DO NOT GET WORLD BREAKER HULK CONFUSED WITH WORLD WAR HULK! WORLD BREAKER IS A MORE POWERFUL INCARNATION THAN WORLD WAR
no prep, Silver surfer does NOT have any help from Galactus, both at their full potential, who would win? (btw both Bloodlust)
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DO NOT GET WORLD BREAKER HULK CONFUSED WITH WORLD WAR HULK! WORLD BREAKER IS A MORE POWERFUL INCARNATION THAN WORLD WAR
no prep, Silver surfer does NOT have any help from Galactus, both at their full potential, who would win? (btw both Bloodlust)
@TheAcidSkull: i think so but silver surfer was beating Thor's ass for a bit and as much as i hate to admit it; Thor is more powerful the WB hulk so quite a difficult one.
We will never know the extent of World Breakers abilities since he can't even walk without tearing the world apart. That said, SS doesn't need to get anywhere close to Hulk and Hulk is very limited when it comes to ranged fighting. So I'd say Hulk could kill the Surfer if he got his hands on him, but that would require CIS on Norin's end.
@The_Peter_Cosmic said:
We will never know the extent of World Breakers abilities since he can't even walk without tearing the world apart. That said, SS doesn't need to get anywhere close to Hulk and Hulk is very limited when it comes to ranged fighting. So I'd say Hulk could kill the Surfer if he got his hands on him, but that would require CIS on Norin's end.
Couldn't agree more. As much as I love Hulk, he will always be defeated by SS, unless he gets his hands on him.
@samuel_larson_10: he hasn't got that much power straight away, he would have to take a while to make that sort of power and by then hulk would of already got his hands on him. I don't think he can just shoot that much power from nothing.
look,im a huge hulk fan but going against surfer wouldn't be good for big green.he could suck the gamma radiation out of him,create a black hole,just go intangable and start blasting him.it just wouldn't be good
@god_spawn said:
Surfer again and again and again. Always has, always will. Surfer is just a bad opponent for any Hulk to be put up against cause they lose.
@Hulk_inside said:
@samuel_larson_10: he hasn't got that much power straight away, he would have to take a while to make that sort of power and by then hulk would of already got his hands on him. I don't think he can just shoot that much power from nothing.
False. Surfer can and has released that much energy easily without no build up. He did it against Ravenous just to teach him a lesson.
@The_Peter_Cosmic said:
We will never know the extent of World Breakers abilities since he can't even walk without tearing the world apart. That said, SS doesn't need to get anywhere close to Hulk and Hulk is very limited when it comes to ranged fighting. So I'd say Hulk could kill the Surfer if he got his hands on him, but that would require CIS on Norin's end.
Exactly
@god_spawn said:
@Hulk_inside said:
@samuel_larson_10: he hasn't got that much power straight away, he would have to take a while to make that sort of power and by then hulk would of already got his hands on him. I don't think he can just shoot that much power from nothing.
False. Surfer can and has released that much energy easily without no build up. He did it against Ravenous just to teach him a lesson.
This.
Norrin wins against pretty much any version of the Hulk.
@TheAcidSkull: i usually agree with you bud but not on this one.surfer has to wide of a power set and as powerful as world breaker is,surfer can just go intangible and drain him of gamma radiation.
@god_spawn said:
Surfer again and again and again. Always has, always will. Surfer is just a bad opponent for any Hulk to be put up against cause they lose.
In physical fight, Hulk should wins.
But in realistic situation, Surfer can use so many other powers, he definitely wins.
@god_spawn said:
Surfer again and again and again. Always has, always will. Surfer is just a bad opponent for any Hulk to be put up against cause they lose.
@_slim_ said:
Surfer.
If we are talking about a battle written for a comic book, then probably Hulk.
If we are talking an honest appraisal of each character's power set, CIS/PIS off, both combatants going all out? Silver Surfer wins and twice on Sunday. Surfer is way too fast for Hulk to realistically deal with.
This is spite. Hulk really has no chance with surfer. Please stop making pointless threads with Surfer as if he's some run of the mill super hero.
Silver Surfer, by any of the following methods:
1 - Throws him into space, win via BFR
2 - Drain gamma radiation from him
3 - Uses planet busting blasts against him
4 - Lets Hulk use his planet busting power, roast the planet, and then defeat himself because now Hulk is floating in space and worthless
5 - Can't Silver Surfer BFR people to the Astral Plane?
6 - Surfer gives him a hug, calming him back into Bruce Banner state
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@TheAcidSkull said:
@beyonder2012: it's cool man, we can't always agree, but silver surfer can't really drain this particular hulk because he was generating so much gamma energy that that he nearly around him, that even armaggedon could not channel , and he has defeated the silver surfer by using the power cosmic against him , so i still give this to WBHULK
When has Hulk ever defeated the Silver Surfer by using the PC against him? Hulk couldn't even defeat a weakened SS on Planet Hulk if not for the Warbound. Surfer on his death bed also had no problem manipulating the Big Crunch which killed both Aegis and Tenebrous so I fail to see any reason he can't manipulate or drain the energy from Hulk other than a weak explanation of "he just can't cause there was so much".
