Random encounter
no prep
morals off
ko elmination
location: gama base 60 feet away
current versions of thing,blob, and rhino
pre WWH hulk
no juggernaut powers for colossus
Thing and Colossus by themselves have gone toe-to-toe with pre-WWH Hulk, and I believe Grimm has even beaten him once or twice. I'm going with the team.
Hulk wins this.
An apt analogy would be to ask what would happen if we throw 4 bantam weights at the heavy weight champ.
Savage Hulk has gone toe to toe with Hercules, Wonder Man, Namor, Doc Samson all at once ... with the exception of Doc Samson, all are more powerful than the opponents in this thread. Hercules quite a bit so.
Rhino is easy pickings (a good one two combo has taken him out in the past). Blob gets KO'd too (don't care how 'unmoveable' he is). Boils down to the Thing and Colossus before too long. Battle of attrition even the two together should not be able to win. And this based off durability feats, strength feats and power. Hulk should win this. But I can be convinced otherwise with a good argument ...
Hulk
Thing is the only one of those guys that can remotely challenge Hulk, and Thing cannot usually beat him
@Illuminatus said:
Thing and Colossus by themselves have gone toe-to-toe with pre-WWH Hulk, and I believe Grimm has even beaten him once or twice. I'm going with the team.
As previously stated, Thing and Colossus can go toe to toe with Hulk for quite awhile before getting overpowered. Rhino with his boosts is about a 100 tonner these days right? And Blob is nobody to be underestimated. Individually the Hulk beats off of these guys. But as a group I think Hulk will go down before his rage overpowers them.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
I would love to see feats, modern or otherwise, showing how any of these blokes can put Hulk down. The Thing and Colossus may last a few rounds, sure, but they don't (even collectively) have the blunt force damage to put him down IMO.
Glad to see we all agree that they all get individually dropped at least. Though even collectively I don't see them holding the damage output necessary to drop Hulk. Conversely, any one of Hulk's haymakers can drop any one of these guys.
Thing is durable, but lacks the healing factor as does Colossus. With Hulk soaking four blows to their one, he'd still outlast due to said healing factor and due to the fact that he is significantly stronger. Rhino has a notorious glass jaw. Despite his apparent 'amp' we'd have to see him soak some damage before drawing any conclusions. Spider-Man KO's him consistently. Think about it. Blob doesn't really matter. He's a punching bag that can be safely saved for last. Or first, Or wheresoever Hulk choses really.
@Super_SoldierXII:
People who have beat the Hulk:
Namor
Wolverine (A couple times actually, though kind of lucky) (One was as Death)
Abomination (Much stronger than anyone here, but not as strong as them collectively)
Iron Man
The Thing (I think Hulk was depowered at the time though?)
Juggernaut (Again, well above these guys levels)
Spiderman with Uniforce I believe (double check me on that one)
Sentry beat WWH by stopping the Hulk's punches with his face.
Iron Man, and Namor I think are the best two examples of people who have beat the Hulk here. I think they are a good show of how a strong character can KO the Hulk BEFORE his regeneration, strength, and durability make him unstoppable. Wolverine was also a good example of how if you are fast enough you could potentially do this. But in the end, I think this team collectively can match Namor, Wolverine, Abomination (maybe, that's questionable), and Iron Man. Like I said, I have no doubt that if this weren't a full team fighting Hulk at once, Hulk would mop the floor with them, I won't debate this. But if all four of them attack Hulk when he is at minimum power, I believe they can put him down before his physical abilities get so far out of hand that he rips their limbs off and beats them to death with them.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@Floopay:
Wolverine has never beaten the Hulk (that I know of). If he has, it's PIS pure and simple. He came as close as he ever will (or should) as Death. But that is questionable. Even so, Wolverine is ramming six twelve inch claws through Hulk's noggin. Hulk seems more succeptible to such damage than he does blunt force. So the comparison is moot.
I am not aware of the fight wherein Namor beats the Hulk. Can you please provide a source?
Iron Man has tech to provide the type of damage output that might put Hulk out. He is not pure blunt force. So Iron Man beating Hulk does nothing to prove these four have enough power to put Hulk down.
The Thing gets 'clobbered' more often than not against the Hulk. So if he has won 'one' of their tussles, I'd have to read it to comment. I do not know of said victory and as you state Hulk might have been depowered, I can discard it. Unless you can provide a source?
Point is, Hulk eats blunt force like no ones business. All these four offer is blunt force. Still running with Hulk but thanks for taking the time to provide an argument.
Namor hasn't beaten hulk in years he has gotten stronger since.@Super_SoldierXII:
People who have beat the Hulk:
Namor
Wolverine (A couple times actually, though kind of lucky) (One was as Death)
Abomination (Much stronger than anyone here, but not as strong as them collectively)
Iron Man
The Thing (I think Hulk was depowered at the time though?)
Juggernaut (Again, well above these guys levels)
Spiderman with Uniforce I believe (double check me on that one)
Sentry beat WWH by stopping the Hulk's punches with his face.
Iron Man, and Namor I think are the best two examples of people who have beat the Hulk here. I think they are a good show of how a strong character can KO the Hulk BEFORE his regeneration, strength, and durability make him unstoppable. Wolverine was also a good example of how if you are fast enough you could potentially do this. But in the end, I think this team collectively can match Namor, Wolverine, Abomination (maybe, that's questionable), and Iron Man. Like I said, I have no doubt that if this weren't a full team fighting Hulk at once, Hulk would mop the floor with them, I won't debate this. But if all four of them attack Hulk when he is at minimum power, I believe they can put him down before his physical abilities get so far out of hand that he rips their limbs off and beats them to death with them.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@Magneto14: @Quntumking:
Prove how team one destroys Hulk. Until you can, your opinion is not worth much of anything. Show feats. Show something. Fact is, none have demonstrated the damage output necessary to put Hulk down. Not today's Hulk.
