" @jacobyLIVE said:errr I wouldn't go that far, but you're right about everything else" @AngelFrost said:I don't think you know how tough Starfire is. She's easily one of, if not the strongest members in the Titans. Her bolts have the same energy and heat as the sun itself. Her flight speed is incredibly fast, and her strength could probably outmatch WW. "" @jacobyLIVE said:Perhaps not. But could Star dodge some flying,razor sharp,ice projectiles? A few,yeah. But how about a ton? "But could he reform after solar, star bolts from Starfire? which are said to be hotter than the sun itself? "
Yeah,but he's back in the game nonetheless "
these teen titans vs these x-men
You're being extremely dishonest if you believe that this is how it's going down. Never mind the fact that this argument is extremely weak because it presupposes that the entire battle will go down in this fashion, with so many variables at play. This is an random encounter: neither team knows the abilities of the other. Why would KF be taken down first instead of Beast Boy or Terra? Also. all your matchups require the Titans to fight wildly out of character." @CosmicSpiral: Which was what I was trying to do. But he keeps going back to Kid Flash. X-Men: Cyke directs them to do this. Cubes lower temperature, freezes KF, Kurt Bamfs him away but when returns gets pummeled by Tempest upon returning. Iceman gets taken out by Raven and Jean takes out Tempest. Jean gets knocked out by Raven but forces her to use her full power which cause Raven to leave to refocus to prevent from going Evil Raven. Donna goes after Storm only for her to be knocked back and Cyke to take her out with a powered optic blast. Starfire fires a powerful starbolt taking out Storm in the process. Leaves Nightwing, Starfire, BB, Terra, Cyborg versus Colossus, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Cyke, and Gambit. Terra takes out Wolverine with a rockslide only to be blasted by Cyke out. Cyborg and BB go after Colossus and Gambit with Cy taking out Gambit with a punch and BB getting owned by Colossus. Cyborg and Colossus both knock each other out. NIghtwing beats Beast with his bo staff and then starts a show down with Cyke only for Cyke to sidestep him and optic blast him. Rogue goes toe to toe with Stafire only for Star to blast her but afterwards gets hit by a blast. "
Captain Cold stated that his wide-beam cold field (which lowers the temperature to absolute zero) slows the Flash down so he can see him. The later Flashes cannot be frozen so easily: they can vibrate their molecules at will.
Neither Storm nor Cyclops is powerful enough to take out Donna. She is a magical duplicate of Wonder Woman, albeit slightly weaker.
Nightwing is a better H2H combatant than Cyclops.
Scratch what i said before. Atlee is better with her powers than Tara Markov, but the latter is far more willing to kill with them. Terra can attack more than one person with her powers.
" @crimsonspider89 said:Buh buh buh, Cyclops can destroy half a planet with his optic beams!!" @CosmicSpiral: Which was what I was trying to do. But he keeps going back to Kid Flash. X-Men: Cyke directs them to do this. Cubes lower temperature, freezes KF, Kurt Bamfs him away but when returns gets pummeled by Tempest upon returning. Iceman gets taken out by Raven and Jean takes out Tempest. Jean gets knocked out by Raven but forces her to use her full power which cause Raven to leave to refocus to prevent from going Evil Raven. Donna goes after Storm only for her to be knocked back and Cyke to take her out with a powered optic blast. Starfire fires a powerful starbolt taking out Storm in the process. Leaves Nightwing, Starfire, BB, Terra, Cyborg versus Colossus, Beast, Wolverine, Rogue, Cyke, and Gambit. Terra takes out Wolverine with a rockslide only to be blasted by Cyke out. Cyborg and BB go after Colossus and Gambit with Cy taking out Gambit with a punch and BB getting owned by Colossus. Cyborg and Colossus both knock each other out. NIghtwing beats Beast with his bo staff and then starts a show down with Cyke only for Cyke to sidestep him and optic blast him. Rogue goes toe to toe with Stafire only for Star to blast her but afterwards gets hit by a blast. "You're being extremely dishonest if you believe that this is how it's going down. Never mind the fact that this argument is extremely weak because it presupposes that the entire battle will go down in this fashion, with so many variables at play. This is an random encounter: neither team knows the abilities of the other. Why would KF be taken down first instead of Beast Boy or Terra? Also. all your matchups require the Titans to fight wildly out of character. Captain Cold stated that his wide-beam cold field (which lowers the temperature to absolute zero) slows the Flash down so he can see them. The later Flashes cannot be frozen so easily: they can vibrate their molecules at will. Neither Storm or Cyclops is powerful enough to take out Donna. She is a magical duplicate of Wonder Woman, albeit slightly weaker. Nightwing is a better H2H combatant than Cyclops. Scratch what i said before. Atlee is better with her powers than Tara Markov, but the latter is far more willing to kill with them. Terra can attack more than one people with her powers. "
"X-men Or Maybe Teen Titans Heres My Reasons: If this is a no morals for killing battle then X-men would win. Cyclops could take out Cyborg, Red arrown, and maybe Terra, however he would eventually be beaten by Beast Boy. Wolverine could take out beast boy, before getting beaten by Donna Troy, Donna troy gets beaten by Colossus, Colossus also beats Kid flash beast boy and starfire. Nightwing would beat Gambit, Nightcrawler, and Iceman easily. Raven would beat Jean Grey and Storm. So it would be only two characters left, Nightwing and Raven Vs. Colossus and Rogue. "
Did you just name random characters and say they beat each other? There is no rhyme or reason to your picks.
