Theme Battle Tourny R3 Fetts vs Esquire

@Fetts Red

Boba Fett - EE-3 carbine blaster , sniper blaster, WESTAR-34 blaster pistols, ZX miniature flamethrower, mini-concussion rocket launcher, dart launcher (one under knee pad, one in right gauntlet, concussion grenade launcher, DUR-24 wrist blaster, Mandoalorian armor (Mandalorian iron), wrist cord, thermal detonators, sonic detonator, retractable vibro-blades, vibro-club, jetpack w/ missile, helmet (w/ a gas filter and lots of vision modes).

Darth Vader - Darth Vader's suit and lightsaber

Darth Maul (cyborg) - Cyborg legs, lightsaber, and thermal detonators

General Grievous - Lightsabers, electrostaff, wrist cord, and blaster

Durge - Gen'Dai armor, jetpack, energized bolas, machine gun gauntlet, flamethrower, spiked flail, dart launchers, energy shields, T-6 Thunderer heavy blaster pistol, WESTAR M5 blaster rifle.

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@Esquire Blue

Classic Cable - Ear Piece, Beam Rifle w/ Thermal Scope, Twin Desert Eagles, Twin SMGs, Psi-Mitar, Frag, Flash, and EMP Grenades, Combat Knife

Wolverine - Ear Piece, Muramasa Blade, Twin Desert Eagles, Adamantium Skeleton and Claws

Monet - Ear Piece

Psylocke - Ear Piece, Australian Armor, Psychic Katana, Psychic Knife

Emma Frost - Ear Piece, Twin Desert Eagles, Frag, Flash, EMP Grenades, Kevlar Armor

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Battle Ground:

Scenario:

Welcome to this Episode of THEME BATTLE. Where Master Hand collects the best of every Omniverse and throws them in the mix. Todays match is Star Wars vs X-Men matchup for the Ages! On this Snow Map of Freezing weather we have to bases on each side. The Match is a Cpature the Flag!!! Each Star is the Flag Are out in the open. You cannot remove this flag except by physicaly grabing it. No TK, Zip Lines, or other shenagins. He who can debate taking the enemy Flag while holding there own wins! Or you can KO your opponets team, that works too.

Perks:

Base Defense! You have 4 Auto Lasers gaurding your flag along with a Electric Dome Fence!

Respawn Point! You have the Ability to Teleport your whole Team back to your Flag. Cannot do this if someone is carrying the Flag

Rules: Morals On, No BFR, Power Neutral Universe, Everyone Knows the Basic (Unless from same Universe then Detailed) of Everyone.

When done Debating we will Vote.

Esquire? Dammit I feel screwed. 
 
I guess I'll take Respawn Point. Also would you care to tell me which side I'm on?

@Fetts: MY Bad Edited.

Does esquire know? lol about the topic I mean. Neat

@Vaeternus: I know hes been busy alot.

@Fetts @CadenceV2 I've been really busy lately, so Fetts can make the opening post. I'll try to keep up with it, but I'm in mid-gigantic debate with NickZ in NickD's tourney and I've got Cadence and my debate to do, as well as Floopay's tourney, so sorry if it takes me a while to respond.

Anyway, I'll take Base Defense just to be different. And which side do I start on?

@Fetts: @Esquire: Yup! Fetts starts where the Star is colored like Darth Vaders Lightsaber. Esquire starts where the Star is colored Classic Cables outfit. :)

@Fetts Opening Strategy:

Monet will head up and arc over the battlefield, working to provide air superiority. Emma will cast an illusion over your team, making them think they're being lectured by Darth Sidious. Maul and Vader may be able to resist thanks to their force powers, but the other three have no such advantage. Cable, Psylocke, and Wolverine will run across the battlefield towards your team. Cable will use his technopathy to disable Vader and Grevious's life support and Maul's legs, causing Vader and Grevious to die and Maul to be immobile. Then Cable and Psylocke will restrain Maul's arms telekinetically while Wolverine runs in for the kill. Monet will then grab the flag while Boba and Durge are still under an illusion.

@Fetts: @Esquire: Alright Bumping This. I'm giving this till Wednesday and then it need to be wrapped up. Votes begin on Wednesday!

