Current versions of both
They have information on each other's abilities
1 day of prep
Takes place in the Sahara desert
No BFR
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Current versions of both
They have information on each other's abilities
1 day of prep
Takes place in the Sahara desert
No BFR
No outside interference
@nickzambuto: He actually can. The only threats are the Monster Trio. Naruto isn't a basic ninja with no experience. They wouldn't know how to fight Naruto first off.
Second, Naruto has so much in his damn arsenal. The Straw Hats are basically fighting a one man army.
Third Naruto has prep. Again He's smarter, and more versatile than the Straw Hats plus he has knowledge of their abilities. Besides Robin the Straw Hats abilities aren't complicated to deal with. Robins DF could easily be countered anyway.
@nickzambuto: He actually can. The only threats are the Monster Trio. Naruto isn't a basic ninja with no experience. They wouldn't know how to fight Naruto first off.
Second, Naruto has so much in his damn arsenal. The Straw Hats are basically fighting a one man army.
What does that even mean? None of the Straw Hats are basic pirates either.
@nickzambuto: read the “third” in my edit and you'll get half of what im saying.
The Straw Hats have never faced anything like Naruto. The Straw Hats have nothing besides Robin that'll make Naruto think.
@nickzambuto: Hmm... let's see...
Tajiu Kage Bunshin no Jutsu + Giant Rasengan + Sage of Six Paths transformation should do the trick.
The scary thing is, all of those clones can fly too. And that's not the only way Naruto can dispatch the Strawhats.
Naruto in base mode/the mode where he soloed the godtree could prolly pull a win just by using lava release: rasenshuriken and if he goes into body of so6p's mode he stomps without any effort.
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Well how powerful are they? I hear there like island level or a bit more? If thats the case than naruto would stomp them.
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
He does tho.
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Well how powerful are they? I hear there like island level or a bit more? If thats the case than naruto would stomp them.
Destructive power is just one thing, I know for sure Luffy is a heckuva lot stronger than Naruto and I think he's faster too. I don't watch too much Naruto, but all I know is that there are debates still going on about Naruto vs Luffy, so if that is an even fight then how can Naruto solo the whole crew?
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Well how powerful are they? I hear there like island level or a bit more? If thats the case than naruto would stomp them.
Destructive power is just one thing, I know for sure Luffy is a heckuva lot stronger than Naruto and I think he's faster too. I don't watch too much Naruto, but all I know is that there are debates still going on about Naruto vs Luffy, so if that is an even fight then how can Naruto solo the whole crew?
Current Naruto is massively hypersonic and should be multi-continent level+.
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Well how powerful are they? I hear there like island level or a bit more? If thats the case than naruto would stomp them.
Destructive power is just one thing, I know for sure Luffy is a heckuva lot stronger than Naruto and I think he's faster too. I don't watch too much Naruto, but all I know is that there are debates still going on about Naruto vs Luffy, so if that is an even fight then how can Naruto solo the whole crew?
Current Naruto is massively hypersonic and should be continent level+.
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Well how powerful are they? I hear there like island level or a bit more? If thats the case than naruto would stomp them.
Destructive power is just one thing, I know for sure Luffy is a heckuva lot stronger than Naruto and I think he's faster too. I don't watch too much Naruto, but all I know is that there are debates still going on about Naruto vs Luffy, so if that is an even fight then how can Naruto solo the whole crew?
The only Lufffy vs Naruto one being debated is the one where Naruto is basically robbed of 90% of his current power.
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Well how powerful are they? I hear there like island level or a bit more? If thats the case than naruto would stomp them.
Destructive power is just one thing, I know for sure Luffy is a heckuva lot stronger than Naruto and I think he's faster too. I don't watch too much Naruto, but all I know is that there are debates still going on about Naruto vs Luffy, so if that is an even fight then how can Naruto solo the whole crew?
The only Lufffy vs Naruto one being debated is the one where Naruto is basically robbed of 90% of his current power.
@linsanel_doctor: that will do nothing
@jashro44: They're Mountain level (by valid feats) at best.. only afew are (like Whitebeard) are Island level.
