >.>) so that means he should be able to effect humans.

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/beatboks1/aquaman/108-550587/aquaman_tp_senses_danger_1from_human/105-2065986/

And really looking through Beatbok's stuff on Aquaman, really shows off his physically ability. He's actually got a lot of great land fighting feats I didn't realize he had(mostly in the speed/agility department) so he might be able to win a purely physical fight.

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#22  Edited By jeanroygrant

@CitizenBane said:

1. Thor vs Wonder Woman

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda

4. Sentry vs Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel

10. Storm vs Red Tornado

11. Moon Knight vs Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy

I agree with all but Beta Ray Bill vs Superman could go either way and Storm vs Red Tornado too.

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#23  Edited By emperorznb

This is based on opinion right? Well then here is my list.

1. Thor vs Wonder Woman

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda

4. Sentry vs Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner (sorry Guy T.T)

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel(DC)

10. Storm vs Red tornado

11. Moon Knight(Current) vs Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy

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#24  Edited By jeanroygrant

@emperorznb said:

This is based on opinion right? Well then here is my list.

1. Thor vs Wonder Woman

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda

4. Sentry vs Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner (sorry Guy T.T)

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel(DC)

10. Storm vs Red tornado

11. Moon Knight(Current) vs Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy

How come you said Wonder Woman could beat Thor but Beta Ray Bill could beat Superman

Thor>Beta Ray Bill

Superman>Wonder Woman

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#25  Edited By emperorznb

@jeanroygrant: I always think that Wonder Woman is superior to Superman not in strength nor in speed but as a whole package. And yes Thor > Beta Ray Bill > Superman but it's just that Wonder Woman's skills are nothing to laugh at. It's always hard to decide when I see a WW vs Thor thread because they are roughly equals IMO but I give Wonder Woman the edge because of her fighting skills, experience, and reaction time. While Thor may highly superior in strength... Wonder Woman still has the capacity to hurt Thor and she could tag up with him. She outran Jessie Quick who were both running at FTL speeds and WW has been sometimes referred to being faster than Superman. Well that's my reason xD

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#26  Edited By beatboks1

@Decoy Elite said:

@geraldthesloth: He can use TP to predict attacks. And I think the guy in this scan is human(he might not be I haven't actually read the story it's from. >.>) so that means he should be able to effect humans.

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/beatboks1/aquaman/108-550587/aquaman_tp_senses_danger_1from_human/105-2065986/

And really looking through Beatbok's stuff on Aquaman, really shows off his physically ability. He's actually got a lot of great land fighting feats I didn't realize he had(mostly in the speed/agility department) so he might be able to win a purely physical fight.

In terms of physical Strength, Herc is obviously superior. I'd say Arthur is around an 80 to 90 tonner (at a push) he has a couple of feats that are above that, but consistency wise no. Durability wise he should be able to take, he's traded blows with Martian Manhunter more than once and taken some massive blows from Wonder Woman, Lobo, Starbreaker and other heavy hitters. he's beaten Superboy (tactile TK one) it. His speed would be a definite advantage he can swim at speeds over mach 9 and has run at 175mph on land. In a physical Battle i would say Herc would take it after a very hard fought one.

His TP does work on humans as well as fish. In the SA it was described as only working on creatures who had evolved from the sea. In the BA it was referred to as working on the "autonomic" parts of the brain. Remember fish don't have higher brain function, so Aquaman doesn't "talk" to fish he literally controls them. That's how he was able to effectively shut down a white martian. being a TPer meant that the martian would have sensed a normal TP attack but not been preparred for one that works on the "instinct" part of the brain. He has telepathically communicated with hundreds of different races of Atlanteans all over the globe at once, he has also TP battles dimensional entities (who are obviously not evolved from sea life ), and battled with other very powerful telepaths like Koryak. the result of that battle actually had a telepathic feedback that caused pain to every being under the sea.

HIs TP should make this fight interesting if written properly

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#27  Edited By desmond006

1. Thor vs Wonder Women

2. Beta Ray Bill vs Superman

3. Colossus(Current) vs Big Barda

4. Sentry vs Power Girl

5. Gladiator vs Hal Jordan

6. Vision vs John Stewart

7. World War Hulk vs Beast Boy, Cyborg, Star Fire, and Wonder Girl

8. Black Adam vs Guy Gardner

9. Ghost Rider(Johnny Blaze, and yes, Ghost Riders can be knocked out) vs Captain Marvel(DC)

10. Storm vs Red tornado

11. Moon Knight(Current) vs Batman

12. Ares(Marvel) vs Steel = if he uses long range

13. Iron Man vs Hawk Girl and Hawk Man

14. Hercules(Normal Powers) vs Aqua Man(Just out of water)

15. The Thing, A-Bomb, War Machine vs Super Boy = maybe if you replaced thing or a-bomb wih somone

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