OOPS. I completely forgot about this one. I'll try to get on it sometime soon.

@Esquire: @Fetts: Wednsday Night Guys im opening for Votes.

@Fetts I'd like to reiterate just how useful Cable's technopathy will be in this battle.

Boba Fett - Aside from his numerous explosives which could be detonated with TK or technopathy, his helmet can be messed with, and his jetpack can be used to smash him into walls and his teammates.

Darth Vader - He relies on his suit for life support. With it shut down, he won't survive long. Added to this, his limbs are all cybernetic, so they can be shut down independently.

Darth Maul (cyborg) - Cyborg legs can be shut down or used to move him places he doesn't want to go.

General Grievous - Grevious, like Vader, can be killed via life support shutdown. His entire body is cybernetic, so he can possibly be forced to attack his teammates.

Durge - He's the lest vulnerable, but his jetpack can still be used to turn him against his teammates.

So we have to vote for which user has posted better argument?

@Vaeternus: yes

OK. As of now starting my starting my strategy. So don't start voting until I'm done.

@Fetts Opening Strategy:

Monet will head up and arc over the battlefield, working to provide air superiority. Emma will cast an illusion over your team, making them think they're being lectured by Darth Sidious. Maul and Vader may be able to resist thanks to their force powers, but the other three have no such advantage. Cable, Psylocke, and Wolverine will run across the battlefield towards your team. Cable will use his technopathy to disable Vader and Grevious's life support and Maul's legs, causing Vader and Grevious to die and Maul to be immobile. Then Cable and Psylocke will restrain Maul's arms telekinetically while Wolverine runs in for the kill. Monet will then grab the flag while Boba and Durge are still under an illusion.

@Fetts said:

Alrighy then. The very first thing Vader will do is elevate the ground beneath Cable's and Psylocke's feet. Because of this, Cable won't be able to concentrate on using his technopathy and neither Cable or Psylocke would be able to concentrate on using telepathy and telekinesis. Cable isn't using his technopathy first thing in your strategy, so my team is all set there. I was hoping that you wouldn't use his technopathy as the very first part of your strategy. Otherwise we'd be having a pretty large debate over who has the faster draw. So I'm glad we have that settled. Then there's Emma's illusion. Vader will use the snow on the ground to punch her in the face, ending her concentration on her telepathy, and thus ending the illusion. Note that Vader will do this immediately after Cable and Psylocke are punched by the ground. This will be then followed by a constant pouring of an avalanche. I lost the scan, but I know Silver has it. I'm just going to steal from him, though I take no credit for the following scans. This will force Cable and Psylocke to constantly using telekinesis against the snow in order to prevent their team from being buried. This should also prevent any telepathic, technopathic, or telekinetic attack on my team. While Emma might be distracted for only a couple seconds, it'll buy us enough time. I'd also like to point out that Vader can switch between Force powers at an impressive speed.

Okay, so here's the problem with your strategy. As soon as Vader starts messing around with the ground, Psylocke does this:

So my team is now airborne, free of both Vader's attempts at distraction and attacks via throwing pieces of the ground. This allows Emma to cast her illusion unhindered and Cable to employ his Technopathy. Wolverine can also be fastball special-ed effectively from this position, once they get within range of your characters. Once technopathy is employed, your team has little chance of survival. Vader will be the first to go down, followed by Grevious, and then Maul's legs will be disabled and Wolverine will be launched at him. Wolvie has the speed, skill, and Murmamasa blade necessary to take down an immobile Maul, and Psylocke can help him with her TK by restraining Maul's arms.

At the same time Vader is forcing an avalanche on them, Boba will whip out his mini-concussion rocket launcher and fire at that general direction. Then he will toss his sniper to Durge, and fly at full speed towards Monet. Now Monet does indeed have Boba outclassed in almost every aspect. However, Boba does have one trump card. His sonic detonator. He will charge towards Monet in flight with his sonic detonator activated. This should be enough to incapacitate her. Since she's virtually invulnerable, Boba will take a stunt dart agent and stab it in her ear or down her throat.