How is Colossus supposed to beat Starfire or Kid Flash? How is Raven supposed to beat Storm?
" @Red_Blade: Better check your facts. I just did, gets too close and frozen with a thought. Cyke can destroy half a planet with an optic blast and has leveled mountains before. He overloaded Bishop. Cyke has pinpoint accuracy and he did it as she was taking out Wolverine. Cyke has been elevated to a great hand to hand fighter now and they went toe to toe and CYke blasted her with his blast. He took them out as they were wore out. Cheap yes, effective yes. "
Buahahaha that was realy funny.
k how bout this
nightwing vs gambit
starfire vs storm
donna vs rogue(no absorption)
beast boy vs wolverine
raven vs jean grey
cyborg vs colossus
kid flash vs nightcrawler
terra vs iceman
tempest vs beast
red arrow vs cyclops
Nightwing vs Gambit
Starfire vs Storm
Donna vs Rogue
Beast Boy vs Wolverine (I don't know)
Raven vs Jean Grey (either can win)
Cyborg vs Colossus
Kid Flash vs Nightcrawler
Terra vs Iceman
Tempest vs Beast
Red Arrow vs Cyclops
Thats a good battle but what i can probably pick out those who would fall out first...
From Teen Titats (Possible Order):
Red Arrow
Terra
Cyborg
Beastboy
Tempest
Starfire
Donna
Kid Flash
Nightwing
Raven
From X-Men (Possible Order):
Beast
Gambit
Cyclops
Jean
Nightcrawler
Iceman
Colossus
Storm
Wolverine
Rogue
Still unsure what the result of the outcome will be... X-Men?..
"@rein said:Quicksilver is a joke. He's been beaten by Spider-Man sticking his arm out. "" The x-man have defeated Speedsters before like quicksilver. "
@CosmicSpiral:
was that when he ran at just 200mph? quicksilver now runs at mach 5. he would kill spider-man now.
" @CosmicSpiral said:Probably. It doesn't matter how much faster he runs, the point is he's never tried to master his speed-related powers. At Mach 5, he should be more than capable of taking out teams by himself."@rein said:@CosmicSpiral: was that when he ran at just 200mph? quicksilver now runs at mach 5. he would kill spider-man now. "Quicksilver is a joke. He's been beaten by Spider-Man sticking his arm out. "" The x-man have defeated Speedsters before like quicksilver. "
I'd have to say that both sides have chances of crippling the other teams. Kid Flash doesn't normally fight whole teams by himself even though he could... Iceman, cyclops, and Storm have crowd control powers which can devastate more or the lesser invulnerable teammates on the Titans, But terra, Cyborg, and Starfire could do the same, although I'd say the combined long distance powers of the former team would over power the latter. Wolverine could pull off as a distraction, but the h2hers of the titans are probably just gonna end up knocking him away or out if lucky.. Nightcrawaler can teleport many of all but KF like a mile away if he tries to teleport too far he'll tire himself out, so i'd chose to teleport someone who can't return to the fight so fast. Raven and Jean would probably just pick someone who isn't doing much, probably each other, but I wouldn't give a clear winner to either side, maybe they'd beat themselves. KfF is taking on whoever he choses first, if its iceman he can present a problemo. The will follow by who can hit first, not whose powers are similar or whatevs. Kf has the choice of attack who he wants first. The two leaders might end up battleing eachother or not. The Iceman and Kf fight if it were to happen would still be ify. A person trying to stop a speedster. the two of them would use their minds as well as powers. Red Arrow and Nightwing's best bet is to attack and run, the X-men may not all be supreme level, but they can easily harm a human who doesn't get out the way fast enough.Rogue has a chance of stealing power, but to take away that ability is to hinder a small possibility for the team to win. The fight is determind by the first and last blow, but you have to open your mind to many possibiltties and probabilities.^3^
People regularly pulls this card and i am going to pull this here; Raven sucks them all up and dumps them in some barren dimension or hell.
The X-Men win. They have experience with far more dangerous and powerful opponents than the Teen Titans, to be frank. And candidly, between Cyclops, Storm and Beast, their combined leadership experience means the stronger Titans are going down very hard, very quickly. The Titans really don't compare favorably with a team of experienced, mature combat operatives like the X-Men.
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