The Three Sannin vs Itachi, Kakashi, and Sasuke

Rules and Conditions

• As usual with my threads involving Itachi, he's completely healthy, so his stamina is to be considered as average Jonin level. (Damn you Kishimoto! Making Itachi deathly ill)
• Sasuke is at the peak of using his Mangekyou Sharingan (So Danzo fight basically)
• Kakashi is 4th Shinobi War (Pre-Kaguya)
• Orochimaru is as he was up until his "sealing" at the hands of Itachi. However he's completely healthy and has his arms/jutsu.
• Tsunade is 4th Shinobi War (Pre-Kaguya)
• Tsukuyomi can only be used once (Otherwise people could claim Itachi solostomps)
• Combatants are given full knowledge on their opponents
• Combatants are all in-character but have no hesitations with killing any of their opponents, as well as knowing that killing the entire enemy team is the only way to return home
• Victory by total annihilation

Arena

• No preparation time is given except for the time it takes for the teams to find each other. This is entirely based on how you think each team will move, given the circumstances
• Teams are given general location information for their opponents, but nothing more specific is given. However techniques that sense or otherwise reveal the location of their opponents CAN be used.
• Team 1 starts to the far west (left) 2 KM away from the body of water, Team 2 starts adjacent to the tree on the east.

Optional Soundtrack Team 1

Optional Soundtrack Team 2

Sorry about the double tags everyone! I made the thread in the wrong place. ^_^'''' Long day!

@mudamudamuda@hulkage@thevivas@princearagorn1@slimj87d@etheral_dreams

Probably Sannin. We already know Jiraiya > Itachi, and personally I think Kakashi is the weakest here.

@saint_of_origin: No problem, but you know you could've just edited the post (full edit option).

Anyway, siding with team 2. Tsunade gets a Kamui, Jiraiya gets a Susanoo arrow. Orchimaru gets the totsuka blitz.

@mudamudamuda: ...Really? I REDID THE WHOLE THING D:

........#$!&^% noob mistakes >.<'''''

@saint_of_origin: Happens to the best of us lol

Sharingan team. Neither Jiraiya nor Tsunade really have speed fears to suggest they aren't getting blitzed by anyone here. Orochimaru won't get blitzed by Sasuke or Kakashi but Itachi already pretty much blitzed and sealed him. Even excluding that showing Itachi has already humbled Orochimaru with a Genjutsu so I don't see why he can't do it again. I'd also say Sasuke could take a majority over Orochimaru while him and Kakashi could go either way.

Anyway, siding with team 2. Tsunade gets a Kamui, Jiraiya gets a Susanoo arrow. Orchimaru gets the totsuka blitz.

With full knowledge, I doubt. Itachi admitted that Jiraya is out of his league, he could even take on multiple bodies of Pain and Nagato confessed that if Jiraya had previous knowledge, he would've no problems against him. An Susanoo arrow isn't stopping Tsunade, she was pierced many times by the Susanoo swords from Madara and kept fighting without problems. Orochimaru knows the seals of the Edo Tensei and could summon them from nothing, also, he have the biggest hax here, its almost impossible to keep him down and with previous knowledge, he won't fall against the totsuka again, we've no proof that Itachi is faster than him either, he could easily keep up with Kyuubi 4-tailed. With the summonings, they can distract Kakashi, he always needed time to cast his Kamui, he couldn't just "behead" anyone without some time concentrating, and against people with tons of jutsus that can cover a huge area, he wouldn't have peace to do that, and after a few failed attempts, he would fade thanks to his extremely low chakra reserves (Before mentioning how many times he used the kamui during the war, keep in mind that he was always receiving chakra and replenishing his reserves thanks to Sakura and Naruto). That being said, the fight can be decided on wether they will develop a counter to the Izanami or not, which is debatable.

Orochimaru is a very tricky character to debate. We honestly don't know what he is capable of at full power as he:

1. Divided portions of his chakra into all his students' curse seals.

2. Was never in a ideal host body.

3. Lost his arms early on.

We can really only speculate how powerful he was/is at peak levels. The same can be said for Itachi as well.

If Ororchimaru doesn't start off with Edo Tensei and Jiraiya start off with Sage mode then team 2 wins. However. If ororchimaru does start off with Edo Tensei or does get it off then team 1 wins. Tsunade is the weakness link here outside of her regeneration power.