Boba should be incapacitated by Emma's illusion, but even if he's not it won't matter. First of all, Monet flies at Mach 1 in this tourney, which is over 1000 feet per second. So by the time Boba launches his rocket and tosses Durge the rifle, M will be right on top of him. She's fast enough to get some good shots in and strong enough to do some damage, especially to his equipment like his jetpack. But even if he does get airborne, it won't matter. Like you said, she can tank most of his weapons. However, she also has TP. So when he goes for his sonic detonator, she'll know it's coming. And again, she can fly at Mach 1, or the speed of sound. So the sonic wave can't catch up to her. In the scan it doesn't look to have a blast radius of more than about 10 feet, so once he's used it she can be on him again in an instant. Add to this Cable's technopathy and Psylocke's TK, and it's bad news for Boba.

Meanwhile the mini-concussion rocket will be on it's way towards your team. I'd estimate it'd take 2-5 seconds to reach your team. Monet is incapacitated, Emma is distracted from using telepathy at the moment. Cable and Psylocke are occupied. You only have one guy who's free to do something about that: Wolverine. Either he tanks it, or your entire team is down, with just Wolverine left to deal with my team. So, assuming he take one for the team, Wolverine is also down. Another distraction that will prevent Emma from using telepathy. Not only is an explosion is loud, big, and spectacular, but she'd also feel at least some concern for Wolverine.

None of this really matters since my team won't be there anymore, but thanks to my perk I have automatic lasers that would shoot the rocket down, anyway.

While this phenomenal explosion is going off, Durge will use Boba's sniper to take Emma out. He's a very good shot. The guy sees everything in slow motion. Durge should be able to snipe Emma Frost and take her out pretty quickly. From there, Boba will fly to the flag, grab it, fly up, and drop his sonic detonator down. This will incapacitate Cable and Psylocke, causing the avalanche to bury them. We win.

Emma's illusion will still be intact, so Durge won't be shooting at all, and even if he was Psylocke could move Emma or Wolverine or Monet could tank the shot for her. Plus, in the event that Emma is unable to keep her illusion up, she'll go Diamond Form for protection, since she's more useful with superhuman strength and durability if she can't use her TP.

So in conclusion, Psylocke is able to counteract your distractions, which allows Cable's technopathy to dominate most of your team members. Add to this Monet's blitz and Emma's illusion, plus Wolverine for good measure, and my team has this in spades.

@Fetts: @Esquire Wow its been awhile I nearly forgot. Are you 2 done yet?

@CadenceV2 said:

@Fetts: @Esquire Wow its been awhile I nearly forgot. Are you 2 done yet?

I suppose I'm ready for voting, if Fetts is.

@CadenceV2 said:

@Fetts: @Esquire Wow its been awhile I nearly forgot. Are you 2 done yet?

I suppose I'm ready for voting, if Fetts is.

@Fetts said:

Alrighy then. The very first thing Vader will do is elevate the ground beneath Cable's and Psylocke's feet. Because of this, Cable won't be able to concentrate on using his technopathy and neither Cable or Psylocke would be able to concentrate on using telepathy and telekinesis. Cable isn't using his technopathy first thing in your strategy, so my team is all set there. I was hoping that you wouldn't use his technopathy as the very first part of your strategy. Otherwise we'd be having a pretty large debate over who has the faster draw. So I'm glad we have that settled. Then there's Emma's illusion. Vader will use the snow on the ground to punch her in the face, ending her concentration on her telepathy, and thus ending the illusion. Note that Vader will do this immediately after Cable and Psylocke are punched by the ground. This will be then followed by a constant pouring of an avalanche. I lost the scan, but I know Silver has it. I'm just going to steal from him, though I take no credit for the following scans. This will force Cable and Psylocke to constantly using telekinesis against the snow in order to prevent their team from being buried. This should also prevent any telepathic, technopathic, or telekinetic attack on my team. While Emma might be distracted for only a couple seconds, it'll buy us enough time. I'd also like to point out that Vader can switch between Force powers at an impressive speed.