Not sure if this is true but if it is Naruto should be way beyond them.
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Well how powerful are they? I hear there like island level or a bit more? If thats the case than naruto would stomp them.
Destructive power is just one thing, I know for sure Luffy is a heckuva lot stronger than Naruto and I think he's faster too. I don't watch too much Naruto, but all I know is that there are debates still going on about Naruto vs Luffy, so if that is an even fight then how can Naruto solo the whole crew?
Well there are still flash vs hulk and flash vs superman debates to this day and that doesn't make it any less one sided.
Assuming there mountain level Narutos destructive power would far exceed that. Madara used Chibaku Tensei to create giant rocks which dwarfed mountains. They were so big that when sasuke cut one in half the chunk was dwarfing mountains. Naruto managed to blow one of these rocks up with one of his bijuu Rasan shurikans with no effort whatsoever. And than there are his shadow clones:
And how fast are they exactly? Do they have the durability to tank attacks like this:
@dbvse7: You must be biased or something technically Naruto has never been simply at mountain level(your trying to word it as if being able to bust 1 mountain in one attack is Naruto's limit which is false) Naruto before he learned bijuu bomb in his stable bijuu mode avatar nine tails state he skip from possibly building level/ city block+ levels through the different rasengan variants he achieved at the time to multi mountain level(countering 5 bijuu dama) DC through feats also he could also parry mountain busting attacks before kakashi and Gai were killed( I could post scans or the episode but I'm on my phone) but this was before his most recent power up from the sage and even if to say theoretically his bijuu bombs never got any stronger since then it still would not matter because the simple fact that Naruto's bijuu dama=standard 5 bijuu dama also add to the equation he control 6 bijuu dama using 1 hand in his current state( math 5*6=30 mountain buster) and to top if off he's flys around performing many feats against the god of his verse without breaking a sweat.
In laymans terms he stomps
You guys can't seriously believe Naruto solos the entire crew.
Yes. He does.
Naruto before his rikudo powerup would solo the strawhat crew alone. So how would His current form be any better?
@deathhero61: Okay, first off I agree but you will most likely get flamed hope you are prepared.
@nickzambuto: You do understand that Most Naruto vs Luffy matches have restrictions, and the only real argument for Luffy is Speed Strength and Haki. Which isn't a good argument to go by but people tend to REALLY over exaggerate and rely on to win that argument.
@deathhero61: Okay, first off I agree but you will most likely get flamed hope you are prepared.
Bring it. In fact i will do a cav on this if someone wants to. Its been awhile since i got one.
@vintage_spiderman: First off I'm never bias just realistic.
Second, why am I bias exactly?
@wdc: I hope don't offend you but current Naruto is ninja Jesus "BELIEVE IT" but I leave it at that I don't wanna have spoilers if your not up to date
@dbvse7: Just answer this can the strawhats individually destroy 1 mountain......actually you know what the hell could the combined effort of Strawhats destroy 1 mountain. If the answer is no to either one of these questions then they lose in a stomp because a past Naruto could counter an attack worth 5 mountain busters with 1 attack and this same character in his current incarnation can fly. Also what do you believe Naruto's durabilty is I mean killer bee tanked a standard bijuu dama(which is a mountain gone poof) and he isn't even in the same league as Naruto even before Naruto receive his new power up.
@deathhero61: You really should do the CAV I'd be entertaining as AF
Lets be honest here NaruJesus has more power than the staw hats can handle and he out numbers them by a huge margin and with 24 hours he can soak up an enormous amount of nature chakra giveing him even more power to work with
and oh he can fly the Straw hats are screwed 10 ways to sunday
@jashro44: Ugh, I don't know. Naruto feats are so weird and unclear, I can't even tell what's happening in those scans.
@vintage_spiderman: no one on the straw hats can destroy a mountain YET. What are you getting at here I'm not even saying te straw hats win or have a chance so why are you asking me these questions?