Makes me sad as a Hulk fan, he's in an awkward power area where he either seems to stomp a win on this site or the much more frequently get stomped in a loss. In this case, I believe it is the latter, I don't see how if Surfer is truely fighting Hulk, going all out, how Hulk would ever even lay a hand on him. Surfer takes it.
@TheAcidSkull said:
world breaker hulk wins this, i he is var to powerful and strong besides he emits ton;s of gamma energy, and more importantly he can absorb radiation
None of the reasons you gave are sufficient for the Hulk to win.
Unless this is purely physical, SS definitely wins.
@TheAcidSkull:
i never said he did, i said armaggedon defeated silver surfer by using PC against him , the only thing i can say is that neither armaggedon was able to completely drain WBH energy even though he was getting stronger as the hulk got mad since he was channeling his power, and rulk couldn't drain world war hulk ( not that rulk is anywhere near silver surfer) , thats all i've got
IIRC he defeated Silver Surfer and Hulk was like 15+ years ago, correct? If so, then I find it useless as Surfer has only gotten much stronger since then. From the looks of the scans you presented this guy wasn't draining Hulk, he was using Hulk's own power against him and Hulk's body naturally absorbs his gamma rays. It's like stealing solar energy from the sun then shooting it right back. Surfer's already manipulated an energy source when he could hardly stand that killed 2 Galactus level beings.
And Rulk is no Silver Surfer as far as energy manipulating draining goes so it really is pointless. Hulk is very rudimentary in manipulating his own energy and pales in comparison to Surfer's manipulative abilities. so I find saying SS can't drain Hulk or manipulate his energy away from him to be ridiculous.
But I'll say SS can't for debate purposes. Surfer tends to fight ranged, he isn't coming in close for Hulk all that often. So how is Hulk going to catch him exactly? Thunderclap? Leap at an opponent that is marginally faster in pretty much all forms of speed, travel and reflex? And on that ranged notion, Surfer can casually blow up planets. He did it to Ravenous just to teach him a lesson while when Worldbreaker Hulk did it he had to combine the attack with Red-She Hulk. Whether Hulk can or can't blow up planets by himself is irrelevant (though I believe he can) it was a dual feat. Surfer did this on his own and did so just to prove a point.
Hulk would have died after that attack with Red-She Hulk if I'm not mistaken and they only survived due to someone's wish. So Hulk is in no way durable enough to withstand multiple blasts from the Silver Surfer without being KO'd let alone killed if Surfer is bloodlusted.
As for the rest of the response regarding Planet Hulk, they were all hampered due to the disks with Surfer the most. However, even cheap shotting him at first, Hulk didn't react when he was in deadlock with Surfer and then Surfer was prepared to attack him again but Hulk was knocked back some distance with Surfer saying "good bye" then Hulk told the Warbound to shut up and get at it. The Warbound provided a distraction then Hulk caught Surfer flatfooted and then proceeded to pound on him breaking the obedience disk and Surfer got up almost immediately afterwards and freed everyone. In that fight Surfer could have killed Hulk at his own game in physical strength if not for the Warbound.
@TheAcidSkull: Depends on the Hulk. Surfer vs Savage Hulk, Surfer has already shown he can block Hulk's punches in midair with out much difficulty or so it seemed. Base Surfer against WB Hulk, I would agree with you. But Surfer is also able to increase his strength to incalcuable levels via power cosmic so theoretically he can just keep matching Hulk at will. I say theoretically cause I can't recall an instance where he really needed to do it since he fights with mostly energy projection.
And thank you. I'll admit I learn a bit more and respect Hulk a bit more from you. I hope I did the same thing for you and Norrin.
God. Spawn to be honest I'm going for bulk in this 1 but in the marvel universe it was ridicule how they killed surfer and galactus i just wanted to have evidence that hulk beat surfer even in another universe
SS wins. He's way too powerful for a lot of characters on this site. Usually you have to be herald level or Skyfather to beat him.
@Spiderman22 said:
God. Spawn to be honest I'm going for bulk in this 1 but in the marvel universe it was ridicule how they killed surfer and galactus i just wanted to have evidence that hulk beat surfer even in another universe
Then make a case for Hulk using actual evidence. Other universal stuff has no merit so even mentioning it is useless. I can't think of anything short of Surfer standing there with his shiny little fists up that Hulk would beat him.
@god_spawn: use seem to know your stuff.this doesn't pertain to this thread but i have a question.if surfer was to fight flash is it possible for surfer to drain the energy from the speed force??if so would he than be able to use the speed force??
@ChaoticSuperman said:
Silver Surfer wins. Honestly Hulk loses and will always lose.
This pretty much sums up this thread.
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