Itachi could probably solo. (Not even joking).

Team 2.

Pretty sure I already countered all of this when I said that Sasuke is going to Susanoo snipe Jiraiya, Itachi totsuka seal Orochimaru and Kakashi Kamui Tsunade.

I'd like to add that that statement about Jiraiya is doubious at best and should not be taken into account, and that Orochimaru needs sacrifices for the edo.

Due to the rules provided by OP I agree.

With previous knowledge is highly unlikely that they will be dumb enough to fall for this, Jiraya (And to be fair, Kakashi) is known for using bunshins in his fights and kawamiri no jutsu a lot, knowing the range and power of those techniques, I really doubt that he would fall for this that easily. Itachi didn't speedblitzed Orochimaru, Orochimaru was inside of Sasuke and didn't knew that the sword could seal him, he didn't needed to dodge until it was too late, here its another story, they all know about the Totsuka Sword and the Mirror, and they wouldn't fall for this. Again, the Kamui needs time to activate, if it was instantaneous, Kakashi would just head-snipe everyone, and wouldn't have problems against opponents that have wide-range techniques. With Jiraya and Orochimaru here, he wouldn't even be able to hide. The snakes, frogs and Katsuyu are just a bonus, they can be used to keep Kakashi busy (They are FAR from being fodder to him, the frogs in special have a huge arsenal of fire and water jutsus of insanely wide range). Orochimaru also doesn't need to use the sacrifices at the time, he have a lot of bodies and ninjas at his disposal, and he instantly summoned the Kages without needing to sacrifice someone in the middle of the fight. With Kakashi out, we must consider that Tsunade had enough strenght to rip through Madara's Susanoo, which is confirmed to be way more durable than Sasuke's one. If we go by 1-HitKill moves, then you should mention some jutsus in Orochimaru's arsenal. If Jiraya close the gap with anyone of them, he have at least 3 BFR jutsus that he can use without prepping.

Kakashi and Tsunade both die because they suck.

Lord Jiriaya is MVP.

Here's his plan.

Step 1. Run like hell.

Step 2. Enter Honored Sage Mode.

Step 3. Solo.

@keehn93 said:

Lord Jiriaya is MVP.

Here's his plan.

Step 1. Run like hell.

I see your logic. Not even Itachi is blitzing him at that speed.

MS Team stomps

Sharingan Team rapes MS Sasuke > Orochimaru = Jiraiya. Prime Itachi is around Prime Nagato level as well with hax non of the Sannin can combat, plus Kakashi Kamui spam = overkill. Orochimaru needs Edo Tensei for this.

@nishi99: Orochimaru was weak and about to die and couldn't use any jutsu. He's nowhere near Nagato I could make a case for Nagato beating him 10/10. Kakashi will not spam Kamui

@kgb725: True Orochimaru was weak and about to die, but he was still able to use his Living Corpse Reincarnation jutsu on Sasuke and it didn't faze Sasuke. This Sasuke is way stronger then that Sasuke and with better battle experience. Now with Nagato, the guy's a beast, but Itachi sealed him in no time and saved Bijuu Mode Naruto and Killer B at the same time, all those guys are leagues above the Sannin. Plus one of the Sannin is fodder, so it's up to Jiraiya and Orochimaru to do the work.

@nishi99: Getting sealed isn't equivalent to getting beaten. He only saved them because he was about to take their souls and was blindsided and busy. Tsunade isn't fodder in a real battle they don't have the power to kill her and she could heal the team of all injuries

@nishi99: Kakashi is fodder.

@kgb725: You're right, getting sealed in a eternal illusion is worse and would do you mean they can't kill Tsunade? I agree she could help heal then though, if she doesn't get one shotted first.

@jthree47693: Kamui is a pain in the ass last time i checked, just ask Obito.

Going with sannin

Orochimaru can summon edo? Hashi and Tobi will cause more than enough trouble

Sage mode Jaraiya handled his own against six paths, so nobody is really blitzing him.Itachi ran from jaraiya telling kisame that not even them together with a squad would change the difficulty of fighting jiraiya. That should be noted. Now we have jiraiya and sannin? makes it even tougher.

