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#1 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9194 posts) - - Show Bio
Spider-Man & Thing
Ravagers #4

Rules

Random encounter

Current Version of both

No help

No prep

No BFR

Morals off,bloodlust

Wins by any means (except BFR)

LOcation:Belle Reve

#2 Posted by YoungJustice (6919 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy, I have a bad feeling that he will just rip Thing apart with his TK from the inside when he realizes that he cant really physically hurt Thing.

#3 Posted by Z3RO180 (6718 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungJustice said:

Superboy, I have a bad feeling that he will just rip Thing apart with his TK from the inside when he realizes that he cant really physically hurt Thing.

pretty much this senario

#4 Posted by Bo88gdan (4669 posts) - - Show Bio

Thing wins

#5 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9194 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#6 Posted by stephens2177 (1103 posts) - - Show Bio

SB can take shots from the Things level of power,but SB has kryptonian level mimmicked strength and durability,thats more than enough to stand up with ben,also his TTK/TK powers are amazingly powerful in the nudcu,he could and should own ben easily.

#7 Posted by The_Roman (3297 posts) - - Show Bio

Gots to go with Superboy.

#8 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

Thing got this. Ben Grimm fights dirty and can manage to get in a low blow. Superboy's tactile telekinesis only works on things he's aware of.

#9 Posted by stephens2177 (1103 posts) - - Show Bio

this is a random encounter,not one side sneaking up on the other,so ben ismt gonna have time to do that.SB can tactile sense everythijg he is in contact with,so as soon as ben touches the ground,kon knows it,and his TK will do the rest.

#10 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177:

You don't have to sneak up on someone to fight dirty. Sand in the eyes, etc. would count as dirty fighting. Also I'm confused by your statement on his tactile sense. If that was the case, he would have "sensed" the person with the metal bar who snuck up behind him. I can see Ben managing to catch him off guard with some kind of trick.

#11 Posted by stephens2177 (1103 posts) - - Show Bio

easy answer-he sees some as threats,and others not.thing would be a threat,regular humans not so much. 
so in your opinion ben cant win without a cheap shot? that says something.

#12 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9194 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#13 Posted by stephens2177 (1103 posts) - - Show Bio

you must think superboy is gonna stand and throw punches with ben,cause he wouldnt,he has full TK so he doesnt even need to touch him,not to mention if he does touch him he has his TTK abilities,and will totally control him the minute he touches him.

#14 Posted by Nefarious (22932 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy.

#15 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Superboy.
#16 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9194 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#17 Posted by Simon_the_digger (3427 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Superboy.
Online
#18 Posted by buttersdaman000 (10575 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy lol

#19 Edited by ArtsyGal (125 posts) - - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Superboy's tactile telekinesis only works on things he's aware of.

New 52 Superboy has full out telekinesis, IIRC. He tears things apart and rearranges things with flashy effects, so I'm pretty sure he has full out TK.

#20 Posted by stephens2177 (1103 posts) - - Show Bio

he has BOTH,he can do anything a full TK can do,but also has the TTK more destructive powers as well.ben only wins this if kon is stupid enough to not see ben as a threat,and common sense will tell me,you,and him,if a big guy made out of rock is coming at you,he is a threat. 
 
oh and if this fight was taking place five years into the future,kon would embarrasss ben effortlessly.

#21 Posted by forDarkseid (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Not well versed in The Thing however DCNU Kon is a force to be reckoned with. TTK should give Kon the win here.

#22 Posted by Psycorvus (65 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy could make Ben explode or send him sailong through the air, so many miles Ben wouldn't even knew where he was once he woke up!

#23 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Thing even fast enough to hit him?

#24 Posted by asIsuspected (543 posts) - - Show Bio

IT'S A CLOBBERIN' TIME!!!!

#25 Posted by Onemoreposter (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

Gonna go with Thing. I am wholly unimpressed with DCnU Kon-El

#26 Posted by ScottishWarlord (155 posts) - - Show Bio

Easy win for superboy

#27 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArtsyGal said:

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Superboy's tactile telekinesis only works on things he's aware of.