Hulk would win here, I don't see what any one from the team could do to take him out before he takes them down!!!
@Super_SoldierXII: I've changed my stance to where it might not be an easy win, but I know Colossus has knocked Hulk out in the past. A knockout is grounds for a win in the battle, right?
Granted when he let his guard down Hulk did recover, but it still doesn't change the fact that Colossus did knock him out. I'm sure most people agree here that Ben and Colossus are close in terms of strength. It's a safe assumption that Ben is capable of doing the same to this version of Hulk.
@cattlebattle said:
Hulk Thing is the only one of those guys that can remotely challenge Hulk, and Thing cannot usually beat him
@Super_SoldierXII said:
@Floopay:
Wolverine has never beaten the Hulk (that I know of). If he has, it's PIS pure and simple. He came as close as he ever will (or should) as Death. But that is questionable. Even so, Wolverine is ramming six twelve inch claws through Hulk's noggin. Hulk seems more succeptible to such damage than he does blunt force. So the comparison is moot.
I am not aware of the fight wherein Namor beats the Hulk. Can you please provide a source?
Iron Man has tech to provide the type of damage output that might put Hulk out. He is not pure blunt force. So Iron Man beating Hulk does nothing to prove these four have enough power to put Hulk down.
The Thing gets 'clobbered' more often than not against the Hulk. So if he has won 'one' of their tussles, I'd have to read it to comment. I do not know of said victory and as you state Hulk might have been depowered, I can discard it. Unless you can provide a source?
Point is, Hulk eats blunt force like no ones business. All these four offer is blunt force. Still running with Hulk but thanks for taking the time to provide an argument.
Wrong, iron man has knockedout hulk cold through the use of blunt force. Although iron man's suit had malfunctioned afterwards, iron man did infact solo the hulk. I believe that the team combined definitely has more blunt force than tony can muster up in his regular suit. I have uploaded these scans myself. And how about you provide evidence as to how hulk can take on the team instead questioning others as how the team can take hulk.
@Super_SoldierXII said:
@Magneto14: @Quntumking:
Prove how team one destroys Hulk. Until you can, your opinion is not worth much of anything. Show feats. Show something. Fact is, none have demonstrated the damage output necessary to put Hulk down. Not today's Hulk.
Well, Thing and Colossus have been able to show us that they can stand toe to toe with Hulk, alone they obviously wouldn't win. However, alongside eachother, plus Rhino and the Blob they would probably be able to defeat Hulk. Rhino has grown in strength through the years, Blob, well Blob may just provide a distraction. But Thing and Colossus certainly would give the team a major advantage, I mean, imagine what those two could do if they were united.
@Magneto14: @Rickbarry:
The problem is Hulk has had so many incarnations and obvious amps since those early books ... he is not anywhere near the same creature as before.
Which book is that Colossus tussle from? That's got to be his best showing by far. I was unaware of that fight.
@Super_SoldierXII: I believe it's X-men vs. Hulk. Logan wants to give Colossus a serving of humble pie so he arranges Colossus and Hulk to bump into one another. Shenanigans ensue and eventually Hulk gets the upper hand, but reverts back to Banner and the two have an epic handshake. I think it came out after Jean died, but I'm not sure.
@Rickbarry said:
@Super_SoldierXII: I believe it's X-men vs. Hulk. Logan wants to give Colossus a serving of humble pie so he arranges Colossus and Hulk to bump into one another. Shenanigans ensue and eventually Hulk gets the upper hand, but reverts back to Banner and the two have an epic handshake. I think it came out after Jean died, but I'm not sure.
Lol. Logan can be such a d_ck sometimes.
hulk might when if the he gets really angry. i can see both teams winning. hulk has shown impressive feats that make team 1 look like kids.
now a days hulk can become world breaker if he wants to.
when you stack up the stats it can go either way.
Team, since Rihno will try his horn against Hulk and his horn now is now Midgard Serpent's tooth.
Without it? I am no sure, it can go either way.
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Hulk no problem...... the highlighted box is supposed to include the rest of Iron man's sentence in the next frame.........
Current Rhino has a horn made from the tooth of the Midgard Serpent so I believe he should be able to prove a problem. He took down Thor, (Thor wasn't really paying attention, but the fact that the horn was able to pirece his skin was the thing.) Blob or Thing hold him, Pete and Alexi pound and then Impale.
@TDK_1997 said:
@Army2442 said:
@TDK_1997: why
Thing has been up against WWH and almost won once.Colossus also went toe-to-toe with WWH and fought well and with two guys to the team with power that is enough big,they would win but still with problems.
Thing was destroyed easily by world war hulk as was colossus.
Hulk. the Team has a big chance but i belive that if they don't hit him hard enough hulk is going to get only madder and stronger.
@Army2442 said:
@TDK_1997 said:
@Army2442 said:
@TDK_1997: why
Thing has been up against WWH and almost won once.Colossus also went toe-to-toe with WWH and fought well and with two guys to the team with power that is enough big,they would win but still with problems.
Thing was destroyed easily by world war hulk as was colossus.
Then I am wrong.
I go for Hulk. Its true that colossus can go toe to toe with WWHULK for a maximum of say 5 seconds. Same for thing and Rhino. Blob will probably sit their eating his cakes or something , even if hulk cant beat them in WW hulk he would easily beat them in World breaker Hulk.
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