Tsunade is good at what she does. Can heal anybody who possibly gets injured. She can break through itachi or sasuke susanno.

Kakashi defeats himself by running out of chakra/stamina defending himself as usual.

@nishi99: Madara couldn't even one shot her and we all know Madara >team 1. Itachi couldn't seal Nagato in a 1 on 1 and couldn't do any lasting damage to him at all. itachi did a surprise attack with infinite jutsu which he wouldn't even pull out in a normal fight

@keehn93:I agree you could make a case for Current Orochimaru based on hype, but not feats. Sick Itachi stated him and Jiriaya would both die, not that he would lose and you say Itachi had no intel on Sage Mode, but same could be said about Sword of Totsuka and Izanami. Plus when that statement was made Kishimoto didn't even come up with their powers yet, based on feats it's not even relevant anymore. Pain's statement was in admiration, we know after Pain's fight with Naruto that Pain could have easily beat his master via Chibaku Tensei or Shinra Tensei if he didn't underestimate him.

@kgb725: Madara casually beat the 5 Kages, she was left for dead until Orochimaru's gang saved her. Itachi's got prep here as well so he will start with the Sword to seal them. 1 on 1 Itachi would just seal Nagato again, Naruto and B didn't do anything in that fight, but get saved.

Itachi solos

The only Sanin level in the Sharingan group is Itachi. Everyone else is fodder.

Orochimaru > Sasuke

Tsunade > Kakashi

And I'm pretty sure that Sage Mode Jiraya > Itachi.

@keehn93: Healthy Itachi is basically Edo Itachi, so no hype here and remember a stronger Sage Mode didn't help Naruto with MS Sasuke in the ova, Prime Itachi is above that Sasuke. Jiriaya may have experience, but so does Itachi and Itachi's a genius on top of that, with better hax. Susanoo and Yata Mirror will stop any physical attack Jiriaya's got. Even if Jiriaya stats with the Toad Genjutsu their's no grantee the toads can stop a genjutsu like Izanami, takes them a few seconds to cast it as well, so they can likely be killed in that time. As for Chibaku Tensei remember Gamabunta got one shotted by a casual Shinra Tensei, Chibaku Tensei required the Kyuubi to break Naruto out.

I think with everything prepped the uchiha squad would lose. Simply j man has the hax and could potentially 1 shot with frog song, his summons etc. But without that prepped it could go either way. Depends on the move order here

@nishi99: Too bad he damn near kills over after using it once.

@jthree47693: He used it two times in the Pain arc and way more in the War arc.

Good points, but I must bring up a few issues.

1. Oro can't summon Hashi/Tobi because their souls were sealed by RDS. They were only summonable when Sasuke revived Oro from Kabuto. And at this point, we're after they were sealed, but before they were freed.

2. That statement from Itachi does not have a good chance at all of being accurate. So many reasons can be given as to why it's not true. Itachi lying, Itachi being sick, etc.

3. She needed help to break through Susano'o IIRC

4. You're treating Kakashi like he's Pre-Shippuden Naruto. He's not going to run off blasting off high level Jutsu, purposely exhausting himself.

I think you need to reanalyze the situation a bit. Just my two cents.

@nishi99: The war arc was full of bullshit and pis. Kakashi died after using it twice. He's a garbage character, so he dies. Yes I'm being biased because I hate Kakashi.

@jthree47693: No worries. The most popular characters tend to have the most vocal group of haters. Not anything new.

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Team 1 loses, either by getting genjutsu'd or kamui'd. Or both. And yes, Kakashi is more than capable of hanging with the Sannin by the time of the 4th Ninja War.

@jthree47693: Understandable, King of Lightning did a good video about him, but i can't ignore the facts because Kakashi is a shit sensei.

@omnicrono: I don't hate Kakashi because he's popular. Honestly I never cared enough about Kakashi to hate him until that bullshit perfect susanoo crap. Just...fuck Kakashi.

@jthree47693: Sure, if you say so. It isn't even that version of Kakashi being used here.

Watch the language, please.

@nishi99: No He wouldn't because that would not be his go to move and that move would not work

@kgb725: Why would he not with full knowledge given?

@nishi99: Because the way they spoke to each other as edos indicates they have a friendly type of relationship which he already could know and Nagato would know everything about Itachi as well