Okay, so here's the problem with your strategy. As soon as Vader starts messing around with the ground, Psylocke does this:

So my team is now airborne, free of both Vader's attempts at distraction and attacks via throwing pieces of the ground. This allows Emma to cast her illusion unhindered and Cable to employ his Technopathy. Wolverine can also be fastball special-ed effectively from this position, once they get within range of your characters. Once technopathy is employed, your team has little chance of survival. Vader will be the first to go down, followed by Grevious, and then Maul's legs will be disabled and Wolverine will be launched at him. Wolvie has the speed, skill, and Murmamasa blade necessary to take down an immobile Maul, and Psylocke can help him with her TK by restraining Maul's arms.

At the same time Vader is forcing an avalanche on them, Boba will whip out his mini-concussion rocket launcher and fire at that general direction. Then he will toss his sniper to Durge, and fly at full speed towards Monet. Now Monet does indeed have Boba outclassed in almost every aspect. However, Boba does have one trump card. His sonic detonator. He will charge towards Monet in flight with his sonic detonator activated. This should be enough to incapacitate her. Since she's virtually invulnerable, Boba will take a stunt dart agent and stab it in her ear or down her throat.

Boba should be incapacitated by Emma's illusion, but even if he's not it won't matter. First of all, Monet flies at Mach 1 in this tourney, which is over 1000 feet per second. So by the time Boba launches his rocket and tosses Durge the rifle, M will be right on top of him. She's fast enough to get some good shots in and strong enough to do some damage, especially to his equipment like his jetpack. But even if he does get airborne, it won't matter. Like you said, she can tank most of his weapons. However, she also has TP. So when he goes for his sonic detonator, she'll know it's coming. And again, she can fly at Mach 1, or the speed of sound. So the sonic wave can't catch up to her. In the scan it doesn't look to have a blast radius of more than about 10 feet, so once he's used it she can be on him again in an instant. Add to this Cable's technopathy and Psylocke's TK, and it's bad news for Boba.

Meanwhile the mini-concussion rocket will be on it's way towards your team. I'd estimate it'd take 2-5 seconds to reach your team. Monet is incapacitated, Emma is distracted from using telepathy at the moment. Cable and Psylocke are occupied. You only have one guy who's free to do something about that: Wolverine. Either he tanks it, or your entire team is down, with just Wolverine left to deal with my team. So, assuming he take one for the team, Wolverine is also down. Another distraction that will prevent Emma from using telepathy. Not only is an explosion is loud, big, and spectacular, but she'd also feel at least some concern for Wolverine.

None of this really matters since my team won't be there anymore, but thanks to my perk I have automatic lasers that would shoot the rocket down, anyway.

While this phenomenal explosion is going off, Durge will use Boba's sniper to take Emma out. He's a very good shot. The guy sees everything in slow motion. Durge should be able to snipe Emma Frost and take her out pretty quickly. From there, Boba will fly to the flag, grab it, fly up, and drop his sonic detonator down. This will incapacitate Cable and Psylocke, causing the avalanche to bury them. We win.

Emma's illusion will still be intact, so Durge won't be shooting at all, and even if he was Psylocke could move Emma or Wolverine or Monet could tank the shot for her. Plus, in the event that Emma is unable to keep her illusion up, she'll go Diamond Form for protection, since she's more useful with superhuman strength and durability if she can't use her TP.

So in conclusion, Psylocke is able to counteract your distractions, which allows Cable's technopathy to dominate most of your team members. Add to this Monet's blitz and Emma's illusion, plus Wolverine for good measure, and my team has this in spades.

OPEN for VOTES!!!!!

@beatboks1 @Sherlock @nickzambuto @Floopay @Young_Justice @Mr_Ingenuity

Votes if ya can :)

@CadenceV2 said:

OPEN for VOTES!!!!!

@beatboks1 @Sherlock @nickzambuto @Floopay @Young_Justice @Mr_Ingenuity

Votes if ya can :)

Y'all always get my username wrong. Anywho, I vote Esquire.

1 to 1 !!!

Dang, totally forgot about this one. I think my team could win in a fight, but if I could vote I'd give it to Fetts here. I could rebut or counter many of his points, but I, well, didn't. So in the event of a tie, I think he should move on.

Winner Fetts