New 52 Superboy has full out telekinesis, IIRC. He tears things apart and rearranges things with flashy effects, so I'm pretty sure he has full out TK.

This.

My opinion goes to Superboy.

Vouile

#28 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

superboy stomps.

#29 Posted by stephens2177 (1103 posts) - - Show Bio
@Onemoreposter:  what didnt impress you about the nuSB? 
 
ben is a brick,just a brick,he doesnt fly,he is slow,he has no long range attacks,there is a reason he is on the fantastic four,they compliment the others perfeclty,now if kon was fighting super skrull now that wpuld be different. 
 
superboy has TTK mimicked strength strong enough to take kryptoniab speed blitz attacks,and actually catch their fists,he also has TK that gives him long range attacks,and on top of that he has TTK senses from his consciousness spread through his body tjat he can spread through anything he comes in contact with,and it works to see,learn,and react to it,he is too much for ben by far.
#30 Posted by Onemoreposter (4101 posts) - - Show Bio

@stephens2177: When did Kon catch a kryptonian's fist during a speedblitz in the new 52?

#31 Posted by spiderpool94 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

The Thing.

#32 Posted by stephens2177 (1103 posts) - - Show Bio
@Onemoreposter: he caught kara's after she was speedblitzing him,and that was after she found out he was a clone,and she called him kon-el. that was a huge feat to me actually,because 1) she is kryptonian2) she was beating the hell out of him,and he just decides thats enough and stops her cold.
#33 Posted by anurag_50 (162 posts) - - Show Bio

Thing: I don't care who you are... I do know this.. IT'S CLOBBERIN'....

(Gets thrown across the city for 10 minutes by Superboy0

Thing:......... time...?

#34 Edited by The_Titan_Lord (7084 posts) - - Show Bio

lol. The Thing.

#35 Posted by comic_book_fan (5957 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing

#36 Posted by dondave (38897 posts) - - Show Bio

Kon wipes his mind

#37 Edited by ArmedTron (165 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy is stronger, faster, and is more versatile. From what I have seen, in term of durability, they're pretty close, assuming the thing seems to be more durable...but supes is with majority... Oh.....and TK

#38 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Kon wipes his mind

exactly. also side note on that last issue :(

#39 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12403 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Kon wipes his mind

Kon's a telepath?

#40 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Kon wipes his mind

Kon's a telepath?

right before he dies he discovers more of his abilities and he wipes Kara's memory of the last few days.

#41 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

#42 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12403 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil: so...he's dead, they killed superboy......again

#43 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@ancient_0f_days said:

@foreverevil: so...he's dead, they killed superboy......again

you should probably spoiler block that but yea...he's dead...Jon will take over the superboy book im sure :(

#44 Posted by KingAres109 (1333 posts) - - Show Bio

Smh...People choosing off of popularity Instead of who would actually win.They hate one company so much that they'll pick that character to win even though most ppl say he loses.Sighs...

#45 Edited by comic_book_fan (5957 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing is stronger and just as durable better fighter and strong enough will power to keep push stronger minds out.

#46 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

the thing is stronger and just as durable better fighter and strong enough will power to keep push stronger minds out.

Superboy doesnt even have to touch him to win.

#47 Posted by Experio (17240 posts) - - Show Bio

Smh...People choosing off of popularity Instead of who would actually win.They hate one company so much that they'll pick that character to win even though most ppl say he loses.Sighs...

Who do you think wins?

#48 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio said:

@kingares109 said:

Smh...People choosing off of popularity Instead of who would actually win.They hate one company so much that they'll pick that character to win even though most ppl say he loses.Sighs...

Who do you think wins?

im pretty sure he's giving his vote to superboy

#49 Posted by KingAres109 (1333 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: To be honest?I think SB got this.ln the new52 he's pretty powerful and versatile.The Thing is strong..But what else does he bring to the tabel?And the fact that SB is much faster combat wise I dont see how Thing tags him.