@dbvse7: I was testing you to see if you were a biased fanboy you passed see a biased individual would've said "Yea Luffy make mountain go boom with 1 gomu gomu no pistol stewpid Narodo he not even that powoahful" but you clearly aren't atleast from what I can tell carry on
@jashro44: Ugh, I don't know. Naruto feats are so weird and unclear, I can't even tell what's happening in those scans.
Well I should have explained specifically what each scan was trying to show and I see what you mean (I had a similar problem). I'll try to make it more clear:
Now heres the full scene, we see naruto throw a Bijuu Rasanshuriken and sasuke fly up with his susanoo. Narutos Bijuu Rsanshuriken blows up one of the huge rocks which would be larger than the chunk sasuke cut apart:
Now the reason I uploaded the last scan was to show naruto can throw more than one Bijuu rasen shurikan at a time (he can throw 6 at once):
Not sure if it helps but the point is naruto is massively beyond mountain level. And not only that but naruto can make a lot of shadow clones:
Does this make it more clear?
@jashro44: Thank you, I understand now. The thing is, characters in One Piece don't have crazy energy blast attacks, they rely on regular punches and kicks, so yeah I'm gonna have to say Naruto does hold an edge in damage output. Where the One Piece characters edge it out is in stats and skill; pre-timeskip, Luffy while poisoned, dehydrated, bleeding out, and struggling to stand was able to punch through Crocodile's Desert Spada attack (which is powerful enough to create massive chasms reaching miles through the Earth), then put Crocodile himself through several feet of solid bedrock and launch him high enough into the sky that his body could be seen all throughout the country, lifting and destroying several houses and rupturing an entire city block in the process.
Now this is base strength Luffy. CP9 members like Blueno were able to literally stand still and let base Luffy wail on them with no injury. However, in Gear Second, Luffy was strong enough to oneshot Blueno after softening him up some.
And then on top of that, Gear Second Luffy was unable to deal damage to Pacifistas, however after the timeskip he can oneshot them.
Can Naruto punch at this level? The video also shows Luffy dodging laser beams via precognition. In Gear Second, CP9 members couldn't dodge his punches because he was too fast, even though the weakest member could react to lightning (not dodge, just react). Can Naruto move that fast?
About the Straw Hats' ability to survive Naruto's blast, I believe they can. Gekko Moria split an island in half by punching it -- an island is much bigger than a mountain, and a punch is much more focused than an explosion. Luffy survived getting wailed on by Moria thanks to his rubber body, but when Zoro took in all of Luffy's damage and fatigue, he had to endure the hits straight up and managed to stay conscious.
, Luffy while poisoned, dehydrated, bleeding out, and struggling to stand was able to punch through Crocodile's Desert Spada attack (which is powerful enough to create massive chasms reaching miles through the Earth),
His body was covered in blood so his spada got negated when his fist went through.
Can Naruto punch at this level? The video also shows Luffy dodging laser beams via precognition. In Gear Second, CP9 members couldn't dodge his punches because he was too fast, even though the weakest member could react to lightning (not dodge, just react). Can Naruto move that fast?
About the Straw Hats' ability to survive Naruto's blast, I believe they can. Gekko Moria split an island in half by punching it -- an island is much bigger than a mountain, and a punch is much more focused than an explosion. Luffy survived getting wailed on by Moria thanks to his rubber body, but when Zoro took in all of Luffy's damage and fatigue, he had to endure the hits straight up and managed to stay conscious.
He should. I been thinking about this for awhile since @princearagorn1 brought it up.
A weaker version of naruto's kyuubi form was capable of doing this:
Weaker versions of kyuubi were capable of some amazing feats.
And they are not tanking mountain busters. I'm not going over this.
@deathhero61: His body was covered in blood so his spada got negated when his fist went through.
Wrong. The blood hardened Crocodile's sand so he was tangible, it did the exact opposite of what you're saying.
@nickzambuto: Devil fruits are not supposed to abide by physics.Thats why when luffy was wet he managed to hit crocodile. If he can do that, then punching through spada would be easy if his body was moist.
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